If you read up a bit, as i have been doing there are answers out there. watchers and fallen angels.
In the time before Noah. "god's angels" took a fancy to human women.
There was an exodus of about 200 angels. God was pretty pissed. So he cast them from heaven to walk their days among mortals.
This is the origin of all evil, these fallen angels have walked with man for millenia now. they are behing possessions, and evils, they are trying and succeeding in corrupting this world.
They occupy all the places of power, the rich list, the illuminati, govts, the vatican, you name it.
Their offspring are mentioned as nephilim, a race of giants.
These were all but wiped out in the great flood of noahs time.
The antichrist is among us, leading the way as a saviour of our time!
The US is not set up in christian beliefs it is founded in satanism.
Their end game is now!
Be afraid, be very afraid!

Kliesto....free will is given but while the free will

is given, God has left information(the Bible) about Himself, and

reveals Himself to us in many ways( look around us at his creation).

The reason Jesus is the Only way as the bible teaches, is because

there is no other way to come back to the Father except thru Jesus.

Other ways and other avenues can't reconnect us back with God.

Only thru Jesus are we reconnected back with the Father....

or in other words, brought back into relationship with God....

as it was in the beginning...before the fall.


Yes....you have been given free will to decide for

yourself...but also, because God has put a measure of faith

in each of us, God is more than able to eventually make Himself

KNOWN to us .


For instance....

God will start knocking on your hearts door, so to speak .

God will start drawing you.

God will send people in

your path...etc..etc...etc....

and finally one day as you hear and learn more of God,

it all becomes clear.


Everyone may not see the truth now..

but that doesn't mean people won't see it clearly tomorrow.


God is patient..and He knows when man is ready to believe and recieve Him.


I did not see the truth for years and years..then one day it became

clear.

Before, I was searching in other religions...etc...too.


Truth will become clear for you too, Kliesto.


You are already seeking...keep seeking and you shall

find.


God wants a willing heart..and that

willingness will come,

as the truth becomes clear.

How do you KNOW the Bible is God's word. Did God personally say this or did man?

There's a whole big world out there, universe even, and you're gonna tell me God's truth only resides in ONE place, in ONE book? Do you not see how this limits the unlimited??

I am seeking truth yes, but it's because I have sought it, that I don't believe in the Bible or religion at all anymore. Because I realized that it's simply not what it claims to be.

If the Bible was the literal truth, do you think we'd have access to it? Honest question.

I'm sure you understand how government works right? Any real truth is suppressed, dismissed, manipulated or even outright destroyed if it goes against their agendas, their goals. Why would the Bible be any different?

If the Bible as we know it now was actually the word of God, there is no way we would be seeing it. Because they wouldn't be able to control us how they want to then.

The reason it exists in the form it does, is because they allow it to, it serves a purpose for them. If it didn't, it wouldn't see the light of day I can assure you.

I understand your question...I had the same question once.

Like I said earlier, keep seeking....

NO ONE can tell you how or what to believe.

You have to find Truth out for yourself......

not because of what someone else is telling you .
...

Very true. Seek and ye shall find my friend.

Be afraid of what?

What should people be afraid of?

The coming of a righteous God?

Why would any righteous person need to fear the coming of a righteous God?

Only an unrighteous person would need to fear a righteous God. For it would be an oxymoron for a righteous person to have any reason to fear a righteous God.

I have no fear of the coming of any righteous God.

The only thing I would need to fear would be the coming of an unrighteous "God".

But an unrighteous "God" would be a demon.

So the reason I could possibly have to fear the "Christian God" would be if they worship a demon.

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I do think you're right though, most American "Christians" probably are worshiping and preaching satanism.

I see people portraying Jesus as a demon all the time.

They have Jesus condemning everyone, even perfectly righteous people. Clearly they have demonized even their Jesus.

Those "fallen angels" are what I call "aliens." They are entities from another dimension or world, but they have nothing to do with "God."

Unless the "God" people talk about in the Bible was just another alien posing and pretending to be God, which I think was probably the case.

But pretty much you have it right.

They are not our friends.

Being afraid will accomplish nothing.
In truth, we have something they want and can't have.
They have technology.
We have the creative spark. We just have to learn to use it.
They fear us.

in Christianity you generally get threaten in Trinity Format

you have the nice Christians that never mention hell or any of the bad things and preach peace and love and then out of the blue place curses on you by saying "may God bless you" so what if one responded back by saying "and may Satan and his legion also bless and watch over you"

you have the well educated Christians that say things like "throwing pearls to swine" or that you will pay for your lack of vision ....I think Darth Sidious said the same thing to Luke Skywalker while shooting force lightning up his apse

then you got the Christians that just go all Charles Bronson Death Wish on you, with threats that you will be tossed into the lake of fire, you will burn for all eternity, the reward for sin is death, flesh is sinful, eternal punishment ....it obvious they have a distain towards themselves and The Human Race..real party poopers unless of the course the party is during a witch burning ...then they're the life of the party

very true! Too funny funches!

always tickles me how alike humans are even in their differences

naysayers trying to repeat the same things over and over to convince themself of their infallible logic and superior intellect and reason

the faithful doing the same




humans,, what an amazing creation we are

naysayers are not repeating themselves to convince themselves. poppycock. lol

naysayers are trying to show that the bible belief system has contradictions and can't be possibly logical to believe and are showing that one should look at various sources and interests then to only follow one guideline (if you even call that) in ones lifetime.

Yes I find it sad that so many people live in their caves and don't go out more to really see the beauty of what many people found interesting then just resort to one book for all the answers.

for whomever that is true, I feel sorry for them as well

the world is big and wonderful and I have enjoyed , so far, all the experiences I have had 'outside' the book which have reinforced what I learned 'from' the book and those things which I have experienced which have been reinforced by the book

for me, and many like me, the bible IS one resource of many,,,contrary to popular belief

I have had to study other religions as a requirement of formal schooling , and it is still the bible which makes the most sense to me

a fairly intelligent, non delusional, and reasonable person,,,

I have no interest in any religion. For me, they are a thing of the past. I'm sure they have their purpose for others.

everyone doesnt get their thirst quenched from the same well,,,

maybe she has a point...every time I read a book I have to repeat myself that the characters in the book are not real and do not love me even though the book tells me so

I was reading a book about leperchauns ....but leperchauns have to be real or why else would the Chicago River be Green all year around ...

and why if leperchauns aren't real do they dye the Chicago River a darker green every Saint Patrick Day...you would think that one day out the of year they would at least try to dye it blue

is this proof that leperchauns exist and for those that claim that leperchauns don't exist...are they also considered to be naysayers?

the questions that will never have absolute answers, because of so many darn experiences and perceptions,,,sigh

which is why I only ask are those that don't believe in leperchauns be the term that you yourself used "naysayers"? ....

yes, if the discussion is about belief in leprechauns




now I see why there is such a difficult time communicating in these forums,, people seem to miss the context of what they are reading on times,,, and go for the broader , general, interpretations,,,

perhaps it's because of what you posted below....



It appears that perhaps your right typing hand doesn't pay attention to what your left typing hand is typing