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But that's not the Biblical story. How would you know? You have never read the Bible, so that's your bigotry and bias talking, not experience or knowledge. To tell someone that they have never read the Bible is clearly antagonistic and rude. There is no way you know what anyone else has read. |
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But that's not the Biblical story. How would you know? You have never read the Bible, so that's your bigotry and bias talking, not experience or knowledge. To tell someone that they have never read the Bible is clearly antagonistic and rude. There is no way you know what anyone else has read. I know James hasn't read the Bible, he's afraid of it. The Bible is a mirror and he doesn't want to look into it. |
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Ok Cowboy,you say you don't mind correction..... ok.....so yes..God created everything in existence..... but God and Jesus ( the WORD become flesh) and the Holy Spirit were all right there together in the VERY beginning...as ONE GOD Verses like the following teach me Jesus, God, and the Holy spirit are not one entity. ----------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. ----------------------- Why would it specifically state the three as separate entities if they are one? Why wouldn't it just say grace of God, love of God, and the communion of God? What would be the point in giving "God" our father separate names/beings when they are being referred to all at the same time? Three separate entities, all of them perfect. Their minds are perfect in every way, that means they have the same thoughts and desires. There is no conflict, jealousy, disagreements between them, they are always in perfect agreement. So you have three beings who act as one. Yes, they are each distinct, but they are each the same. Yes, true. They all work for the same goal, same purpose, with the same thought of mind. But that doesn't not mean they ARE ONE. That means the ARE AS ONE. Sorry if this is what you originally ment and I misunderstood. Just the baptists see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God our father as one being. Not separate entities that work in harmony as one. |
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But that's not the Biblical story. How would you know? You have never read the Bible, so that's your bigotry and bias talking, not experience or knowledge. To tell someone that they have never read the Bible is clearly antagonistic and rude. There is no way you know what anyone else has read. I know James hasn't read the Bible, he's afraid of it. The Bible is a mirror and he doesn't want to look into it. That's really funny. Truly. 
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Ok Cowboy,you say you don't mind correction..... ok.....so yes..God created everything in existence..... but God and Jesus ( the WORD become flesh) and the Holy Spirit were all right there together in the VERY beginning...as ONE GOD Verses like the following teach me Jesus, God, and the Holy spirit are not one entity. ----------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. ----------------------- Why would it specifically state the three as separate entities if they are one? Why wouldn't it just say grace of God, love of God, and the communion of God? What would be the point in giving "God" our father separate names/beings when they are being referred to all at the same time? Three separate entities, all of them perfect. Their minds are perfect in every way, that means they have the same thoughts and desires. There is no conflict, jealousy, disagreements between them, they are always in perfect agreement. So you have three beings who act as one. Yes, they are each distinct, but they are each the same. Yes, true. They all work for the same goal, same purpose, with the same thought of mind. But that doesn't not mean they ARE ONE. That means the ARE AS ONE. Sorry if this is what you originally ment and I misunderstood. Just the baptists see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God our father as one being. Not separate entities that work in harmony as one. I don't care how the Baptists see it. Jesus is just as much God as the father is. Jesus made himself subservient to the Father for reasons I don't understand, but they are both equally God. As I showed you in Isaiah 44:6, when they speak, they say "I", not "we" or "us". |
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Ok Cowboy,you say you don't mind correction..... ok.....so yes..God created everything in existence..... but God and Jesus ( the WORD become flesh) and the Holy Spirit were all right there together in the VERY beginning...as ONE GOD Verses like the following teach me Jesus, God, and the Holy spirit are not one entity. ----------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. ----------------------- Why would it specifically state the three as separate entities if they are one? Why wouldn't it just say grace of God, love of God, and the communion of God? What would be the point in giving "God" our father separate names/beings when they are being referred to all at the same time? Three separate entities, all of them perfect. Their minds are perfect in every way, that means they have the same thoughts and desires. There is no conflict, jealousy, disagreements between them, they are always in perfect agreement. So you have three beings who act as one. Yes, they are each distinct, but they are each the same. Yes, true. They all work for the same goal, same purpose, with the same thought of mind. But that doesn't not mean they ARE ONE. That means the ARE AS ONE. Sorry if this is what you originally ment and I misunderstood. Just the baptists see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God our father as one being. Not separate entities that work in harmony as one. I don't care how the Baptists see it. Jesus is just as much God as the father is. Jesus made himself subservient to the Father for reasons I don't understand, but they are both equally God. As I showed you in Isaiah 44:6, when they speak, they say "I", not "we" or "us". God is our father. God is a secular term for our father. Know ye not that ye are God's and children of the most high? So yes, Jesus is just as much god as our father is. He is just as much god as you and I are. We are all Gods. And when we are "born again", we then are children of the most high. |
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God is our father. God is a secular term for our father. Know ye not that ye are God's and children of the most high? So yes, Jesus is just as much god as our father is. He is just as much god as you and I are. We are all Gods. And when we are "born again", we then are children of the most high. I'm out. If you are just going to ignore half the Bible and make stuff up, good luck to you, but you hurting the cause of spreading Christianity by sticking with these ridiculous notions. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Ok Cowboy,you say you don't mind correction..... ok.....so yes..God created everything in existence..... but God and Jesus ( the WORD become flesh) and the Holy Spirit were all right there together in the VERY beginning...as ONE GOD Verses like the following teach me Jesus, God, and the Holy spirit are not one entity. ----------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. ----------------------- Why would it specifically state the three as separate entities if they are one? Why wouldn't it just say grace of God, love of God, and the communion of God? What would be the point in giving "God" our father separate names/beings when they are being referred to all at the same time? Three separate entities, all of them perfect. Their minds are perfect in every way, that means they have the same thoughts and desires. There is no conflict, jealousy, disagreements between them, they are always in perfect agreement. So you have three beings who act as one. Yes, they are each distinct, but they are each the same. Cowboy... what Spider said. Three separate entities or persons , yet.. still.. ONE.. GOD. Cowboy, here is a good way to understand.. you are made up of body soul and spirit.... does that make you THREE Cowboys ,are still ONE Cowboy..... |
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Ok Cowboy,you say you don't mind correction..... ok.....so yes..God created everything in existence..... but God and Jesus ( the WORD become flesh) and the Holy Spirit were all right there together in the VERY beginning...as ONE GOD Verses like the following teach me Jesus, God, and the Holy spirit are not one entity. ----------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. ----------------------- Why would it specifically state the three as separate entities if they are one? Why wouldn't it just say grace of God, love of God, and the communion of God? What would be the point in giving "God" our father separate names/beings when they are being referred to all at the same time? Three separate entities, all of them perfect. Their minds are perfect in every way, that means they have the same thoughts and desires. There is no conflict, jealousy, disagreements between them, they are always in perfect agreement. So you have three beings who act as one. Yes, they are each distinct, but they are each the same. Yes, true. They all work for the same goal, same purpose, with the same thought of mind. But that doesn't not mean they ARE ONE. That means the ARE AS ONE. Sorry if this is what you originally ment and I misunderstood. Just the baptists see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God our father as one being. Not separate entities that work in harmony as one. I don't care how the Baptists see it. Jesus is just as much God as the father is. Jesus made himself subservient to the Father for reasons I don't understand, but they are both equally God. As I showed you in Isaiah 44:6, when they speak, they say "I", not "we" or "us". God is our father. God is a secular term for our father. Know ye not that ye are God's and children of the most high? So yes, Jesus is just as much god as our father is. He is just as much god as you and I are. We are all Gods. And when we are "born again", we then are children of the most high. And I notice through my searchings, that there is God and god. Sometimes it's capitalized and some it's not. When it is capitalized, it is speaking directly of our father. So I'm guessing it is his name. Any knowledge if the two are spelt differently in the original language or not? |
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God is our father. God is a secular term for our father. Know ye not that ye are God's and children of the most high? So yes, Jesus is just as much god as our father is. He is just as much god as you and I are. We are all Gods. And when we are "born again", we then are children of the most high. I'm out. If you are just going to ignore half the Bible and make stuff up, good luck to you, but you hurting the cause of spreading Christianity by sticking with these ridiculous notions. Everyone has a right to their own opinions. If all Christians agreed on everything, there would only be a single denomination, a single Church. |
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God is our father. God is a secular term for our father. Know ye not that ye are God's and children of the most high? So yes, Jesus is just as much god as our father is. He is just as much god as you and I are. We are all Gods. And when we are "born again", we then are children of the most high. I'm out. If you are just going to ignore half the Bible and make stuff up, good luck to you, but you hurting the cause of spreading Christianity by sticking with these ridiculous notions. ??? what in the world??? We are discussing, I could quite possibly learn something here. You can't learn anything unless you ask questions and or discuss the matter in question. That's all I'm doing, I'm trying to gather all the knowledge of this sort of thing. I'm not arguing or anything. But ok, see you later man. |
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Ok Cowboy,you say you don't mind correction..... ok.....so yes..God created everything in existence..... but God and Jesus ( the WORD become flesh) and the Holy Spirit were all right there together in the VERY beginning...as ONE GOD Verses like the following teach me Jesus, God, and the Holy spirit are not one entity. ----------------------- 2 Corinthians 13:14 14The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. ----------------------- Why would it specifically state the three as separate entities if they are one? Why wouldn't it just say grace of God, love of God, and the communion of God? What would be the point in giving "God" our father separate names/beings when they are being referred to all at the same time? Three separate entities, all of them perfect. Their minds are perfect in every way, that means they have the same thoughts and desires. There is no conflict, jealousy, disagreements between them, they are always in perfect agreement. So you have three beings who act as one. Yes, they are each distinct, but they are each the same. Yes, true. They all work for the same goal, same purpose, with the same thought of mind. But that doesn't not mean they ARE ONE. That means the ARE AS ONE. Sorry if this is what you originally ment and I misunderstood. Just the baptists see Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God our father as one being. Not separate entities that work in harmony as one. I don't care how the Baptists see it. Jesus is just as much God as the father is. Jesus made himself subservient to the Father for reasons I don't understand, but they are both equally God. As I showed you in Isaiah 44:6, when they speak, they say "I", not "we" or "us". It is not at all logical to call Jesus the son of the Father and then say that they are one and the same. But then, neither is it logical to say that we are all one. Why do you separate yourself from your God? |
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God is our father. God is a secular term for our father. Know ye not that ye are God's and children of the most high? So yes, Jesus is just as much god as our father is. He is just as much god as you and I are. We are all Gods. And when we are "born again", we then are children of the most high. I'm out. If you are just going to ignore half the Bible and make stuff up, good luck to you, but you hurting the cause of spreading Christianity by sticking with these ridiculous notions. ??? what in the world??? We are discussing, I could quite possibly learn something here. You can't learn anything unless you ask questions and or discuss the matter in question. That's all I'm doing, I'm trying to gather all the knowledge of this sort of thing. I'm not arguing or anything. But ok, see you later man. There are those Christians who insist that they are right and get very upset if anyone disagrees.  
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It is not at all logical to call Jesus the son of the Father and then say that they are one and the same. But then, neither is it logical to say that we are all one. Why do you separate yourself from your God? Jeannie, Jesus is God's son, because he chooses to be. Jesus submitted himself to the Father by his own free will, he isn't lesser in any way. He wasn't created by the Father, John 1:1 tells us that Jesus has existed forever. Jesus has chosen to serve a specific role, that of Son to the Father. We aren't all one. I separate myself from God through sin, just like everyone else. It's not because I want to, but because I'm an imperfect person. |
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There are those Christians who insist that they are right and get very upset if anyone disagrees.
There are people like that all over the world of every race, religion and nationality. Then there are people, like me, who recognize a lost cause and choose to not beat a dead horse. |
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It is not at all logical to call Jesus the son of the Father and then say that they are one and the same. But then, neither is it logical to say that we are all one. Why do you separate yourself from your God? Jeannie, Jesus is God's son, because he chooses to be. Jesus submitted himself to the Father by his own free will, he isn't lesser in any way. He wasn't created by the Father, John 1:1 tells us that Jesus has existed forever. Jesus has chosen to serve a specific role, that of Son to the Father. We aren't all one. I separate myself from God through sin, just like everyone else. It's not because I want to, but because I'm an imperfect person. I agree, you are an imperfect person. |
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There are those Christians who insist that they are right and get very upset if anyone disagrees.
There are people like that all over the world of every race, religion and nationality. Then there are people, like me, who recognize a lost cause and choose to not beat a dead horse. No, you seem to love beading dead horses. |
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I agree, you are an imperfect person. What is sad is that you probably think that's an insult. |
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I agree, you are an imperfect person. What is sad is that you probably think that's an insult. Nope, its a fact. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 05/12/11 01:40 PM
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Cowboy...like Spider explained, God is made up of
Three separate entities or persons , yet.. still.. ONE... GOD !!! Cowboy, here is a good way to better understand : you are made up of body soul and spirit.... does that make you THREE Cowboys ,are still ONE Cowboy ? Also, when you die, your body goes to the ground until the ressurrection and your spirit goes to heaven . Does that mean there is one Cowboy in the ground and an entirely different Cowboy in heaven? Get the picture? Cowboy..at one time I did not understand either....
Cowboy, Jesus CREATED the world..He is the Word made Flesh... He is the second person of the trinity made flesh...yet still GOD.... YET He left all His glory behind, to become man.... yet He was still GOD..... and became obedient to the Father in heaven while He was down here on Earth. but Now Jesus is RISEN from the dead...and has Ascended into heaven... (And Yes Cowboy, Jesus IS Ressurrrected from the DEAD!!)
and All the Power and Glory Now Goes to HIM ...JESUS!!!! God the Father has given ALL GLORY to the SON Now, because of what he did on that cross..... and when one gets to heaven ,one will see the Nail prints in His hands.. sitting oin the Throne...High and Lifted Up....Amen!!
Point is, Cowboy....it is actually God Himself( the Word became Flesh) who stepped down from above, and bore the sins of the world on that crosss !!!! But God had to become man in order to do this..... yet still He was God. The ony way the sins of the world could be paid for in Full, was for GOD HIMSELF to die on that cross for us. A mere mortal man could not have done this... cause a mere mortal man could not have borne and paid the price in full , for the sins of the world... it took GOD to do this. AND GOD WAS WILLING TO DO THIS....FOR US... CAUSE HE LOVES US THAT MUCH. Hope this helps now, Cowboy.
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