Topic: Firefighters Let Family's House Burn Down Because Owner Didn | |
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.... Conservatism teaches people to be responsible for they're actions. Like nature would dictate, it's un natural to pity and cater to the ones unwilling to even save themselves. This part makes me think of animals who eat their own young...welcome to the modern world... It should remind you of a litter of cats and the one's who are determined to get to the milk supply live and those who are to weak or are unwilling to FIGHT to survive die. Thus ensuring that only the best genetics survive and ensuring the success of the species. what does income have to do with genetic superiority? seriously?!! This is not about income, it's about stupidity. She had the money how do you think they lived there? Hell she could have sat on the side of the street with a sign asking for the money. She didn't though. She was to STUPID (poor survival genetics) to pay the money and so she lost her house. |
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I thought emergencies were called such because they are unpredictable. I wonder if anyone had been harmed as a result if the department would have been responsible. Sad that the bottom line for so much of our society is making a buck, but the homeowner learned a valuable lesson about contracts,,,,, There is that liberal thinking again. lol Trying to find a reason to blame the fire department when the home owner KNOWINGLY REFUSED TO PAY!!! She made a choice and she has to live with it! At some point you have to learn that there wont always be someone there to wipe your *** for you when you make stupid choices! What about the guys risking they're lives for her house? Do they not deserve a measly 75$ to put they're lives on the line?? Where do you come up with this thinking you have???? I dont know, valuing human life above a buck maybe? a fire is a DANGER to people, not necessarily just the ones who own the home, I would think decency would dictate that one not let a house burn down because of seventy five dollars my thinking was that the owner should have known better than to not pay the fee AND the firefighters should have had the decency to save the home in SPITE of seventy five dollars(Im sure that fee isnt the only place they get their earnings from) First of all they did help the HUMANS involved and if she was not willing to save herself then she doesn't deserve it. so where will these humans live, and what of their investment in this home,, hundreds of thousands allowed to go in flames over 75 dollars good grief, city and state taaxes dont pay the fire department enough for collectors?...lol they even give people behind on their mortgage a CHANCE to catch up before just putting them on the street over a buck LOL exactly you finally get it!!! All that loss over 75!!! Man I bet she will take better care of her investments in the future!!! Lesson learned I would say! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 10/06/10 09:38 AM
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.... Conservatism teaches people to be responsible for they're actions. Like nature would dictate, it's un natural to pity and cater to the ones unwilling to even save themselves. This part makes me think of animals who eat their own young...welcome to the modern world... It should remind you of a litter of cats and the one's who are determined to get to the milk supply live and those who are to weak or are unwilling to FIGHT to survive die. Thus ensuring that only the best genetics survive and ensuring the success of the species. what does income have to do with genetic superiority? seriously?!! This is not about income, it's about stupidity. She had the money how do you think they lived there? Hell she could have sat on the side of the street with a sign asking for the money. She didn't though. She was to STUPID (poor survival genetics) to pay the money and so she lost her house. its a contract, she didnt sign it , so she didnt get the service,, I understand that part and I posted it earlier,,,HOWEVER thats the profit as bottom line part that I disagree with,, that fire department STILL receives funds from rhat family from the taxes they pay and as taxpayers they still should not have had to loose their home over 75 dollars here is another analogy, in certain muslim communities, adultery is a crime punishable by stoning the women know this and some still commit adultery and are stoned now, these women do know the consequence and choose their action so they should make better choices,, BUT that doesnt justify that the CONSEQUENCE does not seem reasonable, and it doesnt mean they are somehow genetically weaker or stupid and deserving to die off,,, |
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What a pile of crap responses. First off it was a man whose house burned...killing 3 of his grandkid's pets. He and a neighbor offered to pay the $75 but the firemen refused. The fire did spread to his neighbors area but the firemen put that one out and drenched the property line...leaving his house to burn.
At least 4 homes in Obion County have burned to the ground because they either could not afford the fee or had missed it in the mail. The man's son's house was on fire and they came even tho~ he had not paid the fee...they (he and his son) put the fire out before they arrived but the firemen were going to help. It seems selective who they help. What if there was a person trapped in the fire??? People who post w/o a clue are the same. Clueless. |
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What a pile of crap responses. First off it was a man whose house burned...killing 3 of his grandkid's pets. He and a neighbor offered to pay the $75 but the firemen refused. The fire did spread to his neighbors area but the firemen put that one out and drenched the property line...leaving his house to burn. At least 4 homes in Obion County have burned to the ground because they either could not afford the fee or had missed it in the mail. The man's son's house was on fire and they came even tho~ he had not paid the fee...they (he and his son) put the fire out before they arrived but the firemen were going to help. It seems selective who they help. What if there was a person trapped in the fire??? People who post w/o a clue are the same. Clueless. Having the gender wrong is not a sign of clueless. If this was an act of nature that destroyed the houses and the people had neglected (for whatever reason) to obtain home owners insurance, this would not even be an issue. No one would be mad at the insurance companies. It's only because the people allowed it to happen that you people are all upset. Well too bad!!!! No one cares! The houses still burnt down and they still lost they're stuff! Your pity doesn't help them! But guess what, they all learned a valuable lesson and that is helpful! The fact remains they should have taken the steps to take care of they're house and they didn't. But go ahead and try to place blame on the fire department! Of course it's they're fault! LOL WEAK SAUCE MY FRIEND WEAK! |
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Here is a little factual information thrown into the mix just for the sake of those that care about facts.
I know there aren't many on this site that do, but what the hell.. "Statistics indicate that the majority of all fire calls are rural in nature and are responded to by municipal fire departments. These departments are solely funded by the tax dollars belonging to each individual town or city. It is becoming more difficult to convince municipal leaders that the municipal fire departments responding to calls outside the municipal boundaries and for which no compensation is guaranteed is “just the right thing to do”. Obion County is a very progressive county. We continue to recruit new industry such as the Ethanol Plant and Cates Landing River Port Project. We’re building new roads and new schools and making improvements in health care, law enforcement and tourism. The implementation of a Regional Airport, the construction of the I-69 corridor through Obion County and improvements to our local infrastructure reflect the commitment of our county commissioner and municipal officials." http://troy.troytn.com/Obion%20County%20Fire%20Department%20Presentation%20Presented%20to%20the%20County%20Commission.pdf |
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Here is a little factual information thrown into the mix just for the sake of those that care about facts. I know there aren't many on this site that do, but what the hell.. "Statistics indicate that the majority of all fire calls are rural in nature and are responded to by municipal fire departments. These departments are solely funded by the tax dollars belonging to each individual town or city. It is becoming more difficult to convince municipal leaders that the municipal fire departments responding to calls outside the municipal boundaries and for which no compensation is guaranteed is “just the right thing to do”. Obion County is a very progressive county. We continue to recruit new industry such as the Ethanol Plant and Cates Landing River Port Project. We’re building new roads and new schools and making improvements in health care, law enforcement and tourism. The implementation of a Regional Airport, the construction of the I-69 corridor through Obion County and improvements to our local infrastructure reflect the commitment of our county commissioner and municipal officials." http://troy.troytn.com/Obion%20County%20Fire%20Department%20Presentation%20Presented%20to%20the%20County%20Commission.pdf thanx for the facts,,, |
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it seems that with a fire there is a "point of no return" meaning that once a fire reaches a certain point, everything is lost anyway, no matter what the fire department does. Maybe this fire was beyond that point.
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues?
What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. I wonder if they knew at the time that they're were animals in they're or if it was even possible to save them. |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners Have to agree with Moe here. The owners are responsible for the animals. They could have gone in after them. Considering most people don't have the warning stickers on their house, then your average person wouldn't know critters were inside. I know that's exactly what I'd be doing getting my dogs, cats and parrots out of the house. I have small carry cages sitting on top of each bird cage, and would drag them out biting if it meant saving them. If you don't know how to get your animals out of the house in an emergency, then you have failed them. If you don't have an outdoor sign, in some form or fashion, then you have failed your animals too. |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners Have to agree with Moe here. The owners are responsible for the animals. They could have gone in after them. Considering most people don't have the warning stickers on their house, then your average person wouldn't know critters were inside. I know that's exactly what I'd be doing getting my dogs, cats and parrots out of the house. I have small carry cages sitting on top of each bird cage, and would drag them out biting if it meant saving them. If you don't know how to get your animals out of the house in an emergency, then you have failed them. If you don't have an outdoor sign, in some form or fashion, then you have failed your animals too. |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners Have to agree with Moe here. The owners are responsible for the animals. They could have gone in after them. Considering most people don't have the warning stickers on their house, then your average person wouldn't know critters were inside. I know that's exactly what I'd be doing getting my dogs, cats and parrots out of the house. I have small carry cages sitting on top of each bird cage, and would drag them out biting if it meant saving them. If you don't know how to get your animals out of the house in an emergency, then you have failed them. If you don't have an outdoor sign, in some form or fashion, then you have failed your animals too. sad,,,,, for certain I dont know the timeline or the severity, but just as a citizen and a neighbor if I could do anything to help someone else save their home I would, regardless of money,,, I think its sad that the job of fireman should come down to anything less,,, |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners Have to agree with Moe here. The owners are responsible for the animals. They could have gone in after them. Considering most people don't have the warning stickers on their house, then your average person wouldn't know critters were inside. I know that's exactly what I'd be doing getting my dogs, cats and parrots out of the house. I have small carry cages sitting on top of each bird cage, and would drag them out biting if it meant saving them. If you don't know how to get your animals out of the house in an emergency, then you have failed them. If you don't have an outdoor sign, in some form or fashion, then you have failed your animals too. sad,,,,, for certain I dont know the timeline or the severity, but just as a citizen and a neighbor if I could do anything to help someone else save their home I would, regardless of money,,, I think its sad that the job of fireman should come down to anything less,,, Sadly, I see the job of fireman becoming more like Farenheit-451. Even where I am, and although we don't have the mafia/must pay or else thing going on, it still take 45 minutes for the fire dept to get here. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 10/06/10 11:59 AM
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners Have to agree with Moe here. The owners are responsible for the animals. They could have gone in after them. Considering most people don't have the warning stickers on their house, then your average person wouldn't know critters were inside. I know that's exactly what I'd be doing getting my dogs, cats and parrots out of the house. I have small carry cages sitting on top of each bird cage, and would drag them out biting if it meant saving them. If you don't know how to get your animals out of the house in an emergency, then you have failed them. If you don't have an outdoor sign, in some form or fashion, then you have failed your animals too. sad,,,,, for certain I dont know the timeline or the severity, but just as a citizen and a neighbor if I could do anything to help someone else save their home I would, regardless of money,,, I think its sad that the job of fireman should come down to anything less,,, Sadly, I see the job of fireman becoming more like Farenheit-451. Even where I am, and although we don't have the mafia/must pay or else thing going on, it still take 45 minutes for the fire dept to get here. tell me about it,,,we lived two blocks from a police department and it took nearly two hours for them to respond to a burglary in process call I think we are getting closer and closer to a society where the value of human life comes down to their net worth and resources,,,more money/better service no money/no service a big part of that I attribute to greed, more counties are decreasing wages and resources that our 'civil servants' have to work with too |
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It seems to me that if you are going to be burning trash on your property, it might be wise to make sure you have paid your fire service dues? Although they most likely were burning the trash so they didn't have to pay the refuse service dues? What kills me is that they all stood there and let 3 innocent animals burn to death. that would be the animals owners Have to agree with Moe here. The owners are responsible for the animals. They could have gone in after them. Considering most people don't have the warning stickers on their house, then your average person wouldn't know critters were inside. I know that's exactly what I'd be doing getting my dogs, cats and parrots out of the house. I have small carry cages sitting on top of each bird cage, and would drag them out biting if it meant saving them. If you don't know how to get your animals out of the house in an emergency, then you have failed them. If you don't have an outdoor sign, in some form or fashion, then you have failed your animals too. sad,,,,, for certain I dont know the timeline or the severity, but just as a citizen and a neighbor if I could do anything to help someone else save their home I would, regardless of money,,, I think its sad that the job of fireman should come down to anything less,,, Sadly, I see the job of fireman becoming more like Farenheit-451. Even where I am, and although we don't have the mafia/must pay or else thing going on, it still take 45 minutes for the fire dept to get here. tell me about it,,,we lived two blocks from a police department and it took nearly two hours for them to respond to a burglary in process call I think we are getting closer and closer to a society where the value of human life comes down to their net worth and resources,,,more money/better service no money/no service a big part of that I attribute to greed, more counties are decreasing wages and resources that our 'civil servants' have to work with too Oh yeah, I definitely agree there. My aunt works with the state of Texas, and some of the horror stories she was telling dad were sad. She cut loose on one of her bosses one day and laid into her about what could be done better and not waste so much money. She had us rolling with laughter as she recounted it, but it was amazing the crap going on. |
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Edited by
MiddleEarthling
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Wed 10/06/10 05:29 PM
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What a pile of crap responses. First off it was a man whose house burned...killing 3 of his grandkid's pets. He and a neighbor offered to pay the $75 but the firemen refused. The fire did spread to his neighbors area but the firemen put that one out and drenched the property line...leaving his house to burn. At least 4 homes in Obion County have burned to the ground because they either could not afford the fee or had missed it in the mail. The man's son's house was on fire and they came even tho~ he had not paid the fee...they (he and his son) put the fire out before they arrived but the firemen were going to help. It seems selective who they help. What if there was a person trapped in the fire??? People who post w/o a clue are the same. Clueless. Having the gender wrong is not a sign of clueless. If this was an act of nature that destroyed the houses and the people had neglected (for whatever reason) to obtain home owners insurance, this would not even be an issue. No one would be mad at the insurance companies. It's only because the people allowed it to happen that you people are all upset. Well too bad!!!! No one cares! The houses still burnt down and they still lost they're stuff! Your pity doesn't help them! But guess what, they all learned a valuable lesson and that is helpful! The fact remains they should have taken the steps to take care of they're house and they didn't. But go ahead and try to place blame on the fire department! Of course it's they're fault! LOL WEAK SAUCE MY FRIEND WEAK! Okay yeah, let his house burn...and I am not the only one pizzed off about this out-sourcing of public safety services. "Fire Fighters Condemn South Fulton’s Decision to Let Home Burn" http://www.iaff.org/Comm/PDFs/SouthFulton.pdf And that's "their"...and I DO care about my neighbor's safety, even if they may be RW nutbags. This is about community not politics. If the RW Nutbaggery want "less gubberment" they need to think twice on this one. |
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Edited by
Rachel78745
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Wed 10/06/10 05:36 PM
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What a pile of crap responses. First off it was a man whose house burned...killing 3 of his grandkid's pets. He and a neighbor offered to pay the $75 but the firemen refused. The fire did spread to his neighbors area but the firemen put that one out and drenched the property line...leaving his house to burn. At least 4 homes in Obion County have burned to the ground because they either could not afford the fee or had missed it in the mail. The man's son's house was on fire and they came even tho~ he had not paid the fee...they (he and his son) put the fire out before they arrived but the firemen were going to help. It seems selective who they help. What if there was a person trapped in the fire??? People who post w/o a clue are the same. Clueless. Having the gender wrong is not a sign of clueless. If this was an act of nature that destroyed the houses and the people had neglected (for whatever reason) to obtain home owners insurance, this would not even be an issue. No one would be mad at the insurance companies. It's only because the people allowed it to happen that you people are all upset. Well too bad!!!! No one cares! The houses still burnt down and they still lost they're stuff! Your pity doesn't help them! But guess what, they all learned a valuable lesson and that is helpful! The fact remains they should have taken the steps to take care of they're house and they didn't. But go ahead and try to place blame on the fire department! Of course it's they're fault! LOL WEAK SAUCE MY FRIEND WEAK! Okay yeah, let his house burn...and I am not the only one pizzed off about this out-sourcing of public safety services. "Fire Fighters Condemn South Fulton’s Decision to Let Home Burn" http://www.iaff.org/Comm/PDFs/SouthFulton.pdfAnd that's "their"...and I DO care about my neighbor's safety, even if they may be RW nutbags. This is about community not politics. If the RW Nutbaggery want "less gubberment" they need to think twice on this one. No it's about one stupid person. Not community. |
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What a pile of crap responses. First off it was a man whose house burned...killing 3 of his grandkid's pets. He and a neighbor offered to pay the $75 but the firemen refused. The fire did spread to his neighbors area but the firemen put that one out and drenched the property line...leaving his house to burn. At least 4 homes in Obion County have burned to the ground because they either could not afford the fee or had missed it in the mail. The man's son's house was on fire and they came even tho~ he had not paid the fee...they (he and his son) put the fire out before they arrived but the firemen were going to help. It seems selective who they help. What if there was a person trapped in the fire??? People who post w/o a clue are the same. Clueless. Having the gender wrong is not a sign of clueless. If this was an act of nature that destroyed the houses and the people had neglected (for whatever reason) to obtain home owners insurance, this would not even be an issue. No one would be mad at the insurance companies. It's only because the people allowed it to happen that you people are all upset. Well too bad!!!! No one cares! The houses still burnt down and they still lost they're stuff! Your pity doesn't help them! But guess what, they all learned a valuable lesson and that is helpful! The fact remains they should have taken the steps to take care of they're house and they didn't. But go ahead and try to place blame on the fire department! Of course it's they're fault! LOL WEAK SAUCE MY FRIEND WEAK! Okay yeah, let his house burn...and I am not the only one pizzed off about this out-sourcing of public safety services. "Fire Fighters Condemn South Fulton’s Decision to Let Home Burn" http://www.iaff.org/Comm/PDFs/SouthFulton.pdfAnd that's "their"...and I DO care about my neighbor's safety, even if they may be RW nutbags. This is about community not politics. If the RW Nutbaggery want "less gubberment" they need to think twice on this one. No it's about one stupid person. Not community. The gentleman who watched his house burn down is part of the community...he lives near South Fulton in Obion County, Tennessee, an American county...not a foreign country...not a third world country. I've been to Obion County, Tennessee and I assure you it is a community of Americans. Hello! Anybody in there? "Just nod if you can hear me." Stupid people? 4 houses in that county have burned down...so far. |
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