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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well 
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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well
Definitely, you said though, not me. 
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Well, Dragoness is onto something...ban all religions. If we have to ban them all just to get rid of Islam, then its a good idea. tell me how do you BAN a religion,, what will be the punishment for choosing to keep religious beliefs ? How can such a ban be executed without WILLFUL disregard to civil liberties? there is no religion in america that supercedes the law of the LAND, including the religion of muslims,,, they have to abide by the countries laws , there is no issue there, people just try to make their be one IM sure plenty more 'christians' are breaking laws in THIS country than muslims,,,, what do you base your sureness on? O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you". (The Holy Quran, Surah 4. "The Women", verse 59) or But experts of the Islamic legal tradition say differently. The Islamic religion commands believers to obey the laws of the land they live in, even if it be one ruled by nonbelievers. Muslim jurists consider citizenship (or visa) to be a covenant (aqd) held between the citizen (or visa holder) and the state, one which guarantees safe passage/security (amaan) in exchange for certain obligations (such as obeying the laws of the land); covenants are considered sacredly binding in Islam. The Quran commands: And fulfill every covenant. Verily, you will be held accountable with regard to the covenants. (Quran, 17:34) The Quran condemns those who break covenants as not being true believers: It is not the case that every time they make a covenant, some party among them throws it aside. Nay! The truth is most of them believe not. (Quran, 2:100) The Islamic prophet Muhammad described the religious hypocrite as follows: When he enters into a covenant, he proves treacherous. (Sahih al-Bukhari) http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/11/major-nidal-hasan/ but hey, this is just the word of 'experts' in 'tradition' not to be taken as seriously as the islamic experts in these threads,,, where are the muslim riots and attempts at taking over in america? or canada? or Britain? or any other western country where muslims reside? every country they get above 5% population they have and will... look it up if you don't believe it. |
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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well
Definitely, you said though, not me.
we already proved that there is not any other terrorist religions anymore...just because you don't believe it doesn't make it less true. just in case you don't understand, muslims are the problem, not any other religion. quit trying to cloud up the issues please, thats not a valid point you are trying to say. |
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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well
Definitely, you said though, not me.
we already proved that there is not any other terrorist religions anymore...just because you don't believe it doesn't make it less true. just in case you don't understand, muslims are the problem, not any other religion. quit trying to cloud up the issues please, thats not a valid point you are trying to say. I guess thats strictly a matter of opinion and experience,, ask a few palestinians if there arent other religious terrorists(israeli) |
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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well
Definitely, you said though, not me.
we already proved that there is not any other terrorist religions anymore...just because you don't believe it doesn't make it less true. just in case you don't understand, muslims are the problem, not any other religion. quit trying to cloud up the issues please, thats not a valid point you are trying to say. I guess thats strictly a matter of opinion and experience,, ask a few palestinians if there arent other religious terrorists(israeli) This is a lie. In Israel if anyone commits a terrorist act they are immediately arrested and prosecuted. There is no terrorism in Israel. It is not a matter of opinion at all. It is well documented fact. To suggest that Israel's military defense is terrorism is completely unfounded and is part of the effort of true terrorist organizations to deny Israel their right to self-defense. Fortunately it is easy to see the difference between the terrorists and Israel. Terrorism is also not tolerated in the US and the rest of the civilized world the exact same way it is treated in Israel. Compare this to Hamas which is a state sponsored terrorist organization whose primary purpose is to terrorize people. A government which proudly claims that killing innocent women and children is a GOOD thing. This is the difference. A characteristic shared with the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. Where occasions of mass murder and war crimes, crimes against humanity such as the 9/11 attacks are celebrated with Hamas sponsored parties and dancing There is no comparison. Israel is not a terrorist state. Occupation is not terrorism. Bus bombings and nail laden explosives in cafes, and hijacking airliners and flying them into office buildings, and shooting rockets indiscriminately into cities are terrorist tactics - aimed at killing civilians. Having your papers checked at a border crossing is not comparable. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 09/06/10 01:39 AM
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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well
Definitely, you said though, not me.
we already proved that there is not any other terrorist religions anymore...just because you don't believe it doesn't make it less true. just in case you don't understand, muslims are the problem, not any other religion. quit trying to cloud up the issues please, thats not a valid point you are trying to say. I guess thats strictly a matter of opinion and experience,, ask a few palestinians if there arent other religious terrorists(israeli) This is a lie. In Israel if anyone commits a terrorist act they are immediately arrested and prosecuted. There is no terrorism in Israel. It is not a matter of opinion at all. It is well documented fact. To suggest that Israel's military defense is terrorism is completely unfounded and is part of the effort of true terrorist organizations to deny Israel their right to self-defense. Fortunately it is easy to see the difference between the terrorists and Israel. Terrorism is also not tolerated in the US and the rest of the civilized world the exact same way it is treated in Israel. Compare this to Hamas which is a state sponsored terrorist organization whose primary purpose is to terrorize people. A government which proudly claims that killing innocent women and children is a GOOD thing. This is the difference. A characteristic shared with the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. Where occasions of mass murder and war crimes, crimes against humanity such as the 9/11 attacks are celebrated with Hamas sponsored parties and dancing There is no comparison. Israel is not a terrorist state. Occupation is not terrorism. Bus bombings and nail laden explosives in cafes, and hijacking airliners and flying them into office buildings, and shooting rockets indiscriminately into cities are terrorist tactics - aimed at killing civilians. Having your papers checked at a border crossing is not comparable. documented by WHOM, israel? if muslims should be held accountable for what muslim terrorists do in the name of islam, why should not Israel be held accountable for their actions to PRESERVE their faith? Im sure those who die in bombings and attacks might label them terrorists even if they themselves DOCUMENT it otherwise,,, my point is this: to say there are no other MEMBERS of a religion other than Islam who have terrorists is either blatantly deceptive or insanely naive,,, |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Mon 09/06/10 06:54 AM
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Apparently people cannot separate terrorists from their religion. Apparently hatemongering has become a big problem in this country. Apparently people cannot be fair to all the terrorists religions. Apparently we have a right to hate others and do violent things to them in their country in whatever name we want but when others do the same wrong it is somehow worse? There are a lot of "apparentlys" that don't seem to be so apparent to some. Apparently stupidity (action) runs rampid among some people as well
Definitely, you said though, not me.
we already proved that there is not any other terrorist religions anymore...just because you don't believe it doesn't make it less true. just in case you don't understand, muslims are the problem, not any other religion. quit trying to cloud up the issues please, thats not a valid point you are trying to say. I guess thats strictly a matter of opinion and experience,, ask a few palestinians if there arent other religious terrorists(israeli) This is a lie. In Israel if anyone commits a terrorist act they are immediately arrested and prosecuted. There is no terrorism in Israel. It is not a matter of opinion at all. It is well documented fact. To suggest that Israel's military defense is terrorism is completely unfounded and is part of the effort of true terrorist organizations to deny Israel their right to self-defense. Fortunately it is easy to see the difference between the terrorists and Israel. Terrorism is also not tolerated in the US and the rest of the civilized world the exact same way it is treated in Israel. Compare this to Hamas which is a state sponsored terrorist organization whose primary purpose is to terrorize people. A government which proudly claims that killing innocent women and children is a GOOD thing. This is the difference. A characteristic shared with the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. Where occasions of mass murder and war crimes, crimes against humanity such as the 9/11 attacks are celebrated with Hamas sponsored parties and dancing There is no comparison. Israel is not a terrorist state. Occupation is not terrorism. Bus bombings and nail laden explosives in cafes, and hijacking airliners and flying them into office buildings, and shooting rockets indiscriminately into cities are terrorist tactics - aimed at killing civilians. Having your papers checked at a border crossing is not comparable. documented by WHOM, israel? if muslims should be held accountable for what muslim terrorists do in the name of islam, why should not Israel be held accountable for their actions to PRESERVE their faith? Im sure those who die in bombings and attacks might label them terrorists even if they themselves DOCUMENT it otherwise,,, my point is this: to say there are no other MEMBERS of a religion other than Islam who have terrorists is either blatantly deceptive or insanely naive,,, Documented by the world. The Free Press (which does not exist in many Islamic countries) but which does thrive in Israel and the U.S. and Europe among other places have extensively covered the conflict. Israel is held accountable for her actions - even the tiniest justifiable defensive actions are put under a microscope. No reasonable person is saying that innocent peaceful Muslims should be punished for the actions of the murderers (Islamic terrorists). However, EVERYONE, all human beings have a responsibility to speak out and take actions against those terrorist organizations who commit war crimes such as the 9/11 attacks against innocent people. Who are these guilty parties? This is an extremely easy question to answer since the guilty parties joyfully rejoice in their atrocities and brag about them - Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Islamic Jihad and Iran to name a few. But conspicuously NOT Israel. Israel does not participate in nor do they tolerate such acts and to suggest that they do is simply false. http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Issues/Terrorism/Incidents/ |
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