As i'm here on this forum, and i've talked with many of you before, i feel as if i'm talking to primarily christians on this forum. However i know that i've also talked with other Mormons, Jews and Muslims.

My question is Why don't you believe in another god, or another worship of your god. For instance christianity has hundreds of different sub-sects, many of which believe that others will not reach salvation because of the alteration of their faith.

Ultimately it comes down to semantics. Do you believe in your ways of faith because of the way you were raised? Did you research all known religions before you made your decision? Do you believe that your religious "knowledge" is more right than another persons.

Ultimately, why do you believe that you are right?

To me, one religion is as false as the other. All religion is is personalized. We see more and more of people who no longer attend a church, but instead adhere to their own form of spiritual adhesion. They read their spiritual texts and then believe more in their own interpretation more than other scholars'.

Discuss.

This is actually a very simple question to answer;

There is a "absolute truth" it is basic, uncomplicated; even a child can grasp it. But people do not see what is, they see what they want, for a number of reasons.If you compare all the religions of the world you will find they all have a common theme except one.That one is the true Christian doctrine. In all other religions you earn your way. Not so with Christiainity; it is a free gift.

Well that's not true. You have to accept that Jesus Christ is your savior and love him before you get the gift.

And also, that's what ALL religions say. "There is an "absolute truth" it is basic, but most people don't recognize the flying spaghetti monster as their savior."

What you just gave isn't an answer at all.

Well, if Christianity is the ODD-BALL out, then clearly it must be the one that's wrong. Even a child should be able to grasp that.

Hehehe... you know we have our crossroads of opinion quite often, but i must say i never tire of your posts.

No, I don't live my childhood religion, I reject it.

I didn't research ALL religions, I'm sure I missed some. I searched a whole bunch though and now I like where I am.

No, I don't believe my 'religious knowledge' is more right or more wrong than other people. Doesn't make sense to most anyway.

I don't know if I'm right...just doing what works for me.

What works for you charliPiano?

the natural, real world. And what i don't understand about that, i don't try to attribute to mystical/spiritual/divine forces. I just hope that eventually we might be closer to understanding, and in that time, maybe we can move further away from religions that invoke fear.

You're absolutely RIGHT, it's not a FREE Gift at all!

People better read the FINE PRINT.

If you accept the Crucifixion of Jesus on your behalf that means that you totally condone the crucifixion be done on your behalf.

In other words, if you aren't willing to nail Jesus to the cross yourself, then you aren't willing to accept the sacrifice in YOUR NAME.

If you would have done anything at all to prevent the crucifixion, or even so much as refuse to be party to it, then you are rejecting the sacrifice on YOUR BEHALF.

I absolultely reject the crucifixion on my behalf. Without a doubt. I would not nail Jesus to the pole, nor would I condone having him nailed to the pole by someone on MY BEHALF.

Therefore I CANNOT accept or condone this 'sacrifice' for my sake.

As a matter of principle I would necessarily have no choice but to accept eternal damnation.

So even if the fable is true, I would could not be "saved" because I'm not willing to nail Jesus to the pole for my sake.

The only people who would go to this heaven would be the people who are willing to have Jesus nailed to a pole to pay for their sins. That would not include me.

I would have no choice but to refuse the offer. There's nothing FREE about it and the price is far too high to pay. I would need to condone the crucifixion of a supposedly totally innocent man on my behalf to save myself.

So the religion is utterly worthless to me even if it is true. This God would have rigged things to make it impossible for me to be "saved".

Have fun in Heaven! I guarantee you won't be seeing me there.

Right on

Patience, it's coming!

... i feel like reading Assassins Apprentice every time i see your profile pic :)

who are you talking to CharliePiano?

I don't think it will come in my life time... we're making good progress, but places like Texas are making it hard to actually educate someone without religious bias and indoctrination... so entire generations are going to be put behind.

easy i only think there is one. so it's the same god for all y'all..

OKay, but why do you believe in that god instead of say the muslim version, or Zeus? etc.

cause it's the same god!

it doesn't matter if you are Muslim, Greek, reverse-polish notation or Pharyngeal



and god doesn't care what religion you are either
or if you are atheist

Why do you believe that? Most religions say he does care very much.

why would what religion one observes matter to god?
it's ridiculous! is not a good buddhist just as good as
a good christian? of course she is. Wiccan? sure, why not!
are they kind and thoughtful?

you will make god laugh!

that comment makes me laugh.

But you're not answering my question. Why do you believe that's true? I certainly believe that so long as you live to my morals you're a good person, but morals are objective, and everyone has different ones. YOu believe some people who are good will be viewed kindly by a "god" but why do you say that? Many doctrines say that there are other factors they must adhere to to be accepted in return.

Actually it is.

I send you a letter informing you that I have deposited one million dollars in a bank account in your name; it is a free gift from me to you. And you cry out in protest "But it is NOT free; I had to open the letter and I have to drive to the bank to get it!!!"

Pleeeeeaaaaseee, give me a break!

I believe your correct here....