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Thu 05/13/10 11:39 AM

LA Council Bans Official Travel to Arizona
Updated: 4 hours 47 minutes ago
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Michelle Ruiz

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(May 13) -- The Los Angeles City Council protested Arizona's much-debated new immigration law with a vote banning official travel and blocking new contracts with the state.

Wednesday's Council vote stopped short of enacting a full ban on the city's business with neighboring Arizona. The city has $58 million worth of contracts with Arizona companies. However, the board is asking port, utility and airport officials to review contracts with Arizona-based companies, including US Airways and Arizona Air, two airlines that bring Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) $22 million in annual revenues.
The Los Angeles City Council protested Arizona's much-debated new immigration law with a vote banning official travel and blocking new contracts with the state.
Robyn Beck, AFP, Getty Images
Ahead of the proposed ban, officials with Los Angeles International Airport expressed concerns that severing all contract with Arizona could hurt its operations.

"Los Angeles the second-largest city in this country, an immigrant city, an international city. It needs to have its voice heard,'' Councilman Ed Reyes, one of the resolution's sponsors, told the Los Angeles Times. "As an American, I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport. If I come across an officer who's having a bad day and feels that the picture on my ID is not me, I can be ... deported, no questions asked. That is not American.''

The Council likened the Arizona action, which aims to prosecute and deport illegal immigrants, to the persecution experienced by Jews in Nazi Germany and Japanese-Americans interned in camps in the U.S. during World War II. The Arizona law, which takes effect July 23, makes failure to carry immigration documents a crime, allowing police officers to stop anyone they believe may be in the country illegally, a power that critics believe could lead to racial profiling.

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Maybe if their pocket book hurts a bit they will see the error of their ways, ya think?

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Thu 05/13/10 11:59 AM



All these great and wonderful protests are a bunch of silly horse ****. At the end of the day these boycotters will think with their bank accounts instead of standing by their morals. This is business and in business money talks because that's the bottom line and there is money to be made here in the great state of Arizona. BY the end of this year and months after it takes effect everyone will see what the racists at La Raza and idiots like Isabella Garcia were trying to do. At least in the mean time with LA, SF, Denver, and Boston we'll have less liberals here...and that's a good thing.

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Thu 05/13/10 12:08 PM
I guess "liberal" should be added to the hate list huh?

I'm not a liberal and I am working on getting Arizona boycotted across the nation.

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Thu 05/13/10 12:10 PM
"The Council likened the Arizona action, which aims to prosecute and deport illegal immigrants, to the persecution experienced by Jews in Nazi Germany and Japanese-Americans interned in camps in the U.S. during World War II."

wow...a bit dramatic isn't he?slaphead

So how is "banning" official travel to AZ ok? They can't tell people what state to visit just because they don't like the laws in that state. If I lived in CA, I will go to AZ if I want to. The airlines will lose money by boycotting AZ. Do you think they want to do that? Even if they ban air travel there....people have cars and buses.

I smell Pelosi

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Thu 05/13/10 12:18 PM
I heard on a discussion last night that the law even allows citizens to racially profile folks too.

Takes this country back to the "good ole racists days". Sick.

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Thu 05/13/10 12:25 PM
My neighbors have said they would be more than happy to show ID. They are angry with illegals (when my neighbors did it the right way and are here legally) and if it will help find illegals, then they will gladly show ID to anyone. They are proud that they went about it the legal way and proud to be an American.

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Thu 05/13/10 12:34 PM
Nothing stops the law from being racist.

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Thu 05/13/10 12:43 PM
LA's "banning official travel" sounds more like Nazi Germany to me IMO. Telling American's not to go to other states???? Really??? How about let the Americans decide whether they want to boycott AZ themselves? If someone wants to boycott them, go for it. Otherwise, LA doesn't need to tell people where they can or can't go. Are they going to put trackers in the people in LA to make sure they stay out of AZ?slaphead

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Thu 05/13/10 12:54 PM


LA Council Bans Official Travel to Arizona
Updated: 4 hours 47 minutes ago
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Michelle Ruiz

Michelle Ruiz Contributor
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(May 13) -- The Los Angeles City Council protested Arizona's much-debated new immigration law with a vote banning official travel and blocking new contracts with the state.

Wednesday's Council vote stopped short of enacting a full ban on the city's business with neighboring Arizona. The city has $58 million worth of contracts with Arizona companies. However, the board is asking port, utility and airport officials to review contracts with Arizona-based companies, including US Airways and Arizona Air, two airlines that bring Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) $22 million in annual revenues.
The Los Angeles City Council protested Arizona's much-debated new immigration law with a vote banning official travel and blocking new contracts with the state.
Robyn Beck, AFP, Getty Images
Ahead of the proposed ban, officials with Los Angeles International Airport expressed concerns that severing all contract with Arizona could hurt its operations.

"Los Angeles the second-largest city in this country, an immigrant city, an international city. It needs to have its voice heard,'' Councilman Ed Reyes, one of the resolution's sponsors, told the Los Angeles Times. "As an American, I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport. If I come across an officer who's having a bad day and feels that the picture on my ID is not me, I can be ... deported, no questions asked. That is not American.''

The Council likened the Arizona action, which aims to prosecute and deport illegal immigrants, to the persecution experienced by Jews in Nazi Germany and Japanese-Americans interned in camps in the U.S. during World War II. The Arizona law, which takes effect July 23, makes failure to carry immigration documents a crime, allowing police officers to stop anyone they believe may be in the country illegally, a power that critics believe could lead to racial profiling.

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/la-council-bans-official-travel-to-arizona-to-protest-immigration-law/19475815?icid=main|aim|dl1|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fla-council-bans-official-travel-to-arizona-to-protest-immigration-law%2F19475815

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Maybe if their pocket book hurts a bit they will see the error of their ways, ya think?




on the one hand,, withholding funds is a proven effective method of coercing people into one position or another

on the other hand, I find nothing in the bill to be protesting, perhaps it could be further reworded to state that officers who stop a citizen for a broken law should be required to see PROOF of citizenship(instead of if they suspect illegal immigration which could require singling out one group unfairly)

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Thu 05/13/10 12:54 PM

Nothing stops the law from being racist.


Here we go again.

First and foremost, CA is going to Ban business from Arizona in the face of several billion dollars in deficit?


Not! Silly Goose! It isn't going to happen in this lifetime. Whoever is spewing this is feeding you a LOAD of Horse SHEET. There is no way in hell California is going to mess with their income like that. Forget it. CA needs the money WAY too much to take on a political crusade like this. Ed Reyes is a Latino spewing a load of politically charged BullSHeet like all politicians. he is a no account liberal no body trying to suck up to voters like he is some tough guy.

I live here. Ed Reyes is a nobody trying to pretend he is someone special like Al Sharpton and THE REVEREND Jessie Jackson.

OH BY THE WAY SINCE WE ARE ON THE SUBJECT OF CALIFORNIA AND MONEY (You stepped on this land mine bad!)

Arnie S. Is about to announce some real serious cutbacks. Good by Welfare. Good by Medical. Good Riddance WIC. I mean Arnold is going after Social spending like you don't even know. So much for your welfare state now huh?

And again you digress to Immigration enforcement as Racist in this slyly interjected comment of yours. Now for as smart as you are can you not resort to trying to accuse anyone of wanting law enforcement as racists? Does everything about immigration reform have to deevolve into being a racist accusatory mantra?

This isn't just about Mexicans.

OH AND Before ANYONE goes on a teat about profiling again, how fair is it for a person driving through Louisiana with CA plates on their car have to be subjected to not only a traffic stop BUT always also have to have a inspection by drug dogs? There are several states where driving through them with CA plates automatically means you are transporting drugs in their state. That is also profiling and yet it goes on. Try being the poor bastard driving in Alabama with CA plates on your car. You can be doing speed limit with current tags and they will find ANY excuse to pull you over and get a dog to sniff your car. And you complaining about it happening to "Minorities?" Well, in Arizona the cops will pull over a car with six Hispanics in it and one or two of them the cops remember deporting two weeks before and when sitting in the car they seem AWFUL nervous. PUHLEEZE! Profiling goes on whether or not you like it. Sometimes it does work. Sometimes it does infringe. No system is perfect but then doing nothing about a problem is WORST.

I have no worries though because current polls do not favor the DNC or liberal policies very well at all right now and Obama is loosing points on the big oil spill. Ts`e La` Vie!:banana:

See, sheet does roll down hill and I want to be out of the way when it rolls by me!

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Thu 05/13/10 12:59 PM

LA's "banning official travel" sounds more like Nazi Germany to me IMO. Telling American's not to go to other states???? Really??? How about let the Americans decide whether they want to boycott AZ themselves? If someone wants to boycott them, go for it. Otherwise, LA doesn't need to tell people where they can or can't go. Are they going to put trackers in the people in LA to make sure they stay out of AZ?slaphead



I dont think 'official' travel extends to personal travel. I think that would have been worded differently to state a ban on ALL travel(like when certain regions of the world are deemed dangerous).

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Thu 05/13/10 01:00 PM

I heard on a discussion last night that the law even allows citizens to racially profile folks too.

Takes this country back to the "good ole racists days". Sick.


Where did you hear this from? Reading your posts I already know you haven't read the law, nobody who is opposed to it has. The only way a persons immigration status can come into play is if they are stopped for some other reason like speeding, running a light etc. When asked for DL, proof of ins, and registration (or in the words of those using hate and fear mongering tactics) "papers" if the person cannot produce those then there is a problem. that is what happens now. The only difference is they don't have to wait for ICE to show up, they can handle it themselves. It sure is funny how some people are cattle, just follow the herd. Other states will follow Arizona's lead into the future and tell the limp dik feds to piss off "we'll handle it".

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Thu 05/13/10 01:02 PM



Furthermore if people feel the need to protest, perhaps a trip to Mexico (the catalyst for all this) and protest there. Tell Felipe to quit being a jackass crook and take care of his countrymen and women.

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Thu 05/13/10 01:03 PM


LA's "banning official travel" sounds more like Nazi Germany to me IMO. Telling American's not to go to other states???? Really??? How about let the Americans decide whether they want to boycott AZ themselves? If someone wants to boycott them, go for it. Otherwise, LA doesn't need to tell people where they can or can't go. Are they going to put trackers in the people in LA to make sure they stay out of AZ?slaphead



I dont think 'official' travel extends to personal travel. I think that would have been worded differently to state a ban on ALL travel(like when certain regions of the world are deemed dangerous).


so it's for business travel??? If so, then say someone does business with AZ or has a branch in AZ. Stopping the travel there would have an impact on the company...correct? So this would only hurt people.

If people want to boycott that state....that is there right to a peaceful protest. Otherwise, they shouldn't tell people where in the US they can't or can go, no matter what the reason for their travel is (well as long as it's legal lol)

I love AZ....Bisbee AZ is one of my all time favorite places to go

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Thu 05/13/10 01:08 PM
careful with the broad brushes


many people have read the bill and agree and many have read and disagree

I read the bill and disagreed with it until they changed the wording to ENSURE such inquiries into citizenship were only AFTER some other violation had occurred(this is much like me being asked for ID if I am stopped at a traffic light,, police knowing and recording who they have stopped is pretty standard),,,before it was vague enough to allow people to be stopped for THE REASON of suspicion of immigration status

Now, the bill seems logical to me although I do understand the continued discomfort with the idea of an officer being expected to 'suspect illegal immigration status' after stopping someone. I think the law should apply equally and just require proof of citizenship or legal reason to be in the states from EVERYONE , so that profiling isnt such a high possibility.

I still support the CURRENT bill because it seems logical, but I do understand the continued reluctance concerning the potential for profiling.

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Thu 05/13/10 01:12 PM



LA's "banning official travel" sounds more like Nazi Germany to me IMO. Telling American's not to go to other states???? Really??? How about let the Americans decide whether they want to boycott AZ themselves? If someone wants to boycott them, go for it. Otherwise, LA doesn't need to tell people where they can or can't go. Are they going to put trackers in the people in LA to make sure they stay out of AZ?slaphead



I dont think 'official' travel extends to personal travel. I think that would have been worded differently to state a ban on ALL travel(like when certain regions of the world are deemed dangerous).


so it's for business travel??? If so, then say someone does business with AZ or has a branch in AZ. Stopping the travel there would have an impact on the company...correct? So this would only hurt people.

If people want to boycott that state....that is there right to a peaceful protest. Otherwise, they shouldn't tell people where in the US they can't or can go, no matter what the reason for their travel is (well as long as it's legal lol)

I love AZ....Bisbee AZ is one of my all time favorite places to go



I think it refers to travel of government officials mostly,,,from the latimes...

"The resolution, which now heads to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, would still allow city officials to travel to Arizona under "special circumstances" that are in the city's interests. Also, existing contracts with Arizona firms would be exempt from the ban if canceling them would lead to "significant additional cost" to the city"

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Thu 05/13/10 01:13 PM
Oh that is different. I wouldn't lose sleep if the government of LA didn't come to Texas laugh

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Thu 05/13/10 01:14 PM




Furthermore if people feel the need to protest, perhaps a trip to Mexico (the catalyst for all this) and protest there. Tell Felipe to quit being a jackass crook and take care of his countrymen and women.



amen,, never understood,,,,,am I gonna change how things are done in my own home, or leave it be to travel to someone elses home and demand tHEY change?


more should be done to support and encourage those in Mexico to make Mexico the place they want it to be,,,

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Thu 05/13/10 01:14 PM

Oh that is different. I wouldn't lose sleep if the government of LA didn't come to Texas laugh


lol

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Thu 05/13/10 01:15 PM



LA's "banning official travel" sounds more like Nazi Germany to me IMO. Telling American's not to go to other states???? Really??? How about let the Americans decide whether they want to boycott AZ themselves? If someone wants to boycott them, go for it. Otherwise, LA doesn't need to tell people where they can or can't go. Are they going to put trackers in the people in LA to make sure they stay out of AZ?slaphead



I dont think 'official' travel extends to personal travel. I think that would have been worded differently to state a ban on ALL travel(like when certain regions of the world are deemed dangerous).


so it's for business travel??? If so, then say someone does business with AZ or has a branch in AZ. Stopping the travel there would have an impact on the company...correct? So this would only hurt people.

If people want to boycott that state....that is there right to a peaceful protest. Otherwise, they shouldn't tell people where in the US they can't or can go, no matter what the reason for their travel is (well as long as it's legal lol)

I love AZ....Bisbee AZ is one of my all time favorite places to go

Go incognito! If Ca. finds out you went there, they won't let you into Ca!scared scared

Californie is a joke. Land of the fruits and nuts.slaphead :angel:

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