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monoculture has to be done away with smaller comunities.permaculture
change in diet is vital ,it takes 50 times more energy to produce a meat based diet embrace new technology for energy for non polluting industry no more using the ocean as if it was a giant toilet bowl.hey i would get a calouse on my typing finger if i started sprouting every thing i knew we can do to fix every thing up and the answers are out there every where localize energy.deacativate all bombs a lotta energy there could be used to powwer a lota houses for a while |
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Hi
Im broke...wouldnt take long to catch up to me Fred |
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Good morning everyone (0655 local).....
Ummmmm, does anyone have some coffee? Following Lee's ruminations about the creation of Rumi Nations... Thinking over these threads and what they might teach us, it seems that FEAR is a core problem. Those who push the military/use-force and the self-sufficient/anti-interdependence points of view are all fearful. Fearful of 'them', 'the enemy', 'those who hate us', 'those who will attack us', 'those who will exploit us and rip us off.' The enemy may be Muslims, Iraqis, their own government, criminals, illegal immigrants, etc. It doesn't much matter: 'there is an enemy out there, and I fear him.' It is this fear that impels them to take on secondary points of view about fighting back, or militant defiance. Those who would seem to threaten efforts to 'fight the enemy' become secondary enemies -- people who would trick us into a false sense of security, people who don't see the threat, cowards who don't want to take on the enemy, people who won't fight the enemy until he is on our shores, intellectuals who will talk until it is too late, politicians who lie and only want to enrich themselves, liberals, idealists, naive people who think everyone is good, wimps who hate the use of even necessary force, hypocrites who enjoy security but won't fight for it. Thus the initial fear of an enemy creates first a hatred of the enemy, and then a secondary fear of and hatred for those who are perceived as not understanding the danger of the enemy, or getting in the way of fighting that enemy. And with these nested sets of fear, I think it must be near impossible for a person to think clearly. Bad conclusions are reached and bad actions are taken, bad in the sense that they are not congruent with the way the world really is, and bad in the sense that they are self-defeating, and bad in the sense that they cause massive harm to others. Of course, this fear does not stay cooped up inside the body. It ripples out. Actions are taken that produce fear in others, perhaps in the enemy and certainly in those who watch those actions aghast. And that consequential fear grows and leads others to actions that then threaten the original actor. Back and forth it goes, fear begetting fearful actions begetting further fear, until how it started and who are lost to the fog of history and clamor for vindication of those who acted. So perhaps Rumi-nations must address this core reality of FEAR. My way is that of a forensic political scientists and of a designer of solutions. As the forensist, I produce briefings and dissect the situation and explain why it happened and the role of its parts. As the designer I produce integrated whole-systems recommendations and help with the implementation of those recommendations. But in these extraordinary times what I do is obviously nowhere close to being enough. The exposition of facts and the provision of solutions is not sufficient to reduce that level of fear, in the same way that a phobic's fear is not dissipated by facts and logic. My way works well in environments where people are masters of their fears, where careful thinking is possible; it doesn't work well in environments where FEAR has become the pervasive and deeply-rooted norm, where panic has set in. Might Rumi-nations lead to addressing this FEAR, perhaps to soothing it, and to assuaging the emotional and psychological wounds that it produces, so freeing people up to understand their environments more realistically, more beneficially? Oceans |
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Coffee for you Oceans...and good morning to you..
Have we returned to page one of this thread? Which is where my thought processes first went, to understand fear as the motivator , and to then look at arresting the cycle...and addressing both real and perceived threats, in a non violent way? Fear is also a re-action to something not understood, which evolves into anger or violence...fear of the 'different', the unknown, (the perceived)... It is conditioning, at it's most basic level...conditioning within families, homes, communities, society. Fed and nurturing these fears, by the media, and all it's mediums, by even parents,...how many times do you hear parents threatening children, to modify their behaviours, using threats or 'boogeymen' type myths to manage poor behaviours? Our societies are littered with some of the most gruesome tales, wrapped up as fables, and fairytales, to motivate compliant behaviours through fear. Even many, or I will even go as far as saying most, religious texts use fear as a motivator for compliance..also by our very governments, and their puppets,...until it is a genetic conditioning...or at least a set of behaviours that are ingrained. |
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Fear has so many different faces.
We have to recognize all of them first before we can start working on them. |
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Good Morning ladies of the world.
I thought maybe tou might be interested in what the women in my area do. This is a section in the local paper here where I live. The Asheville Citizen Times. Take a look, and see what the men here have to deal with. LMAO http://miva.citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/miva?blogs+blog_id=girlsoutdoors |
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I don't get your point Fanta...
I miss it completely, women in a "women outdoors" blog type scenario, a light chat type of medium? What is to contend with? |
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Your highest source of energy is your own heart.Yet,the paradox is that
we are conditioned to protect our hearts,a behaviour motivated by fear.Our fears are communicated to us by thoughts and feelings.There can be no sustainable change in our experience of life unless we have the will to choose going for our hearts over resolving our thoughts and feelings.This is the 7th secret of MAGIC. |
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Its not a chat, jess its a section of the local paper called girls
outdoors. its filled with activities and interests of local women here. Check it out, I thought yall might enjoy seeing what women in other areas do. |
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OK, you could blog, LOL, but its full of articles!!
LMAO!!!! still its about women and the enviornment!! The world is not totaly lost. there are good things going on every where and women are involved!! Just thought you might find it interesting!! |
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I did, and I had a little giggle, as to what I know some of the other
women, here in the forums do with their time..and I what I do with mine...then looked at the type of conversations here... I still don't understand why it is something the men in your area have to put up with comment... |
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That was a light hearted male ego jab refering to the strong women here
and what men have to deal with! |
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I didnt want to talk about war and killing today and I thought, with all
these posts about women and their roles in the world you might be interested in what women in other places think of. I can see it wasnt enjoyed by you, but I tried.... |
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Just found this thread and laughed my arse off. You people will believe
anything. |
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so peekaboo who the fuk are you?
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I missed your last post, Fanta, thankyou, and yes it was
interesting.. Much appreciated.. |
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as women and mothers, from the cradle WE are creating the ambiance of
our nests, we will raise our daughters with empowerment and our sons with temperance and generosity, and we will consciously be reminded of what designs our honest natures and cultivate those characteristics with balance and proportion. as humans we are bound to do what we do , however, the mind as it becomes intelligent is like a computer, able to solve more and more complex issues, this program we have running concerning defense and power is like some kids beta program full of sensational graphics and action , a real thriller, great for hollywood, but fundamentally unsuitable to be a major runner in the system software ... actually it slows the system down and has trojan horses that cancel out other important files...and at the end ,proves to be only a horrible waste of time trying to get it all out of the hard drive. delete...file on external hardrive for reference. next. if only... as for jobs? the imagination is wide open..we have alot to develope and produce and change quickly to make this planet free of the need to burn fossile fuel. medicine is screaming use the HUGE bank roll to house the homeless ..train and hire crews..come back to attending the real needs of evolving communities, transportation....there are a gazillion jobs but the budget is gone people. it's feeding a global monster...weapons we teach our children what to be afraid of and why. the media feeds them, their cartoons depict the muslim as a bad guy...a whole concept of what the enemy was , exploded and every little boy and some girls wanted to rise up and be their favorite hero and vanquish the enemy! and children looked at the ethnicity and identified that with 'suspicion' we collectively , as mothers, when our children came home with stories, got together and did and integration program of cultural arts amoung the different groups we have here in amsterdam, which are many, and we quickly put out a possible fire. we difused the sensationalized image of osama, and returned our community again into the integrated and colorfully strong fabric of social life that we all share. this happened in many villages and cities. what if we had just let it be? our children would have solidified their ideas and invested in them and would breed discrimination and fear everywhere. we educate our children if we are too lazy it will show up in the future. do we blindly allow them to simply absorb anything that they want? um not last i checked... rather than being manipulated by capitalism, isn't it more logical that the consumer CHOOSE what influences their preferences? is it acceptable just because it makes money? if someone or something seduces your child into harms way ...what will you DO ABOUT IT? buckle under the weight and show them what alcoholism looks like , or eating disorders? show them that they can make these illogical choices and still survive? how? with what result? that they end up taking care of you as you die from the deteriorization of your own will and self respect. how many children are growing up in these kinds of environments trapped by the limitations of their parents from ever realizing their AUTHENTIC SELVES. as as far as having a violent outlet for our violent natures well we have the capacity to channel that , and use discernment,rational thinking, commitment to justice with integrity and morality...yes we have this!! . and indeed marshall arts, is a very good avenue to dicipline and train the body mind and spirit to feel protected on all levels....not to mention a million other possibilities. that are proportionate and balanced and effective in fullfilling that expression. if we have fight a war then do it within the contexts of sanctions arrived at by a governing body composed of many parties and the focus of these parties is not for the furthuring of corporate business or the aims of these neocons, but the evolution of our specis as a jewel in the universe blessed with tools beyond imagination and technology fast catching up to meet it's curiosity and tenacity to progress. heal our wounds and we are bleeding. rather than a draft or service in a military function let it be each individuals contribution with investing themselves as civil servants in communities ...re arrange the focus of attention from defense with a gun to providing security by removing poverty ...your american urban poverty is a disgrace from a country that boasts such valor and righteousness. and many countries are guilty of this. so, so what that your taxes are going to someone you see as a 'failure' a 'looser' a 'leech' or even an illegal immigrant! so what! it's better in the BIG PICTURE with the way things look right now, the money going into this IMMENSE machine...just to exploit your children into their game. you must know that there are strategies for this. projects lose funding, politics put in place for social intervention, become overloaded, budgets don't meet demands or needs, tension builds , a climate of oppression is created just in time for the recruitment officers to come in and sweep the area and offer these young boys and girls a possibility for a way out. a way out of the trap they were set up to fall in in the first place, oh don't be shocked.... well if they can do it we can do it. let their 'service to their country' be to participate and have the opportunity to present their ideas about how they would like to see their community evolve , like jury duty but , each family member has a chance to be apart of the governing board and be an instrument for the cause of human rights and a new constitution that embraces the Patriarchal and Matriarchal roles of what THIS culture needs to balance and heal . the enlisted service person would then be posted to duty in the area appropriate to their training. there can still be a navy and even an airforce but to be used for support rather than defense, THE MISSION ,...aid .Human Rights and sustainable development in an ecological and responsible way. believe me....it is just a huge and diverse an enterprise as the corrupt machine we are investing in now.... this is where we need one of those Matrix dimension leaps...lol ok hold on ! everybody ...shift ha ha so where's the money? this brings us to a point Davinci brought up about the actual legality of income tax.... $hit it's like giving your kid the money to buy his fix... what would happen if this information about fed reserve and all this money you all pump into their pockets..what if it catches fire? it should as far as i can tell...there should be a system in place to redirect all those monies into the educational and healthcare systems of the people they are from., all infrastructure services would be diverted to a different central bank that was governed by the elected reps, etc....people that have to be accountable and transparent. women will play a huge role in dominating the revival of values and morality and cultural norms and designing thru community support a climate that puts a lid on weapons. if the US is still too attached to it's military then let them be trained and used as teachers and symbols of excellence to be used with utmost care and respect to what they are capable of. and only by a 'real consenses' does the country ever resort to employ them. so i've been bouncing thru these paragraphs between guests and farmers mkt and loading and unloading....i have no idea anymore if it has any continuity...could be i'm raving of course i am! global disarmament....sheesh what am i thinking |
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Alex,
I resemble so much in that post, that, I have no doubt I was cussed two or three different times! LMAO. I believe we all were.. lock stock and barrel, did you think about that for awhile?? Has it been a long day? |
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it's almost 8pm and the sun is blazing high in the sky. we had a hot day
unusual for so early in june. it's been relaxed and very easy just hectic in moments... all i know is that i love these long hot summer nights when twilight seeps into the torquoise and the day melts into the shades of indigo and rose |
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LMAO!!!
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