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I've never been a fan of his. I have danced to his music but not really a fan. But I won't condemn someone of a crime like that without proof...not to mention the accusers and their parents were suspicious
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Ain't it funny how this thread slowly just kinda faded away....  yep
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Just in the four days since Jackson's death, Jordan Chandler has admitted that he lied, and that Jackson never molested him. It has also been revealed that Chandler's father, Evan, a registered dentist, was forced to admit to giving his son sodium amytol during an extraction of his son's tooth, a drug known to make the recipient extremely suceptible to suggestion. It is not a so-called "truth serum", as it's so commonly referred to. Evan Chandler was also tape-recorded in a conversation, stating: "I picked the nastiest son of a ***** I could find [Evan Chandler's lawyer, Barry Rothman], all he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's smart and he's hungry for publicity. Everything's going to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. I've given him full authority to do that. Jackson is an evil guy, he is worse than that and I have the evidence to prove it. If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over."
In the same conversation, when asked how this may affect his son, Chandler said: "That's irrelevant to me...It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. It's going to be bigger than all us put together...This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief...He will not sell one more record".
The recorded conversation was a critical aspect of Jackson's defense against the upcoming allegation made against him. He and his supporters argue that he was the victim of a jealous father whose only goal was to extort money from the singer. The police then began an investigation into Evan Chandlers's prior actions and found that he was $68,400 behind in his child support payments, even though he was well-paid as a dentist. Two tabloid television shows accepted confidential leaked documents from the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services for $20,000. A number of Jackson's former employees—most of whom had worked at his ranch—sold stories to the tabloids of alleged prior sexual misconduct on Jackson's part, instead of reporting their claims to police. One couple initially asked for $100,000 claiming that Jackson sexually caressed Macaulay Culkin. They were prepared to expand upon this allegation for a fee of $500,000, whereby they would allege that Jackson put his hands down Culkin's pants. When the story broke, Culkin strongly denied the allegation, and did so again in court. A former security guard made various allegations about Jackson, saying he was fired because he "knew too much", and alleged that he was ordered by Jackson to destroy a photo of a naked boy. Instead of reporting this to police, Hard Copy accepted the story in return for $150,000. Afterwards, Jackson's maid, Branca Francia, alleged that she "quit in disgust" after seeing Jackson in a shower with a child, but did not inform the police. It later emerged that Francia was actually fired in 1991, but nevertheless sold her story to Hard Copy for $20,000.
By January 1, 1994, $2 million had been spent by prosecution departments in California, two Grand Juries had questioned two hundred witnesses, but Jordan's allegations could not be corroborated. Jordan refused to testify in a criminal trial, neither the police nor the Grand Jury pressed criminal charges, citing a lack of evidence, Jackson was not charged with a crime. Three years later Jordan Chandler's alleged account of the relationship was detailed in a book by journalist Victor M Gutierrez. The book was said to be based on a diary the boy had kept at the time and included details of alleged sexual encounters between Jackson and himself. In 1996, Evan Chandler sued Jackson for around $60 million, claiming Jackson had breached an agreement never to discuss the case. In 1999, a court ruled in Jackson's favor and threw out the lawsuit. Today, Jordan Chandler is in his late twenties living in a $2.35 million home in Long Island under an assumed name. He and his family also own a high-rise apartment in Manhattan and a condominium in Santa Barbara. Jordan Chandler and Jackson never spoke to each other again; he received his last installment from Jackson in June 1999. They ruined a man's life. 
Something should be done about this.  Mirror suggested that they pay the money back to MJ's children. I like that idea. There's also the perjury, harassment, and slander issues.
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Ain't it funny how this thread slowly just kinda faded away.... I agree, but then nobody responded to my post either. How do we know Jordy isnt lying this time? I can see why he might be, or that someone could have could have coersed him into saying it. First and foremost i would like to know how he acurately described MJ's manhood, has he made any statements on this? |
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Ain't it funny how this thread slowly just kinda faded away.... I agree, but then nobody responded to my post either. How do we know Jordy isnt lying this time? I can see why he might be, or that someone could have could have coersed him into saying it. First and foremost i would like to know how he acurately described MJ's manhood, has he made any statements on this? As far as I know...it was never disclosed as to whether he descibed it or not. I mean my gosh....how different are they anyway? A thingy is a thingy...some a little bigger, some a little smaller. Otherwise pretty much the same. All I rememeber them saying is he "described it", never that he was correct. Didn't Michael let them look? Wouldn't think he would if he was scared. Hell, I could describe it....would that mean anything really?? Kat |
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 To quote Phil Collins "I don't care anymore". Wacko Jacko is dead and The World is still turning. Media and Internet coverage has become boorish,let's move on. Here endeth the lesson. be seeing you
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Ain't it funny how this thread slowly just kinda faded away.... I agree, but then nobody responded to my post either. How do we know Jordy isnt lying this time? I can see why he might be, or that someone could have could have coersed him into saying it. First and foremost i would like to know how he acurately described MJ's manhood, has he made any statements on this? As far as I know...it was never disclosed as to whether he descibed it or not. I mean my gosh....how different are they anyway? A thingy is a thingy...some a little bigger, some a little smaller. Otherwise pretty much the same. All I rememeber them saying is he "described it", never that he was correct. Didn't Michael let them look? Wouldn't think he would if he was scared. Hell, I could describe it....would that mean anything really?? Kat Well apparantly there was a birth mark on it. I think i have heard that he described it correctly. I might be wrong. Just like you wont accept the accusations against MJ, you shouldnt just assume this information is true either. Otherwise all you are doing is picking out the information that suits your own theory. |
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 sorry,forgot to add one thing. Wacko Jacko DID say in an interview that he thought it was alright for an adult to sleep in the same bed with a child. If you are OK with that,you are probably not the type of person i would want to associate with. be seeing you
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I agree, but then nobody responded to my post either. How do we know Jordy isnt lying this time? I can see why he might be, or that someone could have could have coersed him into saying it. First and foremost i would like to know how he acurately described MJ's manhood, has he made any statements on this? I had read somewhere (and I cannot find it anywhere right now either, sorry about that) that one of the people who had worked with Micheal had given information that would only be known if someone saw MJ naked about his private areas. The article had talked about how Jordy's father had paid him for this information to make it seem more legit. I know that in all of the stories, the truth lies somewhere... I, personally, feel that Michael was almost, if not partially, living in a delusional state. I believe that he did not want to become an adult at all. Many adults in his life did not treat him well, and I honestly think that he may have had a Dissociative Disorder. If you think about it, it is really more fun to be with a bunch of children. I can remember when my children were young and I would come home from being around adults all day...what a relief it was to be able to play with them, color with them, or just talk silly with them. He reminds me of someone who has Aspergers', someone who is not really aware of socially appropriate behavior. Being on stage and singing and dancing is much different than interacting one on one with an adult. so, now that I have posted in this thread, the topic has probably changed... 
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 Just because a person is odd or different doesn't mean they are a pedophile
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sorry,forgot to add one thing. Wacko Jacko DID say in an interview that he thought it was alright for an adult to sleep in the same bed with a child. If you are OK with that,you are probably not the type of person i would want to associate with. be seeing you
Yes, that was in the Martin Bashir interview. That was the moment i decided he was most likely a proper pedo. If a 43 year old man(which i think he was at the time) thinks its normal to do that, what else does he think its normal to do with them? |
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Just because a person is odd or different doesn't mean they are a pedophile
this is true weird does not make anyone anything other than normal in weird sorta way 
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I agree, but then nobody responded to my post either. How do we know Jordy isnt lying this time? I can see why he might be, or that someone could have could have coersed him into saying it. First and foremost i would like to know how he acurately described MJ's manhood, has he made any statements on this? I had read somewhere (and I cannot find it anywhere right now either, sorry about that) that one of the people who had worked with Micheal had given information that would only be known if someone saw MJ naked about his private areas. The article had talked about how Jordy's father had paid him for this information to make it seem more legit. I know that in all of the stories, the truth lies somewhere... I, personally, feel that Michael was almost, if not partially, living in a delusional state. I believe that he did not want to become an adult at all. Many adults in his life did not treat him well, and I honestly think that he may have had a Dissociative Disorder. If you think about it, it is really more fun to be with a bunch of children. I can remember when my children were young and I would come home from being around adults all day...what a relief it was to be able to play with them, color with them, or just talk silly with them. He reminds me of someone who has Aspergers', someone who is not really aware of socially appropriate behavior. Being on stage and singing and dancing is much different than interacting one on one with an adult. so, now that I have posted in this thread, the topic has probably changed...
The topic is still the same! I do not doubt for a second that MJ had some kind of mental issue going on. If he did actually abise any kids, i am sure his condition(s) were the cause of it. Of course we cant start allowing any such condition to be a viable excuse though, or allow his upbringing to be any excuse. Otherwise every pedophile could be excused as well. I dont think we will ever know for sure if he did it or not. My theory that he did hasnt been changed yet. |
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Edited by
prisoner
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Tue 06/30/09 12:16 PM
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 correct Dan99,it was the Martin Bashir interview. Imagine if a 40-something man posted that he thought it was ok for an adult to sleep in the same bed as a child. Do you think members of this site would tolerate it? How about The Mods and Admin? I doubt it,because it's wrong. I rest my case. be seeing you
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correct Dan99,it was the Martin Bashir interview. Imagine if a 40-something man posted that he thought it was ok for an adult to slep in the same bed as a child. Do you think members of this site would tolerate it? How about The Mods and Admin? I doubt it,because it's wrong. I rest my case. be seeing you
to me...it says a lot more about any parent that let's it happen |
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correct Dan99,it was the Martin Bashir interview. Imagine if a 40-something man posted that he thought it was ok for an adult to slep in the same bed as a child. Do you think members of this site would tolerate it? How about The Mods and Admin? I doubt it,because it's wrong. I rest my case. be seeing you
to me...it says a lot more about any parent that let's it happen It does say a lot about the parents, but really it says a lot more about the man who is doing the sleeping with the kids. |
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correct Dan99,it was the Martin Bashir interview. Imagine if a 40-something man posted that he thought it was ok for an adult to sleep in the same bed as a child. Do you think members of this site would tolerate it? How about The Mods and Admin? I doubt it,because it's wrong. I rest my case. be seeing you
Nobody is saying that isn't inappropriate, but a pedophile that does not make
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 I just heard that Debbie Rowe isnt the mother of the oldest 2 kids.
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correct Dan99,it was the Martin Bashir interview. Imagine if a 40-something man posted that he thought it was ok for an adult to slep in the same bed as a child. Do you think members of this site would tolerate it? How about The Mods and Admin? I doubt it,because it's wrong. I rest my case. be seeing you
to me...it says a lot more about any parent that let's it happen It does say a lot about the parents, but really it says a lot more about the man who is doing the sleeping with the kids. oh I will never say MJ is "normal" I believe he had mental problems. Not going to go as far as say he molested though either. but my problem is...the parents are responsible for the kids. the parents are supposed to protect them and look out for them. why would they willingly allow this? |
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correct Dan99,it was the Martin Bashir interview. Imagine if a 40-something man posted that he thought it was ok for an adult to sleep in the same bed as a child. Do you think members of this site would tolerate it? How about The Mods and Admin? I doubt it,because it's wrong. I rest my case. be seeing you
That interview was on TV last night. I watched it again. Yes, his beliefs about that are very strange. I really believe that he had some kind of mental issue that makes him like a child. It's actually sad to me. |
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