If this were true then wouldn't Canada and all those socialist European Countries have high crime rates, especially homicide rates too, since they have more "entitlement" programs? And they don't, they tend to have much lower homicide rates than the US.

But if you look at countries around the world the more homogeneous populations tend to have lower homicide rates. It probably also has to due with the historical context of a country. Japan has a very low crime rate. Part of this is because they view a dishonorable act by one person to be dishonorable to the country and especially to their family name. They do not value individuality the same as americans do. That in itself is a very socialist mentality.

Most of the crime in inner cities is committed by black americans so to understand it, we have to look at their history. Some cite the fact that black americans in previous years committed fewer crimes than in more recent ones as evidence that it is the fault of the entitlement programs. What they discount is that they had to walk on egg shells in the past just to survive and not get lynched up or beaten down. I doubt ending these programs would really reduce rates (and may increase the rate of violence), there a resentment that lies there, which is understandable considering how relatively recent the Civil Rights movement occurred. I think people forget just how recent it was that they were segregated into schools (I'll bet those schools weren't as good as the ones white people went to). People without hope for a better future tend to live in a manner where they don't consider consequences of their actions. I don't have the answers but I'm sure that it's more complex than just having welfare.

I believe that the key is to truly be an equal society. From a legal sense they have that, as it is illegal to discriminate. But there is a generational poverty and a generational ignorance that continues to cycle. If 18% of our population is black, why isn't 18% of executives, or upper class citizens black? There is also a break down of the family unit that has exacerbated this issue, kids having kids so to speak. So I believe a more important question to ask is how to break the generational poverty and ignorance that afflicts this segment of our population.

This was a very nice analogy but not correct at some levels. Inner city crime rates by race depend on the minority race that is the majority in that are, it is not specifically black. Second the issue within the black communities date all the way back to slavery and the oppression they are still enduring here is this country. As the oppression and discrimination ends towards them they will be able to address the issues within their families and communities.

Social programs have no influence on these problems one way or the other.

A countries richness is not weighed on the amount of rich there but on how well it takes care of it's elderly, poor and disabled.

We are a rich nation and have no excuse not to provide help and a hand up for those who cannot or were knocked down in life.

I disagree. My observation is, that putting anyone on welfare , regardless of color will not help whatsoever, but does the reverse effect. Right now, Obama is creating a welfare country out of USA. Can't find a job, instead of jobs, the people are offered government handouts. One way or another, it has to come out of someone's pocket, if not this generation, maybe the next or the one after.
Someone is gonna get pissed off paying for someone else and it's never right.
Now as the unemployment rising rapidly, more and more people going on special programs and the government is trying with various aid and so on, instead of creating an environment for businesses to be confindent to do business , thus making more jobs.
The government does not have to make jobs..that's wrong. The government's job is to make the laws and regulations favorable for businesses to create jobs.

On the other hand, giving people advantages one over another is the worst racism ever, let it be one way or another. And regarding special treatment based on color is even worse, since who is the government to decide who is black or white...what about those who are both? Everyone is an individual regardless of race and color and everybody is responsible for him or herself. Deciding over who is black or white and grouping them or make them feel like they belong to a special group and applying different laws or giving them advantage or disadvantage is the real racism.

I would agree with your statements if everybody started at the same starting point. Nobody was complaining when there were quotas applied for white women going to college. They used to not have the opportunities for college and were passed over for executive positions (they still are). Now women finish college at a higher rate then men and they still don't make up an equal percentage of execs.

Again, if the percentage of the population that is black is 18% then why isn't 18% of white collar jobs filled by black people, why aren't 18% of college grads black? Either you're saying they can't do it, or there are social factors.

Blatant racism like lynch mobs and buring crosses on lawns is now illegal and for the most part very unpopular but the insidious effects of past racism still permeates through a generational effect.

Chris Rock said it best "no white guy wants to be me and I'm rich". The only way for someone white to really feel what racism feels like is to go to jail. I'm not saying people even do it on purpose there is a subconscious component.

People who are viewed more attractive will get a job over someone less (there are studies on this) even if their skill set is equivalent. White bosses are more likely to select white candidates for jobs even when they don't consider themselves racist (people subconsciously prefer people who look more like them), black bosses do the same...but the vast majority of bosses are white because there was a time in our history when we didn't allow them to attend college.

There are 117 colleges in D1 football. 46% of the athletes are black. There are 4 black head coaches. SO blacks can run and catch and play the game, but they can't do the stuff that requires more brains? Before the Rooney Rule, the NFL used to be just as bad but guess, what, once they were at least given an opportunity to get an interview and the numbers rose and they were more successful.

You may have your observations, but the real world numbers simply don't show them to be true.

Good point, Geek.

How many applicants for college are minortiy status, either black, asian, women or any other considerd minority? I do not know the answer, I was just asking for those that might know.. I stated before that I don't beleive that pouring money into broken projects are the answer to overcoming our problems in the inner cities, if that were the case, we would have shining examples in our inner cities to show the world since we have poured billions of dollars into our urban centers.. But we don't, just like our broken education systems, we waste more money thinking that if we continue to feed a problem, it will go away,but just like anything else, is just becomes a bigger problem