Awful mild on Bush ain't ya, he was worse than not doing so hot. Frankly we have a ways to go before we know how BHO will actually do. But again those that don't like him speak more here than those that do, which leaves the impression the man can't do anything right.

I don't like everything I am hearing but the problem is that I have to sort through the bs to get to any real information.

Actually the economy has been going down since Clinton's 2nd term and accelerated by 9/11 and the oil pinch. Bush slowed it dramatically, but Obama put it into a nose dive, the ensuing crash should be interesting.

I just want to point out that my comments are in regards to republican politicians and not republican voters.I used to be conservative but got let down tremendously when I seen America get wrecked,and then I went to college and got liberalized.I admit that a lot of what the republican party sells sounds good (on a bumper sticker).But when you put it into practice it is actually cruel and deceitful.Its an excuse to hurt people in need ,and to exclude those who dont fit with their plans.I cant think of anything more satanic than that.I proudly admit that i am a liberal.Im not an "independent". I also respect those who openly admit what they truly are instead of saying they are "independent". Pick a side! I respect Gio for picking a side like I have and sticking to it.

Largely agree, Mirror. And would like add to that the "they're all crooks" and the "all politicians suck" crowd are largely just avoiding any serious thought about who they should vote for or what policies they should support. An easy cop out. Less stress on the gray matter.

For the record, I am a life long Democrat in the moderate to liberal range.

You been having those bad dreams again?

Why in the world should I pick a side when both side are so obviously wrong? For the most part both are run by crooked politician hell bent only one thing, getting re-elected.

You vote party line if you so choose, that is your right. But I prefer to vote for the best man no matter what party he belongs to dem, rep, green, independent, doesn't matter. If we as a people did more of that we'd probably have a better selection from which to choose from.

We got 2 "baseball teams" on the field,not three. And I am comfortable with my team.This country has always had a liberal and a conservative faction but just with different names. I understand the sentiment of what you are saying but I still dont see any real viable options for other parties considering they always end up being either conservative or liberal.Its just another name change

Why in the world should I pick a side when both side are so obviously wrong? For the most part both are run by crooked politician hell bent only one thing, getting re-elected.

You vote party line if you so choose, that is your right. But I prefer to vote for the best man no matter what party he belongs to dem, rep, green, independent, doesn't matter. If we as a people did more of that we'd probably have a better selection from which to choose from.

Fortunately not, we have quite a few teams they just are being bullied off the field by some very dishonest players. Fortunately that too is changing though much too slowly.

I actually believe in democratic liberalism. Lock,stock,and barrel.I would rather be inclusive than exclusive.I also see democratic values benefiting people like me, and people in general, more so than conservative values.I know which side of my bread is buttered.Thats the way I see it Davey

If either party actually stuck to the ideals and ideologies they profess I might agree at least in principle. But the simple facts are neither party does that. For both of those parties it's about getting re-elected and remaining in power. period. Sad fact is because of the way our political system is setup it will always be that way to some degree. So unless we vote with our own minds and do our best to choose which ever candidate is most likely to do the best job, regardless of party affiliation, we will continue to get this cyclic BS back and forth between ultra-liberal and ultra-conservative that doesn't do anyone any good.

The economy has been destroyed before Obama got in office. Whether or not he is fixing it or breaking it, I don't know. We'll see it by the end of the year.

I don't know if we'll even know it by then. So far they aren't spending the stimulus money at the speed they were suppose to if they don't spend it quickly it won't do much good and what little good it does do won't come till much later.
So far they've only spent 54 billion of the stimulus money while that may sound like a lot of money to you and I, it's a drop in the bucket when talking about jump starting the US economy.

I vote according to the philosphy and not the candidate.I would rather err on the side of inclusivness than exclusivness. But I appreciate the sentiment of what you are saying Davey

Right.

Just like the economy going down hill was a long time coming so will the recovery be. The stimulus is suppose to help the recovery happen faster but it sure doesn't seem to be as easy as they thought it would be making people spend....lol

I would rather vote for who I think is best suited and NOT what party they belong to. I don't care about the parties....but what that person will do for the country. I might vote dem one time then rep the other. I'm not blind and believe just because someone tells me something it must be so....regardless of who they are.

In a democratic republic all parties inevitably lean towards conservatism or liberalism. So its just a name change.