Sojourning_Soul, some people are just too stuck in their paradigm and are quite comfortable in the “reality” that they have. Scientific facts be damned. The only conspiracy ( CONS PIRACY) going on is the one that said that the fire from the impact melted enough of the steel frame of the building to cause it to pancake down, in a perfect straight drop, at free fall speed, causing both towers to pulverize into debris conveniently no longer than a flat bed 18 wheeler, so that the U.S. government to clean it up and send it off to a foreign country to be destroyed, before a proper scientific analysis of the evidence could be obtained.

And to whom posted the video link for the jet that was testing the reinforced concrete for nuclear power plants… this is comparing apples to oranges. With all due respect, the planes where not filled with the same type of fuel, where not at the same air speed, did not hit anything even remotely close to the same type of structure, was not even remotely close to the same dimensions, and has no more relevance to the topic then a video of two puppies fighting over a Frisbee.

And to the one who posted the “obvious” wing section from the YouTube video. Funny out of all the camera angles and video surveillance of that area, the one used as “proof” is a grainy, out of focus, out of relevant frame distance shot that happens to have an anomaly in it that in reality doesn’t show us a thing. Where are all the rest of the videos?
Seems like the pentagon thing could be put to rest very easily, if it were truly “that easy”.

And to our British brother, you are right, screwed up things happen daily and thousands die, so in that narrow and simplistic view the events of that day are forgettable. The problem with that approach is that the events of that day have not stopped. They are impacting our lives, and your life, everyday. Your tomorrow is being created from that moment. Your laws are being manipulated and changed right under your nose because of that catalytic event. Your brothers and sisters are dying TODAY still because of that. And more will die tomorrow in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and soon to come (hear the sabers rattling) N. Korea, Iran. How hard is it for anyone to see who “benefitted” from the events of that day? Was it really the “terrorists”??? NO, I submit to you it was the globalist terrorist high jacks of the worlds governments who are benefitting from the ignorance of the sheeple.

How hard is it for you to understand that it is scientifically impossible for the government story to be true??? How ignorant to physics must you be to believe that the fire was so hot it melted steel I beams, yet 50 yards ABOVE (umm doesn’t heat rise??) there are living breathing people looking out the smoldering windows. I guess their melting point is higher than steel.

Hmmm.

• 1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron
• ~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel
• ~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)
Guess those damn terrorist didn’t give a rats behind about the laws of physics. They straight high jacked the laws of nature along with that plane! Who’da thunk box cutters where that powerful!!!
And what a great choice our sovereign nation choose to clean up the mess:
“ On September 22, 2001 The City's Department of Design and Construction accepted a plan from Controlled Demolition Incorporated to remove and recycle the steel from the World Trade Center. Although vicims' families and fire safety experts decried the rapid removal of remains and recycling of steel Mayor Bloomberg defended the operation.”
Well, what sets this company apart as the one worthy of such a task? Hmmm.
I understand how scary it is to wake, only to find it is not a nightmare. I understand it is so much easier to tuck your head back in the sand so that you feel “safe”. You climb back into your little 4 walled box and watch you 24 hour brain washing devices and so long as no one “directly” effects your little creature comforts you would rather “get over it”.
What perfect little sheep we have. And very disserving of the judgments to come.

Yes, I have. I saw a lady interviewed on CNN the day after whose husband had called her from Flight 77 to inform her of the impending doom just prior to impact. Plus, there is video of the crash on several sites ... CNN included.

That said, just for levity, let me offer these points of reference for your consideration:

Bill Clinton couldn't get a BJ without being busted.

Mr. Cheney couldn't shoot his lawyer buddy - on private property - without getting exposed.

Gov Rod of Illinois couldn't sell Obama's Senate seat without being indicted.

The Speaker of the House in Florida couldn't sneak an airplane hangar for his buddy into the budget at the last minute (despite that he was the only one to see the final budget before signing it over to the Governor) without being caught red-handed.

Britney Spears can't go sans underwear without showing up on TMZ.

All these things - in addition to ever-increasing media attention/scrutiny of government, cell phone cameras, the internet and satellite imagery in a high tech society - can be uncovered for you and I; yet, you honestly believe the conspiracy to end all conspiracies can be folded up neatly and pulled off before the entire world without a hitch?

And not a solitary soul as part of the thousands upon thousands who would need to be privy to the plot has slipped up, misstepped or misspoken?

Really?

Does an unsolved murder of thousands matter? I would like to think so

Is it unsolved or is it that you just don't believe, don't accept, don't want to see the information given/supplied to you?

We all chose what we believe in.

video of what I would ask?

Where is flight 77? then....did it land? or is it still flying 7.5 years later?????

I certainly hope there was scheduled meal service or some of the passengers may be grumpy by now.

Brittney, Rod, the speaker of the house in Fl..... can they make you and your family disappear without a trace, lock you up in prison without due process, torture you and get away with it, declare 2 wars dispite a world of protest?

I don't think so

Please, you tell me. I assure you it didn't hit the Pentagon. The pure and simple fact is planes don't disintigrate! The engines are 6 tons of titanium steel alloy and there were 2 of them. Ever play "rock, hammer, scissors"? I think titanium beats concrete.... at least the last time I checked.

Cheney can and did all those things.

Yet we knew about it all now didn't we?

SO, even if the gov't pulled it off, we'd know about this more elaborate scheme, no?

Has your building been checked for radon lately? (I'm kidding partner ... but your theory is pretty far-fetched.)

The only way you, personally, can assure me of this is...
if you were standing in the pentagon's parking lot on that day!!!!!

Were you????

Why should I accept the fact that you assure me it didn't hit the Pentagon over someone else who I may think is more knowledgeable???






Just kidding

we can all put doubt in one another's head, I just don't see it as productive (jmo)

I was not, therefore I have questions with no answers.

One simple fact, 2 6 ton titanium engines don't "disappear" as those at the Pentagon seem to have done. It would have been very simple to release photos of them as proof, why haven't they?

No matter how bad an airplane crash has ever been, the engines always remain nearly completely intact aside form the housings encasing them. There would be NO mistaking them, they are HUGE! They have blown up and remained intact. There were a LOT of firsts and miracles on 9/11. It seems God or Allah was on Al Quedas side that day if they did it, destroying completely all the evidence.

The Pentagon doesn't typically hand out photos of its structure; nor did it have anything to "prove" by releasing photos. Only de facto conspiracists have made this an issue.

What, in your opinion, would be the purpose of such a cover-up?

And where are the pics of the WTC planes' engines? I haven't seen them either. Does that mean those attacks didn't happen as well? Was the building rigged?

Is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad actually running this country and we don't know it? Is Osama the Postmaster General?

Please don't misunderstand my intent here fran.... I don't know what happened, I only have questions and am a skeptic on some of the points made on 9/11.

I don't mind differing opinions, I welcome them. I respect everyone who posts their opinions or beliefs.

There are still questions as to how and who or there would not be so many posts, or such interest to this topic.

I will not regret my skeptisism, nor condemn anothers belief, I only have questions. My reasoning is this simple, some things just don't add up.

BHO did it

We saw the planes hit the towers. The question people ask there is if they were commercial flights or not, and whether simple low heat fires that only burn for an hour can cause 2 such buildings to fall as they did in under an hour when it has never happened before in history. That is another topic for debate, we are talking about the Pentagon.

The purpose might be to promote wars securing the worlds depleting oil supplies...... but that would be an assumption, and I am asking for facts.

A plane is made of aluminum 0.02-0.04" thick. Refinforced concrete kicks it butt any time

Oh I was trying to drop a little humor here and like you show another side.

The whole 9/11 thing sucks big time, innocent lives were destroyed.

There are still many questions, many that have been answered, many that have not, such is life. However, even if we were supplied with all the knowledge and information we seek, there will always be someone or a group that will want more. We are just unsatisfiable in our quest for knowledge and understanding.

Of course he did.

I believe the anti BHOs have pretty much blamed him for everything that has happened bad in these here United States since the incept of the country.

So may as well blame him for this too.

The thing about the conspiracies is that they don't have the purpose of the conspiracy down before they create the conspiracy.

What would be the purpose in lying about a plane hitting the pentagon?

We all saw the planes hit in New York. The pentagon was just a side line to that event, right?