So I'm the Grinch becuase I think if something is real then it can be explored objectively, and when its found to be either so marginal as to be non existent to call it so is being a Grinch . . .

What I think is funny is that people are willing to use and take advantage of scientific achievements such as fertilizer, but then poo poo scientists for thinking the only way that yields results such as this.

A very childish perspective.

Does your energy include plant food and water?

I think the idea that an objective data gathering mindset is a bad thing is very archaic and should be relegated to the waste bin of human paradigms.

Its not like you have to abandon any sense of the mystic, just don't apply it to performance analysis and expect to be looked at as objective and rational.

If you want to know what conditions will increase the health of a plant then you can use the scientific method, control groups experimental groups and various testing to track your variables and KNOW what is going on to a degree based on the rigor of your testing methods.

To poo poo this is to poo poo ALL modern discoveries, perhaps all discoveries that are not easily apparent modern or otherwise.

Childish in the extreme.

I know about a guy (ahead of his time) who invented a device that can train the skin to hear sounds.

This device costs about $1500.00 last time I checked. When he presented his patent to the government they would not accept it because they did not believe him and they did not believe his device could possibly work.

It was designed to place music, or voices from a tape directly into the center of the brain's perception without the use of ears or hearing ability.

So he had to go to Washington and conduct an experiment to prove to them that his device worked. They used a deaf person as their subject and attached the device to him somewhere, maybe the head. This deaf person did hear at one time in his life. He hadlost his hearing very young.

After a while (about two hours) the man began to hear music in his head. It was classical music. He had not heard that for years.

This man was totally deaf. His gray brain matter adjusted itself so that it could interpret those vibrations. This device is used for sleep learning. It puts information directly into your brain.

Royal Body care used to sell the device, I don't know if they still do.

Yes I believe sounds can effect any living thing. Possibly creatures develop (evolve) sensory organs for the purpose of interpretation their environment. If there were no sound waves, there would be no reason to evolve ears.

Creatures living in total darkness in caves, don't have eyes either. They don't need them.

Creatures evolve sensory organs and abilities according to their environment. If you put a human in an environment with no gravity like space, eventually they would not need their skeleton anymore and they would quickly begin to dissolve it. Eventually a human in space would turn into a floating blob of skin.

If the body could do that, then it could easily begin to develop sensory organs for any new environmental changes introduced. Each single cell has the information to change into an ear or nose or what ever. It simply requires a signal from the outside to begin its evolution. That signal comes from the environment.

Cognitive dissonance indeed. I think you nailed it creative.

To say that matter is not energy is to disagree with E=mc2.

They are interchangeable. Therefore matter is simply a different form of energy.

Is coal matter? It also provides fuel. Is water matter? It is also used for energy and fuel. How about wood or oil? Food? Plants and animals provide energy as food.

The entire universe is a massive bunch of energy exchanges. The big fish eats the little fish. Life moves and exchanges and consumes energy.

Some people like to separate everything and draw a line between this and that, energy and matter. This rock and that tree. But everything is made of Atoms and empty space. Millions of atoms come and go from matter every minute. A piece of matter is a community of atoms.

If you want to define, measure, categorize everything and call it science then join and/or support and accept the authority of the scientists who do those things. That is an important job because it will soon lead us into more understanding of our reality.

I know there is a lot of good knowledge and a lot of things I don't know. But my feeling is that science has taken many wrong turns and they assume things to be true that are not. Therefore I will suspend my belief in everything they declare to be fact or not fact.

My ideas are of the mind based on common logic of things I have learned and seen.

I exist because I doubt all things, except my existence.

If matter was energy the equation would be

E = M

That is funny.

But the equation E=mc2 can only work in this spacetime environment. Therefore the equation depends on time and space.

(Time and space... well I won't get started on how they don't exist.)

There is no new element added or subtracted from that equation except for properties of time and space and the speed of light.... which is energy.

You really have no clue what you are talking about.

Here have some real magic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0IHaIF-nZ4

Interesting clip but I don't get your point.

And Why do you insist that I am talking about 'magic?'

Is what I say that beyond your comprehension? I am not talking about magic. It is all technology.

So educate me then.

If there is anything in the equation E=mc2 besides matter and energy and movement through space, please enlighten me.

It does! I eat the plants... they are food! And of course I drink water....

A cow pooing out it's unwanted waste and a chook doing the same thing, is a scientific achievement?

What world are you on???

http://www.zimbio.com/member/atgvg/articles/4484318/Fritz+Haber+Place+History+How+Fertilizers

Smartass!!!

hmmmm...wonder where the white coats were when neanderthal man, and indigenous cultures globally, discovered pumpkins, (or some other edible plant) growing merrily on their own, out of dinosaur poo, and later, out of bison poo, antelope poo, wallaby poo...and every other native critter poo, globally??????


I love how the white coats grab what has always been known, wrap it up in wordy guff, and decide they found it.....

Matter is energy, and Einstein's Theory of Relativity equation says so.

E=MC2 means energy (E) equals matter (M) multiplied by the speed of light (C) squared (or times itself).

I remember learning this in school, and also learning that this theory was solid enough to be the basis for the development of the atomic bomb.

In fact, I remember a teacher in high school explaining the theory, and concluding, "matter is just materialized energy."

Thank you Pete-man.

Mind poison.

So, tell me Jenniebean, has "The Law Of Attraction" worked for you with tangible results?


(I have flipped through the book from time to time, but I don't really get it....)