Topic: Smartest Nations with High IQs in the world
adj4u's photo
Wed 04/22/09 07:51 AM
Edited by adj4u on Wed 04/22/09 07:54 AM


Here are the top 20 race:

1. Ashkenazi Jewish: 129
2. Japanese: 109
3. German: 107
4. Korean: 105
5. Austrian: 104
5. English: 104
7. Italian: 102
7. Swedish: 102
7. Swiss: 102
7. Dutch: 102
7. Belgium: 102
7. France: 102
13. Han - Chinese: 101
13. Polish: 101
15. USA: 100
15. Hungarian: 100
15. Finnish: 100
15. Norwegian: 100
15. Jewish: 100
20. Canada: 99


This is total BS as American is not a race!


Americans are mixed muts usually. A little of every nation, but you have your country and that counts as a race in whole.

When a American walks down the street he doesn't say I am German, Irish, native indian, and polish. He just says he is American. I would consider it a race of its own now.


the word race is used as the race to the top iq not as in heritage but since you brought it up.......

unless they are of african decent then most say african american

interesting is it not

Fanta46's photo
Wed 04/22/09 07:55 AM




Here are the top 20 race:

1. Ashkenazi Jewish: 129
2. Japanese: 109
3. German: 107
4. Korean: 105
5. Austrian: 104
5. English: 104
7. Italian: 102
7. Swedish: 102
7. Swiss: 102
7. Dutch: 102
7. Belgium: 102
7. France: 102
13. Han - Chinese: 101
13. Polish: 101
15. USA: 100
15. Hungarian: 100
15. Finnish: 100
15. Norwegian: 100
15. Jewish: 100
20. Canada: 99


This is total BS as American is not a race!


Americans are mixed muts usually. A little of every nation, but you have your country and that counts as a race in whole.

When a American walks down the street he doesn't say I am German, Irish, native indian, and polish. He just says he is American. I would consider it a race of its own now.


Poppycock! lol

We are just the most culturally diverse population on earth.
We are the world's melting pot!



I am aware of that, but you don't walk down the street saying that you are 10 different nations. You just say you are Americans.

This is a mixed race nation. There is nothing to it.

How else should scientists rate Americans on statistics. Should you guys have your own individual statistic sheet to prove the point?




If Europeans are going to compare our National Avg to that of their countries why not.

European countries are only as big as one US state and not nearly as diverse in population.
If you take the whole EU and compare it to the US you would still not get a fair comparison.
The EU would still be smaller and would still fail to be as diverse a population.

Lets compare Germany's to Minn's.
That would be far nore accurate since they are closer in size and diversity of population!
Yet Germany would still fall behind in the diversity contest!
Way behind!

Winx's photo
Wed 04/22/09 07:58 AM

the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image



noway


ThomasJB's photo
Wed 04/22/09 07:59 AM
Some interesting facts about IQ:

Environmental factors play a role in determining IQ. Proper childhood nutrition appears critical for cognitive development; malnutrition can lower IQ.

A recent study found that the FADS2 gene, along with breastfeeding, adds about seven IQ points to those with the "C" version of the gene. Those with the "G" version of the FADS2 gene see no advantage.

Musical training in childhood also increases IQ. Recent studies have shown that training in using one's working memory may increase IQ.

Environmental factors play a role in determining IQ. Proper childhood nutrition appears critical for cognitive development; malnutrition can lower IQ.

A recent study found that the FADS2 gene, along with breastfeeding, adds about seven IQ points to those with the "C" version of the gene. Those with the "G" version of the FADS2 gene see no advantage.

Musical training in childhood also increases IQ. Recent studies have shown that training in using one's working memory may increase IQ.

Though generally believed to be immutable, recent research suggests that certain mental activities can change the brain's raw ability to process information, leading to the conclusion that intelligence can be altered or changed over time. Studies into the neuroscience of animals indicate that challenging activities can produce changes in gene expression patterns of the brain. (Training Degus to Use Rakes and Iriki's earlier research with macaque monkeys indicating brain changes.)

A study on young adults published in April 2008 by a team from the Universities of Michigan and Bern supports the possibility of the transfer of fluid intelligence from specifically designed working memory training.

Persons with a higher IQ have generally lower adult morbidity and mortality. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, severe depression and schizophrenia are less prevalent in higher IQ bands.

Men and women have statistically significant differences in average scores on tests of particular abilities. Studies also illustrate consistently greater variance in the performance of men compared to that of women (i.e., men are more represented at the extremes of performance).

. . .others argue that since most of professional tasks are now standardized or automated, and ranked IQ is a stable measurement over time with high correlation with many positive personal traits from the general population, it is the best tool to help determining the best hiring and job placement at any stage in a career, independently of experience, personality bias or any formal training one may acquire.

According to Dr. C. George Boeree of Shippensburg University, intelligence is a person's capacity to (1) acquire knowledge (i.e. learn and understand), (2) apply knowledge (solve problems), and (3) engage in abstract reasoning. It is the power of one's intellect, and as such is clearly a very important aspect of one's overall well-being.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ

willing2's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:00 AM


Here are the top 20 race:

1. Ashkenazi Jewish: 129
2. Japanese: 109
3. German: 107
4. Korean: 105
5. Austrian: 104
5. English: 104
7. Italian: 102
7. Swedish: 102
7. Swiss: 102
7. Dutch: 102
7. Belgium: 102
7. France: 102
13. Han - Chinese: 101
13. Polish: 101
15. USA: 100
15. Hungarian: 100
15. Finnish: 100
15. Norwegian: 100
15. Jewish: 100
20. Canada: 99


This is total BS as American is not a race!


Americans are mixed muts usually. A little of every nation, but you have your country and that counts as a race in whole.

When a American walks down the street he doesn't say I am German, Irish, native indian, and polish. He just says he is American. I would consider it a race of its own now.

I agree. Some refer to the US as the Great Babylon. And we all know how Babylons fall.

no photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:01 AM
I will take someone with good "Street smarts" over a high IQ everytime!!!! Alot of things you can not learn from a book!!!!!

Winx's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:04 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 04/22/09 08:09 AM



Actually my grandparents where responsible for getting crippled Germans out of the country at the time. They risked their lives, but it wasn't as extreme as people talk about it in Germany. They had money to get them out. Money helps alot of decisions at the time.

Yes I truly think genius does touch insanity in some ways. Have you ever met a Genius before? I haven't met some really gifted children in my lifetime, but they do have their problems.

Their brains are bored very quickly and the adults have a hard time trying to keep it entertained.

Also many geniuses are very suicidal, which is sad. Some say the more you know the more depressed you get.

So I try not to know much to stay away from depressionlaugh



That's all true. I have a gifted child. They are more aware then other children about what's going on around them. Things affect them more because they understand it too well and the other children don't even see it.


willing2's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:05 AM


the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image



noway



Why shake the head?
Beings we are to be flooded with Illegals from the south, families are going to have to work that much harder for much less pay. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to allow their kids to continue an education.
The poor, majority, will need all the hands of the family pitching in to stay alive.
I have to agree with smileless, we will become third worldly and soon.

no photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:10 AM

Some interesting facts about IQ:

Environmental factors play a role in determining IQ. Proper childhood nutrition appears critical for cognitive development; malnutrition can lower IQ.

A recent study found that the FADS2 gene, along with breastfeeding, adds about seven IQ points to those with the "C" version of the gene. Those with the "G" version of the FADS2 gene see no advantage.

Musical training in childhood also increases IQ. Recent studies have shown that training in using one's working memory may increase IQ.

Environmental factors play a role in determining IQ. Proper childhood nutrition appears critical for cognitive development; malnutrition can lower IQ.

A recent study found that the FADS2 gene, along with breastfeeding, adds about seven IQ points to those with the "C" version of the gene. Those with the "G" version of the FADS2 gene see no advantage.

Musical training in childhood also increases IQ. Recent studies have shown that training in using one's working memory may increase IQ.

Though generally believed to be immutable, recent research suggests that certain mental activities can change the brain's raw ability to process information, leading to the conclusion that intelligence can be altered or changed over time. Studies into the neuroscience of animals indicate that challenging activities can produce changes in gene expression patterns of the brain. (Training Degus to Use Rakes and Iriki's earlier research with macaque monkeys indicating brain changes.)

A study on young adults published in April 2008 by a team from the Universities of Michigan and Bern supports the possibility of the transfer of fluid intelligence from specifically designed working memory training.

Persons with a higher IQ have generally lower adult morbidity and mortality. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, severe depression and schizophrenia are less prevalent in higher IQ bands.

Men and women have statistically significant differences in average scores on tests of particular abilities. Studies also illustrate consistently greater variance in the performance of men compared to that of women (i.e., men are more represented at the extremes of performance).

. . .others argue that since most of professional tasks are now standardized or automated, and ranked IQ is a stable measurement over time with high correlation with many positive personal traits from the general population, it is the best tool to help determining the best hiring and job placement at any stage in a career, independently of experience, personality bias or any formal training one may acquire.

According to Dr. C. George Boeree of Shippensburg University, intelligence is a person's capacity to (1) acquire knowledge (i.e. learn and understand), (2) apply knowledge (solve problems), and (3) engage in abstract reasoning. It is the power of one's intellect, and as such is clearly a very important aspect of one's overall well-being.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ


This article seems to be accurate to me anyway. I mean the quality of life really makes a difference in the persons ability to learn. The stability of a country, the education system, and the programs that help a child develop increase the IQ.

I would say that America's IQ can go up if they improve on many things to ensure children of the future have more knowledge.

One thing I would like to see is that college or universities degrees wouldn't cost as much as buying a building in this country.

That the crime goes down would be great to ensure safer neighborhoods.

Better programs for all the schools not just for those who pay alot of money for their private schools as if it is a privilige to learn something in today's world when it should be a neccessity.

Also the importance of nutrition like your article says. Here in Miami only 25% of the parents leave their house to feed their children a breakfast. Many of the children go to school with empty stomachs!

So here we are with many problems that can be resolved, but are not resolved. Something that needs to be worked on if you want the US to have a better ranking on education compared to other industrialized countries.

What are you waiting for! Get to work on thisdrinker

Winx's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:10 AM



the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image



noway


Why shake the head?
Beings we are to be flooded with Illegals from the south, families are going to have to work that much harder for much less pay. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to allow their kids to continue an education.
The poor, majority, will need all the hands of the family pitching in to stay alive.
I have to agree with smileless, we will become third worldly and soon.


What does that have to do with the post that I was replying to?

no photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:10 AM

I will take someone with good "Street smarts" over a high IQ everytime!!!! Alot of things you can not learn from a book!!!!!


yes many books are written on emotional intelligence and claim that is what is most important in today's society, especially here in the states.

willing2's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:12 AM




the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image



noway


Why shake the head?
Beings we are to be flooded with Illegals from the south, families are going to have to work that much harder for much less pay. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to allow their kids to continue an education.
The poor, majority, will need all the hands of the family pitching in to stay alive.
I have to agree with smileless, we will become third worldly and soon.


What does that have to do with the post that I was replying to?

the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image

I think, everything.

no photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:20 AM
Edited by smiless on Wed 04/22/09 09:04 AM





the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image



noway


Why shake the head?
Beings we are to be flooded with Illegals from the south, families are going to have to work that much harder for much less pay. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to allow their kids to continue an education.
The poor, majority, will need all the hands of the family pitching in to stay alive.
I have to agree with smileless, we will become third worldly and soon.


What does that have to do with the post that I was replying to?

the u s will be lower on the list next time

the govt does not want an intelligent self thinking populous

it is easier to control those that have a low iq and a bad self image

I think, everything.


Yes very true in many ways. I mean each individual has the ability to learn alot. We have the internet, we have libraries, we have smart people in this country, yet it doesn't seem to be enforced like it should be. The lazy laid back relaxed attitude is not going to do justice for the US.

Also it is said that the government doesn't want the population to know to much about how the country works, government affairs, foreign affairs, etc. They just want to relay enough information to keep the population satisfied to not worry about it. Something like a blind faith for the people who run the country so to say. How much merit this has is for you to decide.

If you check schools how long do they teach about civics, economics, goverment and how it works, or politics? How long is it discussed in a classroom. A few days and that is it. Take a test and next please. I mean the teachers don't even spend the time anymore to really explain unless you have your child in a private school paying the big bucks.

So then the elections come, yet many people vote for a president for their looks, how they wear clothes, their talents on their freetime, their charismatic charm, or there upstraight posture of willpower at the moment.

When I watch a immigrant get his US citizenship they can tell you how many members are in the house of represenative, how many years they serve, who their governor or mayor is, or who was the second president of the united states was.

yet ask some Americans who never had to take such a test to become an American cannot tell you if Alaska belongs to the United States or how it was even acquired!

There surely has to be some emphasizes on education in this country rather the government wants it or not or whatever the deal is that Americans have reason for.

Education is the key to helping this country run more efficiently in many ways.

What can you do about it?

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:21 AM
...you guys must be really bored.

no photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:23 AM

...you guys must be really bored.


yup you are right about that. I should go to the beach or somethinglaugh drinker

Fanta46's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:27 AM





Here are the top 20 race:

1. Ashkenazi Jewish: 129
2. Japanese: 109
3. German: 107
4. Korean: 105
5. Austrian: 104
5. English: 104
7. Italian: 102
7. Swedish: 102
7. Swiss: 102
7. Dutch: 102
7. Belgium: 102
7. France: 102
13. Han - Chinese: 101
13. Polish: 101
15. USA: 100
15. Hungarian: 100
15. Finnish: 100
15. Norwegian: 100
15. Jewish: 100
20. Canada: 99


This is total BS as American is not a race!


Americans are mixed muts usually. A little of every nation, but you have your country and that counts as a race in whole.

When a American walks down the street he doesn't say I am German, Irish, native indian, and polish. He just says he is American. I would consider it a race of its own now.


Poppycock! lol

We are just the most culturally diverse population on earth.
We are the world's melting pot!



I am aware of that, but you don't walk down the street saying that you are 10 different nations. You just say you are Americans.

This is a mixed race nation. There is nothing to it.

How else should scientists rate Americans on statistics. Should you guys have your own individual statistic sheet to prove the point?




If Europeans are going to compare our National Avg to that of their countries why not.

European countries are only as big as one US state and not nearly as diverse in population.
If you take the whole EU and compare it to the US you would still not get a fair comparison.
The EU would still be smaller and would still fail to be as diverse a population.

Lets compare Germany's to Minn's.
That would be far nore accurate since they are closer in size and diversity of population!
Yet Germany would still fall behind in the diversity contest!
Way behind!

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:31 AM


...you guys must be really bored.


yup you are right about that. I should go to the beach or somethinglaugh drinker


that about sums it up

ohwell ohwell ohwell

no photo
Wed 04/22/09 08:52 AM
Edited by smiless on Wed 04/22/09 09:02 AM






Here are the top 20 race:

1. Ashkenazi Jewish: 129
2. Japanese: 109
3. German: 107
4. Korean: 105
5. Austrian: 104
5. English: 104
7. Italian: 102
7. Swedish: 102
7. Swiss: 102
7. Dutch: 102
7. Belgium: 102
7. France: 102
13. Han - Chinese: 101
13. Polish: 101
15. USA: 100
15. Hungarian: 100
15. Finnish: 100
15. Norwegian: 100
15. Jewish: 100
20. Canada: 99


This is total BS as American is not a race!


Americans are mixed muts usually. A little of every nation, but you have your country and that counts as a race in whole.

When a American walks down the street he doesn't say I am German, Irish, native indian, and polish. He just says he is American. I would consider it a race of its own now.


Poppycock! lol

We are just the most culturally diverse population on earth.
We are the world's melting pot!



I am aware of that, but you don't walk down the street saying that you are 10 different nations. You just say you are Americans.

This is a mixed race nation. There is nothing to it.

How else should scientists rate Americans on statistics. Should you guys have your own individual statistic sheet to prove the point?




If Europeans are going to compare our National Avg to that of their countries why not.

European countries are only as big as one US state and not nearly as diverse in population.
If you take the whole EU and compare it to the US you would still not get a fair comparison.
The EU would still be smaller and would still fail to be as diverse a population.

Lets compare Germany's to Minn's.
That would be far nore accurate since they are closer in size and diversity of population!
Yet Germany would still fall behind in the diversity contest!
Way behind!



While it is no secret that Europe, especially Germany doesn't have a diverse population compared to america, the IQ tests by those scientists are based on many statistics they do in general. Do you know how they base their statistics on in Cambridge where it was taken?

I wouldn't mind if a European country is compared to one individual state here in America each time. If the scientist's would put in such a effort is another question. I don't see why not?

It will give us a better statistic in showing which states need to emphasize more on education also.

Unless you are gifted then the IQ is something one attains from good environment, nutrition, and interest in studies. There are alot of factors scientists use to determine the overall statistic of a IQ.

One could also do this by color, but I think scientists refrain from doing this and prefer by country instead.


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Wed 04/22/09 09:07 AM
Edited by smiless on Wed 04/22/09 09:14 AM




Actually my grandparents where responsible for getting crippled Germans out of the country at the time. They risked their lives, but it wasn't as extreme as people talk about it in Germany. They had money to get them out. Money helps alot of decisions at the time.

Yes I truly think genius does touch insanity in some ways. Have you ever met a Genius before? I haven't met some really gifted children in my lifetime, but they do have their problems.

Their brains are bored very quickly and the adults have a hard time trying to keep it entertained.

Also many geniuses are very suicidal, which is sad. Some say the more you know the more depressed you get.

So I try not to know much to stay away from depressionlaugh



That's all true. I have a gifted child. They are more aware then other children about what's going on around them. Things affect them more because they understand it too well and the other children don't even see it.




Well you certainly have your hands full trying to keep your child entertained. I have a friend who has a gifted student and he can't keep up with his sponge brain wanting to know more then he knows himself. lol

The good thing is that it pushes my child to try harder hanging around the gifted student as they are friends now.

My daughter has straight A's and is on the honor roll everytime, but she isn't gifted. She is actually contempt with what she has to study each day and works hard for it. She makes me work hard to with her homework. lol

She does spend alot of time playing the piano though and I help out with my alleycat voice waking up the neighborslaugh

So yes some say over here having a gifted child is like raising 5 kids a the same time. lol

I feel for you, but in the end you will be most proud! Who knows what your child will become. Maybe even the president and a charismatic one at that to influence and control congress to make this country wonderful beyond imagination. flowerforyou

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 04/22/09 09:54 AM
Does anyone else think that the quality of education has increased in step with our increased knowledge of the process learning? We reserve programs like TAG for only a select few, but in reality learning programs like that should be used for all students. We many examples from private schools a select few public schools, but the general consensus seems to be that those programs would be too much work to implement for all students.