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This thread is over 2 months old and still no end-of-the-world
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Matt 24:36-37
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. |
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Matt 24:36-37 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. But a lot of people have said it was the "End" in this very thread. Im confused.
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there are sings...but NO ONE knows when it will happen. I quoted from scripture. I don't care if someone wants to assume....no one knows
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 06/17/09 10:53 AM
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Cool But what of this scripture?
Ecclesiastes 1:9: That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 06/17/09 10:54 AM
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there are sings...but NO ONE knows when it will happen. I quoted from scripture. I don't care if someone wants to assume....no one knows Thank you for trying to explain to me This is something Jesus said.
"Verily, I say unto you, This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled" Matthew 24:34 |
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there are sings...but NO ONE knows when it will happen. I quoted from scripture. I don't care if someone wants to assume....no one knows Very Cool. But what signs are people seeing. Rose? Everything I see happening has happened before and will happen again. I see nothing new under the sun. Thats why I am confused about this.
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he didn't say when it will happen. the Bible gives signs to look for but not dates.
Matthew 24:34 is taken out of context. Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said, "this generation will not pass"?" Answer: This quote of Jesus in regards to the end times is found in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32. Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." The key to understanding what Jesus means is understanding the context; that is, understanding the verses that are surrounding verse 34, but especially the verses prior to verse 34. In Matthew 24:4-31, Jesus is speaking of events that have not yet happened. The generation of people living when those events occur is the generation that Jesus speaks of "not passing" until He returns. Jesus had already told those living during His first time on earth that the kingdom had been taken from them (Matthew 21:43). Therefore, it is imperative that Matthew 24-25 be seen as speaking of a future time and that the word generation is referring to the people alive when the events of Matthew 24-25 are occurring. Another possibility is that Jesus was giving a prophecy with a "double fulfillment." Some of what He was predicting was going to occur in that generation. Some of what Jesus prophesied fits with what occurred when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Other aspects of Jesus' prophecy, however, did not occur in A.D.70; for example, Matthew 24:29-31. However, this view does not work with Jesus' statement that "all these things" will take place in "this generation." Therefore, it is best to understand "this generation" as referring to the generation in which the end-times events occur. Essentially, Jesus is saying that the end times will happen quickly. This concept is echoed in many other Scriptures (Matthew 24:22; Mark 13:20; Revelation 3:11; 22:7,12,20). this is actually a good site for answers are you disputing the book of Revelations? there are signs that the Bible talk about, but not th exact date. No one knows that |
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there are sings...but NO ONE knows when it will happen. I quoted from scripture. I don't care if someone wants to assume....no one knows Very Cool. But what signs are people seeing. Rose? Everything I see happening has happened before and will happen again. I see nothing new under the sun. Thats why I am confused about this.
because people assume. there have been assumptions throughout time. go to gotquestions.org. they have good info. but NO ONE knows for sure. not the angels or Jesus. only the Father |
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But in Luke doesn't Jesus say the Kingdom is within you?
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he didn't say when it will happen. the Bible gives signs to look for but not dates. Matthew 24:34 is taken out of context. Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said, "this generation will not pass"?" Answer: This quote of Jesus in regards to the end times is found in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32. Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." The key to understanding what Jesus means is understanding the context; that is, understanding the verses that are surrounding verse 34, but especially the verses prior to verse 34. In Matthew 24:4-31, Jesus is speaking of events that have not yet happened. The generation of people living when those events occur is the generation that Jesus speaks of "not passing" until He returns. Jesus had already told those living during His first time on earth that the kingdom had been taken from them (Matthew 21:43). Therefore, it is imperative that Matthew 24-25 be seen as speaking of a future time and that the word generation is referring to the people alive when the events of Matthew 24-25 are occurring. Another possibility is that Jesus was giving a prophecy with a "double fulfillment." Some of what He was predicting was going to occur in that generation. Some of what Jesus prophesied fits with what occurred when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Other aspects of Jesus' prophecy, however, did not occur in A.D.70; for example, Matthew 24:29-31. However, this view does not work with Jesus' statement that "all these things" will take place in "this generation." Therefore, it is best to understand "this generation" as referring to the generation in which the end-times events occur. Essentially, Jesus is saying that the end times will happen quickly. This concept is echoed in many other Scriptures (Matthew 24:22; Mark 13:20; Revelation 3:11; 22:7,12,20). this is actually a good site for answers are you disputing the book of Revelations? there are signs that the Bible talk about, but not th exact date. No one knows that Thank you. That makes sense. But what signs? All I see has happened before and will happen again. What is new under the sun?
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there are sings...but NO ONE knows when it will happen. I quoted from scripture. I don't care if someone wants to assume....no one knows Very Cool. But what signs are people seeing. Rose? Everything I see happening has happened before and will happen again. I see nothing new under the sun. Thats why I am confused about this.
because people assume. there have been assumptions throughout time. go to gotquestions.org. they have good info. but NO ONE knows for sure. not the angels or Jesus. only the Father Thank you So people are just ASSUMING? As they always have ASSUMING with no proof other than their own assumption?
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he didn't say when it will happen. the Bible gives signs to look for but not dates. Matthew 24:34 is taken out of context. Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said, "this generation will not pass"?" Answer: This quote of Jesus in regards to the end times is found in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32. Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." The key to understanding what Jesus means is understanding the context; that is, understanding the verses that are surrounding verse 34, but especially the verses prior to verse 34. In Matthew 24:4-31, Jesus is speaking of events that have not yet happened. The generation of people living when those events occur is the generation that Jesus speaks of "not passing" until He returns. Jesus had already told those living during His first time on earth that the kingdom had been taken from them (Matthew 21:43). Therefore, it is imperative that Matthew 24-25 be seen as speaking of a future time and that the word generation is referring to the people alive when the events of Matthew 24-25 are occurring. Another possibility is that Jesus was giving a prophecy with a "double fulfillment." Some of what He was predicting was going to occur in that generation. Some of what Jesus prophesied fits with what occurred when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Other aspects of Jesus' prophecy, however, did not occur in A.D.70; for example, Matthew 24:29-31. However, this view does not work with Jesus' statement that "all these things" will take place in "this generation." Therefore, it is best to understand "this generation" as referring to the generation in which the end-times events occur. Essentially, Jesus is saying that the end times will happen quickly. This concept is echoed in many other Scriptures (Matthew 24:22; Mark 13:20; Revelation 3:11; 22:7,12,20). this is actually a good site for answers are you disputing the book of Revelations? there are signs that the Bible talk about, but not th exact date. No one knows that Thank you. That makes sense. But what signs? All I see has happened before and will happen again. What is new under the sun?
this site has really helped me with scripture and understanding it http://www.gotquestions.org/signs-end-times.html |
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But in Luke doesn't Jesus say the Kingdom is within you? yes...it does say that...but the translations can be different. the end of times refers to this world, not what is in you. i assume this is what you are talking about rich...Luke 17 (KJV) And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. the kingdom of God is within you. (KJV) the kingdom of God is in the midst of you. (RSV) For the Kingdom of God is among you. (NLT) For behold the kingdom of God is among you. (FNT) this might help some http://www.voiceofjesus.org/kingdom_not_within.html |
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BTW...I use sites because the break it down to make it easier to read...at least for me.
I will admit I am no expert, so therefore I use sites as these for better understanding |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 06/17/09 11:14 AM
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he didn't say when it will happen. the Bible gives signs to look for but not dates. Matthew 24:34 is taken out of context. Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said, "this generation will not pass"?" Answer: This quote of Jesus in regards to the end times is found in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32. Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." The key to understanding what Jesus means is understanding the context; that is, understanding the verses that are surrounding verse 34, but especially the verses prior to verse 34. In Matthew 24:4-31, Jesus is speaking of events that have not yet happened. The generation of people living when those events occur is the generation that Jesus speaks of "not passing" until He returns. Jesus had already told those living during His first time on earth that the kingdom had been taken from them (Matthew 21:43). Therefore, it is imperative that Matthew 24-25 be seen as speaking of a future time and that the word generation is referring to the people alive when the events of Matthew 24-25 are occurring. Another possibility is that Jesus was giving a prophecy with a "double fulfillment." Some of what He was predicting was going to occur in that generation. Some of what Jesus prophesied fits with what occurred when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Other aspects of Jesus' prophecy, however, did not occur in A.D.70; for example, Matthew 24:29-31. However, this view does not work with Jesus' statement that "all these things" will take place in "this generation." Therefore, it is best to understand "this generation" as referring to the generation in which the end-times events occur. Essentially, Jesus is saying that the end times will happen quickly. This concept is echoed in many other Scriptures (Matthew 24:22; Mark 13:20; Revelation 3:11; 22:7,12,20). this is actually a good site for answers are you disputing the book of Revelations? there are signs that the Bible talk about, but not th exact date. No one knows that Thank you. That makes sense. But what signs? All I see has happened before and will happen again. What is new under the sun?
this site has really helped me with scripture and understanding it http://www.gotquestions.org/signs-end-times.html Thank you for sharing that site with me. I think understand the scripture pretty well, but I personally understand the prophetic scriptures of the bible to have already been fullfilled ,just as Jesus said they would. Thats where I seem to differ from most other people on scripture. I believe Christ has already achieved victory(according to my understanding of scripture). I dont see any of these "signs" everyone is referring to, because it all seems to be stuff that has always been happening again and again and again. All of it seems to have happened before and all of it seems to happen again. I dont see anything new under the sun.
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Wed 06/17/09 11:16 AM
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keep in mind as well....time is different to God than a day is 24 hours to us.
I really do hope that site will help you. I will admit I don't know close to all I should know about the Bible and that site has helped me a lot. there are still signs to come....but again...no one knows for sure except the Father if you go to that site...you can type in key words etc and if the topic hasn't been answered...you can post a question and they will reply |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 06/17/09 11:28 AM
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keep in mind as well....time is different to God than a day is 24 hours to us. I really do hope that site will help you. I will admit I don't know close to all I should know about the Bible and that site has helped me a lot. there are still signs to come....but again...no one knows for sure except the Father if you go to that site...you can type in key words etc and if the topic hasn't been answered...you can post a question and they will reply But if humans have free will and Christ said we can all be forgiven then the future is undertermined. This end of the world stuff only contradicts the message of Jesus. It seems to me that the prophetic scriptures are referring to events that have already transpired within the Roman Empire ,and its fall, and the rise of Christianity as a world power. Thats what I get when I read the scriptures. It all fits together and makes sense that way.
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the way I understand the situation is...yes He died for us and we can be forgiven. but that doesn't mean we can just do it over and over and just say sorry as well. just like I have taught my son....sorry is a word, it's the actions behind it that matter. it's what is in the heart and mind. but to be forgiven...we have to repent and ask for forgiveness. we all make mistakes in life. God knows we are human. but just saying i'm sorry isn't enough IMO...you have to learn from your mistakes as well
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Scripture says that no one knows the day nor the hour, not even the Son(Jesus) until the Father reveils it to Him.
Personally, I believe we are in the end times, however long that takes, i have no clue, but I do know, we all need to be prepared with our Souls and relationship with Christ and be ready at any given moment! |
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This thread is over 2 months old and still no end-of-the-world
But a lot of people have said it was the "End" in this very thread.
Cool
That makes sense.