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Thu 04/16/09 03:45 PM
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The important thing Jacob is to keep watch! Sounds like you're doing that.
Matthew 24
42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
Matthew 25
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
oh i have, they already have plans to put microchips in our hands(mark of the beast!). reality is sometimes not what it seems, these people control everything, our money, the media, music we listen to, and our minds. theres tons of information on the internet. go search now! they cant control that!
NO NO NO. These things all happened in the Roman Empire. Read your history books. Its all there. People are beng decieved by false prophets out to make money from books and movies,etc. This false interpretation of scripture has caused more damage to Christianity than anything else ever has.
Has these things happened Mirror?
Acts 2
16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
THE ANSWER IS NO......
It happened in the fall of the Pagan Roman Empire. The Christians never raised a sword in anger,they layed down their lives for what they believed, and when it was all over for the pagan Roman Empire,the Christians were the last ones standing. If you will indulge me and please read the rest of my postings in this thread. I think it may explain a little more to you.
I will agree to disagree....and still love ya
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Thu 04/16/09 03:52 PM
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Thu 04/16/09 03:57 PM
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Has Jesus "THE LAMB" who sits upon the THRONE opened the SEVEN seals? NOPE....
He hasn't come yet.......this world is going to get ALOT WORSE...before His return...keep watch....it hasn't happened Mirror...
It happened to the Pagan Romans who brutally murdered the Christians who would not accept the mark of the Emperor. They hid in underground tunnels. They prophecied Whenever a person feeds the hungry,whenever a person clothes the naked,whenever a person frees the enslaved,whenever a person lays down his life for his friends, Jesus is there. This is what it means to be Christian(Christ like)
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Thu 04/16/09 03:55 PM
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Never give up hope. No matter who you are, or what you have done, you can change yourself, and you can change the world. Even death cannot stop you. One person can make a difference. You are not bound to a destiny. The choice is yours. Jesus proved that this was possible. He could have made other choices. He could have fled Israel/Palestine, as so many other influential men of his times had done when they were threatened by the authorities. But he decided to lay down his life because he loves his fellow man more than he loved his own life. He showed us the way. The future is ours to make. You can forgive and be forgiven. Humanity can forgive and be forgiven. Its never the end. Its never too late. It only takes one person change the world. We can be saved
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Thu 04/16/09 04:01 PM
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Do not give up hope. Christians can save the world. One person can make a difference. We can be saved. This sinful world can be saved. We can change. We can be forgiven. God gave us free will. Therefore, there is no destiny except what we make it. WE CAN SAVE THE WORLD
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Thu 04/16/09 04:11 PM
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Thu 04/16/09 04:13 PM
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Has Jesus "THE LAMB" who sits upon the THRONE opened the SEVEN seals? NOPE....
He hasn't come yet.......this world is going to get ALOT WORSE...before His return...keep watch....it hasn't happened Mirror...
It happened to the Pagan Romans who brutally murdered the Christians who would not accept the mark of the Emperor. They hid in underground tunnels. Whenever a person feeds the hungry,whenever a person clothes the naked,whenever a person frees the enslaved,whenever a person lays down his life for his friends, Jesus is there. This is what it means to be Christian(Christ like)
So you are saying Jesus has already come? What is spoke of in Revelations has been fulfilled? Jesus opened the seals, vials have been poured out (plagues). Satan was bound up for a thousand years and was released to deceive the Nations. That has past...Armagedon has happened. Satan and those not written in the "Lambs Book of Life" has been cast into Hades. The new heaven and earth have been created. What about this one....Revelation 21 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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Thu 04/16/09 04:13 PM
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Destiny,Fate,Karma,predestination are pagan beliefs. The bible says that The ONE TRUE GOD gave us free will. We can make a choice. We can make a difference. We can save this world.Its never too late. There is always hope. Jesus proved this. Even death cannot stop you. Death did not stop Jesus. it only made him stronger.
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Thu 04/16/09 04:21 PM
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Thu 04/16/09 04:31 PM
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Has Jesus "THE LAMB" who sits upon the THRONE opened the SEVEN seals? NOPE....
He hasn't come yet.......this world is going to get ALOT WORSE...before His return...keep watch....it hasn't happened Mirror...
It happened to the Pagan Romans who brutally murdered the Christians who would not accept the mark of the Emperor. They hid in underground tunnels. Whenever a person feeds the hungry,whenever a person clothes the naked,whenever a person frees the enslaved,whenever a person lays down his life for his friends, Jesus is there. This is what it means to be Christian(Christ like)
So you are saying Jesus has already come? What is spoke of in Revelations has been fulfilled? Jesus opened the seals, vials have been poured out (plagues). Satan was bound up for a thousand years and was released to deceive the Nations. That has past...Armagedon has happened. Satan and those not written in the "Lambs Book of Life" has been cast into Hades. The new heaven and earth have been created. What about this one....Revelation 21 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Yes, that is exactly what happened when the evil Pagan Romans were destroyed and the only survivors were the meek of heart Christians. Armageddon happened to the greatest superpower (the Roman Empire)thru pleagues,wars,famines,within and without. A new heaven and earth was created.(The Pagans believed in a different heaven and earth). No more massive persecutions (feeding christians to lions,burning them,raping them,beheading them) it was all over when the Romans were destroyed. The efforts of the martyrs payed off (Their tears were wiped away and they no longer suffered yet their efforts live on for thousands of years). Jesus came and set these events into motion with his sacrifice of love for his fellow man He defeated Death by achieving these goals even after he was murdered The former things past away (Roman Empire was completly destroyed and all that survived were the Christians)
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Thu 04/16/09 04:44 PM
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Has Jesus "THE LAMB" who sits upon the THRONE opened the SEVEN seals? NOPE....
He hasn't come yet.......this world is going to get ALOT WORSE...before His return...keep watch....it hasn't happened Mirror...
It happened to the Pagan Romans who brutally murdered the Christians who would not accept the mark of the Emperor. They hid in underground tunnels. Whenever a person feeds the hungry,whenever a person clothes the naked,whenever a person frees the enslaved,whenever a person lays down his life for his friends, Jesus is there. This is what it means to be Christian(Christ like)
So you are saying Jesus has already come? What is spoke of in Revelations has been fulfilled? Jesus opened the seals, vials have been poured out (plagues). Satan was bound up for a thousand years and was released to deceive the Nations. That has past...Armagedon has happened. Satan and those not written in the "Lambs Book of Life" has been cast into Hades. The new heaven and earth have been created. What about this one....Revelation 21 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Yes, that is exactly what happened when the evil Pagan Romans were destroyed and the only survivors were the meek of heart Christians. Armageddon happened to the greatest superpower (the Roman Empire)thru pleagues,wars,famines,within and without. A new heaven and earth was created.(The Pagans believed in a different heaven and earth). No more massive persecutions (feeding christians to lions,burning them,raping them,beheading them) it was all over when the Romans were destroyed. The efforts of the martyrs payed off (Their tears were wiped away and they no longer suffered yet their efforts live on for thousands of years). Jesus came and set these events into motion with his sacrifice of love for his fellow man He defeated Death by achieving these goals even after he was murdered The former things past away (Roman Empire was completly destroyed and all that survived were the Christians)
So you are saying we are all Christians?
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Thu 04/16/09 04:49 PM
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Revelation 21 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
There is still death, pain, sorrow, and I still cry.
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Thu 04/16/09 04:56 PM
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MirrorMirror
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Thu 04/16/09 05:10 PM
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Has Jesus "THE LAMB" who sits upon the THRONE opened the SEVEN seals? NOPE....
He hasn't come yet.......this world is going to get ALOT WORSE...before His return...keep watch....it hasn't happened Mirror...
It happened to the Pagan Romans who brutally murdered the Christians who would not accept the mark of the Emperor. They hid in underground tunnels. Whenever a person feeds the hungry,whenever a person clothes the naked,whenever a person frees the enslaved,whenever a person lays down his life for his friends, Jesus is there. This is what it means to be Christian(Christ like)
So you are saying Jesus has already come? What is spoke of in Revelations has been fulfilled? Jesus opened the seals, vials have been poured out (plagues). Satan was bound up for a thousand years and was released to deceive the Nations. That has past...Armagedon has happened. Satan and those not written in the "Lambs Book of Life" has been cast into Hades. The new heaven and earth have been created. What about this one....Revelation 21 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Yes, that is exactly what happened when the evil Pagan Romans were destroyed and the only survivors were the meek of heart Christians. Armageddon happened to the greatest superpower (the Roman Empire)thru pleagues,wars,famines,within and without. A new heaven and earth was created.(The Pagans believed in a different heaven and earth). No more massive persecutions (feeding christians to lions,burning them,raping them,beheading them) it was all over when the Romans were destroyed. The efforts of the martyrs payed off (Their tears were wiped away and they no longer suffered yet their efforts live on for thousands of years). Jesus came and set these events into motion with his sacrifice of love for his fellow man He defeated Death by achieving these goals even after he was murdered The former things past away (Roman Empire was completly destroyed and all that survived were the Christians)
So you are saying we are all Christians?
The remnants that replaced Rome were called Christendom Many of the primary ideas that Christ taught have filtered out throughout the world.(most of us believe in free will and redemption). Nearly every person on Earth (99%)have been affected by the efforts of Jesus. This small group of downtrodden persecuted people who were so brutalized by the Pagans have became THE major world religion. As long as there are humans, Jesus will be remembered in some form. Practically everyone that has, or will live has at least heard of Jesus and what he did. You must keep in mind that before Jesus,most people believed in Fate,Destiny, and predestination. The concept of free will and redemption were almost unheard of until Jesus popularized them. People once believed that your life was hopeless according to the destiny the pagan gods layed out for you. Jesus said you can forgive and be forgiven. He said the choice was yours. This is why his ideas spread like wildfire. The pagan people had never heard this before and many were completly overwhelmed by it.
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Thu 04/16/09 05:05 PM
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Revelation 21 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
There is still death, pain, sorrow, and I still cry.
This partially refers to the Christian martyrs who were raped,fed to animals,burned,beheaded,and crucified all for a cause, and it all eventually paid off. The persecution of the Pagan Romans came to an end when they were destroyed(former things passed away). Also,when you die in the name of Jesus, you no longer cry,feel pain,sorrow, or death but you live on in how you loved your fellow man through your efforts. You are greater because you had a positive effect on the world. You can make a difference. Death cannot stop you.
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Thu 04/16/09 05:07 PM
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If you love your fellow humans more than you love your own life, then death means nothing to you anymore. It becomes an honor to lay down your life in the name of love.
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Thu 04/16/09 05:11 PM
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Well thanks for sharing your views.
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Thu 04/16/09 05:38 PM
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Well thanks for sharing your views.
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Thu 04/16/09 05:41 PM
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We Americans like to call ourselves a superpower. But take away our fancy gadgets and the Roman Empire could have us for breakfast. They created a massive superpower with none of our fancy gadgets and technology.
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Thu 04/16/09 05:44 PM
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Thu 04/16/09 05:47 PM
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When the Pagan Romans were finally destroyed by the barbarians, all that was left were the meek Christians. These Christians showed their love and shared Christ with the barbarians and converted them to Christianity. Becoming the victors without force of arms (which had failed for the Romans) The times after the fall of the Empire were called the Dark Ages. The only beacon of hope in those times was the Christian church. The only thing to truly survive the fall of the Roman Empire.
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Fri 04/17/09 02:47 AM
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When the Pagan Romans were finally destroyed by the barbarians, all that was left were the meek Christians. These Christians showed their love and shared Christ with the barbarians and converted them to Christianity. Becoming the victors without force of arms (which had failed for the Romans) The times after the fall of the Empire were called the Dark Ages. The only beacon of hope in those times was the Christian church. The only thing to truly survive the fall of the Roman Empire.
mirror is totally a double secret agent working for our evil government
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Fri 04/17/09 04:19 AM
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here, this guy explains it very well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0wWLVxSxrg
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Fri 04/17/09 08:24 AM
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When the Pagan Romans were finally destroyed by the barbarians, all that was left were the meek Christians. These Christians showed their love and shared Christ with the barbarians and converted them to Christianity. Becoming the victors without force of arms (which had failed for the Romans) The times after the fall of the Empire were called the Dark Ages. The only beacon of hope in those times was the Christian church. The only thing to truly survive the fall of the Roman Empire.
mirror is totally a double secret agent working for our evil government
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Fri 04/17/09 08:30 AM
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Jesus don't need to return. He is here right now. He has been here for 2000 years.
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