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By VICTOR L. SIMPSON, Associated Press Writer Victor L. Simpson, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 47 mins ago. YAOUNDE, Cameroon – Condoms are not the answer to Africa's fight against HIV, Pope Benedict XVI said Tuesday as he began a weeklong trip to the continent. It was the pope's first explicit statement on an issue that has divided even clergy working with AIDS patients. Benedict arrived in Yaounde, Cameroon's capital, on Tuesday afternoon, greeted by a crowd of flag-waving faithful and snapping cameras. The visit is his first pilgrimage as pontiff to Africa. In his four years as pope, Benedict had never directly addressed condom use, although his position is not new. His predecessor, Pope John Paul II, often said that sexual abstinence — not condoms — was the best way to prevent the spread of the disease. Benedict also said the Roman Catholic Church was at the forefront of the battle against AIDS. "You can't resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane heading to Yaounde. "On the contrary, it increases the problem." The pope said a responsible and moral attitude toward sex would help fight the disease. The Roman Catholic Church rejects the use of condoms as part of its overall teaching against artificial contraception. Senior Vatican officials have advocated fidelity in marriage and abstinence from premarital sex as key weapons in the fight against AIDS. About 22 million people in sub-Saharan Africa are infected with HIV, according to UNAIDS. In 2007, three-quarters of all AIDS deaths worldwide were there, as well as two-thirds of all people living with HIV. Rebecca Hodes with the Treatment Action Campaign in South Africa said if the pope was serious about preventing new HIV infections, he would focus on promoting wide access to condoms and spreading information on how best to use them. "Instead, his opposition to condoms conveys that religious dogma is more important to him than the lives of Africans," said Hodes, head of policy, communication and research for the organization. Hodes said the pope was right that condoms are not the sole solution to Africa's AIDS epidemic, but added they are one of the very few proven measures to prevent HIV infections. Even some priests and nuns working with those living with HIV/AIDS question the church's opposition to condoms amid the pandemic ravaging Africa. Ordinary Africans do as well. "Talking about the nonuse of condoms is out of place. We need condoms to protect ourselves against diseases and AIDS," teacher Narcisse Takou said Tuesday in Yaounde. Benedict's African trip this week will also take him to Angola. A crowd of photographers and cameras flashed as Benedict stepped off the plane in Yaounde, where the temperature was 88 degrees Fahrenheit (31 Celsius) with high humidity. The pope was greeted by Cameroon's President Paul Biya, who has ruled since 1982 and whose government has been accused by Amnesty International of abuses in crushing political opponents. The pope made no specific reference to the situation in Cameroon, but he did say in general remarks on Africa that "a Christian can never remain silent" in the face of violence, poverty, hunger, corruption or abuse of power. "The saving message of the Gospel needs to be proclaimed loud and clear so that the light of Christ can shine into the darkness of people's lives," Benedict said as the president and other political leaders looked on. Thousands of people lined the road to watch the pope's motorcade drive into Yaounde, standing shoulder to shoulder in red dirt fields or under palm trees to escape the punishing sun. Africa is the fastest-growing region for the Catholic church, though it competes with Islam and evangelical churches. The pope also said Tuesday he intends to make an appeal for "international solidarity" for Africa in the face of the global economic downturn. He said while the church does not propose specific economic solutions, it can give "spiritual and moral" suggestions. He described the current crisis as the result of "a deficit of ethics in economic structures." "It is here that the church can make a contribution," he said. On the plane, Benedict also dismissed the notion that he was facing increasing opposition and isolation within the church, particularly after an outreach to ultraconservatives that led to his lifting the excommunication of a Holocaust-denying bishop. "The myth of my solitude makes me laugh," the pope said, adding that he has a network of friends and aides whom he sees every day. In a letter to Catholic bishops last week, the pope made an unusual public acknowledgment of Vatican mistakes and turmoil in his church over the rehabilitation of Bishop Richard Williamson. While acknowledging mistakes were made in handling the Williamson affair, Benedict said he was saddened that he was criticized "with open hostility" even by those who should have known better. ___ Associated Press Writer Krista Larson in Johannesburg and Emmanuel Tumanjong in Yaounde, Cameroon contributed to this report. About 22 million people in sub-Saharan Africa are infected with HIV and he's against condoms because of artificial contraception. |
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What do you expect of his generation? More of the same, yet nothing changes.
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May be the Popes way to help control the population.
The condoms make great water balloons. |
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What do you expect of his generation? More of the same, yet nothing changes. He's 8 yrs. older then my father. My father has more sense then that. |
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May be the Popes way to help control the population. The condoms make great water balloons. I wouldn't know if they make great water balloons. lol |
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What do you expect of his generation? More of the same, yet nothing changes. He's 8 yrs. older then my father. My father has more sense then that. I don't doubt that for a second.. grin |
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What do you expect of his generation? More of the same, yet nothing changes. He's 8 yrs. older then my father. My father has more sense then that. I don't doubt that for a second.. grin |
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You expect church doctrine to change.
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No sex outside of marriage, no artificial birth control, i.e. condoms,
Being faithful to spousal unit. Nothing new here. |
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While condoms may save the desease to a degree...it really only works if you double up. There are micro holes in them. The aids virus can slip through.
Moral character would have an obvious effect. In Africa though...some men believe that sex with a young child or even a baby will cure them. It's sick...I know....but true. Kat |
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Edited by
madisonman
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Tue 03/17/09 04:30 PM
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Abstinance only eh?
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Abstinance only eh? do they make full body condoms for you or just wrap you in bubble wrap??? |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Tue 03/17/09 04:35 PM
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Abstinance or double cover. It is proposed to have safe sex for three months while having had the tests upon dating then have another after three months. Then to be for sure it is safe...have another test. Total--six months total to know for sure your partner is safe.
Whats wrong with abstinance? I do it. It isn't that hard. Kat |
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Abstinance or double cover. It is proposed to have safe sex for three months while having had the tests upon dating then have another after three months. Then to be for sure it is safe...have another test. Total--six months total to know for sure your partner is safe. Whats wrong with abstinance? I do it. It isn't that hard. Kat true but it's a little different in Africa than here |
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Abstinance only eh? do they make full body condoms for you or just wrap you in bubble wrap??? |
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i believe that the thought is that if you provide condoms, people are more careless. they believe that they are protected and take even more risky behavior.
and yes, abstinence IS more effective; it's also unrealistic. one can't just hand out condoms and expect them to take care of the problem, however...you have to toss in some education and people need to take a bit more care with their bodies. |
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there is no easy answer
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Breaking News: Condoms Make AIDS Worse!
It's surreal to hear the Pope, an old man wholly uncognizant of sexual matters if we can believe his press, announce that condoms "aggravate" the problem of AIDS, not help solve it. On his first trip to Africa, where AIDS has killed over 25 million people, Pope Benedict called AIDS "a tragedy" that can be overcome, not by money, education or "a contraception mentality," but by "the traditional teaching of the Church" on chastity and fidelity, which has worked so well to date. The Pope, who has said the Church is in the forefront of the fight against AIDS, has dismissed suggestions he has grown isolated from the rest of the world: "The myth of my solitude makes me laugh." Not us, though. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2009/03/17 |
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i believe that the thought is that if you provide condoms, people are more careless. they believe that they are protected and take even more risky behavior. and yes, abstinence IS more effective; it's also unrealistic. one can't just hand out condoms and expect them to take care of the problem, however...you have to toss in some education and people need to take a bit more care with their bodies. Absolutely!!!! It's ridiculous to think that people here or anywhere else are going to all of a sudden see the advantages to abstinence, it hasn't happened to date, so assuming it will is strange to me. I have been celibate now for I think 30 years, I never even think about it, but I would be laughed at if I said that that was the solution and every body should just jump on board. That is why I see abstinence as the answer just as silly. People have sex for too many reasons to think that everyone would want to or be capable for it. |
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Breaking News: Condoms Make AIDS Worse! It's surreal to hear the Pope, an old man wholly uncognizant of sexual matters if we can believe his press, announce that condoms "aggravate" the problem of AIDS, not help solve it. On his first trip to Africa, where AIDS has killed over 25 million people, Pope Benedict called AIDS "a tragedy" that can be overcome, not by money, education or "a contraception mentality," but by "the traditional teaching of the Church" on chastity and fidelity, which has worked so well to date. The Pope, who has said the Church is in the forefront of the fight against AIDS, has dismissed suggestions he has grown isolated from the rest of the world: "The myth of my solitude makes me laugh." Not us, though. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2009/03/17 The man is isolated in his own brain it would appear. |
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