not a problem at all. I will defend myself though any time. But on the same note...you aren't very credible yourself.

I said:


You said:


Incoherent.

I take it you don't think that a robbery is a bad thing if it is to help poor. You could just state this.



1. I do not care if it a joy or not. Just don't do it on my money. The rest is none of my business.

2. Should not make any children they don't respect enough to feed. Again, I did not make those children. I have my own to feed.

3. It doesn't have anything to do with prejudice. Since it is my money, I want to have a say as for the conditions these money are spent on. Simple preference. Don't like it? Don't take it!




Who said anything of minorities? I say they are stupid, lazy, dopes or all of the above. Did you see any mention of race?



The motive and meaning behind these messages is simple.

You feel compassionate? Go ahead and pay for the poor. I have no problem with this, and would think of you as of super goofy and stupid, but nevertheless, a good hearted person.

Why do you want to force me into doing it? Is that your understanding of love?

I was wondering where she pulled the race card from. Thought I missed something but I guess not

Some of the people have nothing to compare to, they are raised in a prejudice environment that teaches them that the "others" whoever they choose to hate are less than human and expendable. This applies to all kinds of people, poor, different religions, sexual orientation, body types, race, background, family composition, dress, locale, age, disabilities, etc... It gets ridiculous and I would laugh except it isn't funny how they discriminate and the end result of the discrimination.

that's funny since you are the only one who has brought anything like that up

Apparently, you speak of yourself.

You do not care if you have to rob others to make your world they way you like it. You could just quietly do it yourself, but no, you defend the robbery.

I know why.

Because, you want it to be done by others. And if they don't want to, they be damned. Force them. Kill them if they resist.

How about this, humane one?

I am not forcing you into anything. Don't pay your taxes in protest, please. Be my guest. I will continue to pay mine and be glad that they are helping people regardless to the prejudice folks in this country who want to not be a participant in the wonderful country of ours.

The white racists in this country started this philosophy and have furthered it so they could effect the minorities they don't want here anyway. No empathetic understanding human feels this way, it is a taught hatred and it is covered under the guise of conservatism.

Someone famous said " One cannot gauge a countries wealth by it's rich, it is gauged by the treatment of it's elderly, disabled and poor."

These human services programs help a lot of worthy people. It is a worthy cause.

This is getting boring.

when did race come into play here??? only one person has mentioned race.

when did race come into play here??? only one person has mentioned race.

What do you mean done by others, it seems that is your philosophy, not mine. I want to be a part of this country and the fact that it provides for the underclass.

I would not recommend any others be killed for not agreeing with me. Again, don't pay the taxes if it bothers you so much. It is called protest and I understand it is an American right.

NoGames said:

"2. Should not make any children they don't respect enough to feed. Again, I did not make those children. I have my own to feed."

People that lose their jobs, become disabled, or lose a spouse have children BEFORE these events occur.

By "By others", I meant that you take a particular view (a need to help poor), and then want to force others to build the world that reflect your views.

Now, you have stated your view on taxation. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the taxation should be voluntary. If I don't want to pay, then I shouldn't, and I should not be persecuted.

If that is your view, then I can agree with it. With this condition, a taxation then becomes not a robbery, but only a collection mechanism, for those who wish to participate.

Currently, however, this is not the case with the taxation. If I refuse, I will be persecuted, my private property will be confiscated, I may be imprisoned, and even killed.


Technically, a socialism can exist within a capitalist society as a subset, on a voluntary basis. In practice, it doesn't. Majority pays only because they are forced to do it.

So do people who acquire significant debts BEFORE they go jobless.

So does a proverbial dragonfly which dances all year, BEFORE the winter comes and it has to ask an ant for an assistance.

Having kids is a responsibility. You want it? Take it. But please, please, don't take it expecting to put it on others.

I pay taxes gladly knowing I am part of the greater good. If you don't pay taxes in protest, then you have to face the consequences in order to get the full protest in effect but death is not a part of that. Don't pay if they bother you so bad and go to battle with the government about it.

I know most of the people I know are glad to contribute to the furtherment of this great country.

Do you even realize how much welfare gets paid back through child support? Quite a bit. I was on welfare for a while and my children's father paid every dime back to the welfare for the time I was on with his child support.

I keep telling you you are buying into a hatemongering philosophy hidden under a guise of conservatism.

It seems you have a very narrow view of life.
Better hope Karma doesnt exist or you're fuk'd.

"One cannot gauge a countries wealth by it's rich, it is gauged by the treatment of it's elderly, disabled and poor."

Many people end up having down times in their lives for legitimate reasons and it is a good thing for the government to help it's citizens in these times of need.

Most people have nothing to do with whether this is right or not.

So, then, you're back to your argument that you prefer to force others into your vision of a perfect world, and "a greater good"?

Like I said, then you're just another example of all the "humane" people I know, that are no different than Nazis.

How would you like me then, forcing my vision of perfect world on you? Oh, I forgot! You don't! All I wanted is for the stupid lazy and dopes to take a piss test and pay for it.

I guess it is only about your views.

is that what happened to you fanta???? damn fanta