...may-be that is because I am a big fan of Texas?

go texas and remember the alamo lol

sorry to the OP

I will say there are people on welfare that use it to get back on their feet but most of the people I know on it....it's a career. they go out and party with the money or spend it on things they don't need...like fake nails etc.

I don't mind my taxes helping people that are legit....but i don't want to support anyone just because they can't get off their butts. My aunt is one of them and would move state to state when the welfare ran out

You can not urine test to receive a welfare check.

our tax money would go towards testing them, on top of giving them a welfare check

any recipient of welfare in my state must participate in employment and training for two weeks consecutively 36 hours per week before receiving a welfare check. If they miss one day, they must start over with the two weeks again, and none of the hours they participated in previously count towards their time.

Here is my chance to show you that you won't always agree with me. Sorry, I am a straight shooter, I won't sugar coat it for nothing.

Point 1:

Those who use welfare to get back on their feet, should use their savings that they put away for a day like this, a rainy day. Instead, they were dancing all summer. Now that winter has come, they need someone else savings.

Point 2:

You are (any anyone else) free to help anyone you wish privately, if you feel that these people need money. Why should we take money by force from everyone? Thanks but, no thanks! I'd rather save for a rainy day then feed those who couldn't care less.

lol I know we won't agree...that's why I was surprised. yes a rainy day savings is great....wish My sister had one. she is bed ridden with a blood disease and takes the meds that they give 3rd degree burn victims. her husband has no money to save. I have been a single mom....barely making it. i'm not on any welfare though. it shouldn't be forced...that i agree with...but it is and if they take my money...they need tougher requirements etc so people like my aunt will actually work

Some of them did save and have run through their savings by paying bills.
I see it everyday in Social Services. Most of them are sooo embarrassed to be in Social Services asking for help, they are actually crying their eyes out because they are there, period.

You can not do that anymore. The most a person can collect welfare and not work is 36 months. If they work the required hours, then the months won't count against them.

Medicare and social security
is kinda a different story then people just collecting welfare because they dont want to work or have to many kids they cant work

Well, here is the rub. Some people need it and deserve it, and everyone around them knows it.

Public assistance use to be a private thing, administered through a church or privately. That way, you want to make sure you have a good name and you threat people right. When you're in dire straights, many will come to help you.

Enter the government crapola. Everyone is taxed to help the poor, consequently, everyone's funds are depleted even before there is a chance to help someone. What is the better way to make sure people can't afford to help people then to reduce their available funds?

Secondly, with government assistance in place, we don't know who we help. Beautiful soul that is seriously down on it's luck is lumped together with a beast who wouldn't care of others.

I have long held this view: if one is not a good person, he doesn't deserve any help. Government teaches us otherwise, that everyone deserves help. It is no different than to say everyone deserves to be on the death row. Lumping people together without second look, making us all sheeps, making good people weaker and bad people stronger, this is the primary goal of the government then.

the states have different welfare regulations. and like i said...she goes state to state. people get on disability alot to get money also and they have nothing wrong with them

i can agree with that

double post

Administration fees. Mailing fees for appointment times. Lab fees. Processor fees.

Dope check? That's what you call the check for the poor, disabled or unemployed? Why should they have to pay and be punished more for being poor, disabled or unemployed?

She shouldn't be able to they are running it that way now. Things have changed and no one no matter the state is allowed to have longer than 36 months. The months started when the law passed on it and it is the whole US and that rule in particular is not different per state. You are able to make anonymous reports too. Each state is able to run their benefits on different rules, but certain rules pertain to every state. that is one of them.

Not everybody can afford to have a savings. Many people are barely making it from paycheck to paycheck. Some people that had savings no longer have that money due to medical catastrophes.

I think the most disturbing part is how those we vote into office are exempt from having to ever a drug test.

so do you like the money you earn being spent by someone eles whos buying cigs, beer, weed, and flat screen tvs with it?

well she is....not sure how she is then. so who knows

It isn't enough to even buy that kind of stuff, they would have to be earning unreported money somehow to afford the things you mention. All I can say is all reports are investigated.