yes... I never said it wasn't the same God... God sent His son as a means of obtaining salvation and to do away with Old Testament procedures.

But the SAME god comamnded those "Old Testament procedures."

yes... and he sent is son to earth for us so the old practices would no longer be necessary... instead of us sending him sacrifices, he sent his son to absolve our sins.

why don't we take a look at the fact that carbon dating is severely flawed past 40-50,000 years? how can you tell if something is 2 billion years old when your practices are flawed...

So in the mean time he ordered the death of thousands of people and that doesn’t bother you? Then he sent his only son in order to put a stop to his own Law that told us to stone innocent people to death essentially. That doesn’t bother you at all? Why were those practices even necessary to begin with? He also attempted to drown the entire planet at one point. This god is somewhat irrational and irresponsible. It’s barbaric.

1) The Genesis Creation Myth in the Bible says that God made man directly from the dust of the ground. Evolution says humans are the (current) endproduct of some 3.5 billion years of evolution.

2) The Genesis Creation Myth in the Bible says that God made woman from a rib He yanked out of the first man. Evolution says humans are the (current) endproduct of some 3.5 billion years of evolution.

3) The Genesis Creation Myth in the Bible says that angiosperms appeared before animals. Evolution says that angiosperms appeared some 400 million years after animals did.

4) The Genesis Creation Myth in the Bible says that birds appeared before land animals. Evolution says that birds appeared some 250 million years after land animals did.

5) The Genesis Flood Myth in the Bible says that the animals not on the ark were killed during the flood, only some 4000 years ago. Evolution says no such near-complete mass extinction occurred anywhere near that time.

If you believe its possible, then what is your beef? What are you complaining about?

It’s because he only thinks microevolution is possible. It’s an incredibly worthless discussion.

'What are two platapie in hand worth??'

A good laugh?

Speak for yourself!

Those are the strangest animals. They look "constructed" and not real almost.

I don't understand why a Christian can claim that what they believe is THE TRUTH, and that they don't have to prove it because they admit that it is based on faith.

And then scientists have what they call is THEORY and they have scientific evidence and facts that support that theory and creationist still demand proof.

Proof is a matter of belief. Proof is whether or not you believe the evidence over your Biblical authority. YOU choose what you believe.

Believe what you want. But stop whining about scientific theories that don't agree with your faith based beliefs.

Get over it.

Most of us are just getting tired of explaining it to you people over and over. Even if I did give you proof you would deny it anyway.



First off, I'm going to assume you meant Order or Class. Something much higher than Species, anyway, because guess what? Those finches are different species. Learn to Taxonomic rank.


Macroevolution is happening every single day. The problem is that it takes millions of years for an animal to make a noticeable difference in it's Order. Homo sapiens have only been around about 200,000, and we have been documenting life for an even smaller amount of time.

Was that really so hard for you to figure out on your own?

i absolutely believe in micro because it is 100% proven scientifically, macro has not... there are many flaws. if it was 100% proven, i would 100% believe in it... until then, I have my doubts... is there anything wrong with that?

oh and to the kid quoting Genesis... the Bible is not always to be taken by it's literal written meaning... again i'll bring up the 7 day theory... even I don't take that literally, along with many other Christians... in the Bible it says that a blink of the eye to God is as long as a lifetime... is that literal? maybe, maybe not...

ok, you want proof that there is a God? Look at your eyeball... or your fingerprints... or even the fact that we have higher understanding than every other creature on this planet...or what about your intestines? do you know how long they can stretch out to be? what about the fact that if the earth wasn't on the exact axis that it currently spins, survival would be impossible? or what about the fact that our planet is the only planet to contain life and that if we were closer to the sun we would burn, further we would freeze? do you really want me to go on? look at life around you!

Probably the same way your "God" can kill his only son(who is actually "God") for a sin that didn't really take place, and is just "one of the stories" in the bible. . .

for a sin that didnt really take place? really? everyone in society is flawless and free of evils? oh ok. i'm assuming the next thing you're going to come at me with is that Jesus wasn't real.

Personally, I don't think that Jesus was real. There may have been a "Jesus of Nazareth", but I don't think that the Jesus as presented by the bible ever actually existed.

You really shouldn't assume things, because you know what they say when you assume.

I don't debate on the existence of "God" because so far, the term "God" has not really even been defined. At least, not between you and me.

How do you define "God?"

In fact, I was not even talking about "God." I am talking about the Biblical account of creation. It is the Bible and the New Testament that I have my doubts about.

I think "God" is a term that has not been sufficiently defined so it is pointless to debate about Its existence, unless you can tell me what It is, or what you think It is.

hmm.. you realize that there are more writings about Jesus that came from around the same era right? I guess you don't believe in Roman history either though, right? it is even documented in Jewish rabbinical writings that Jesus was hung for heresy...