Topic: Elephants and Evolution
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Tue 02/10/09 05:21 PM

elephants also weigh more than many cars and have a massive trunk located between both of their eyes... idk, maybe you've seen one before... but anyway, I think this is just another ridiculous theory that evolutionists are trying to use to further "prove" their point. we have similarities to many different animals... if we didn't, a lot of animals would be inadequately built to survive. don't get me wrong, microevolution is an absolutely proven point and is still witnessed to this very day... but if you are trying to tell me that billions of years ago elephants and man split off just because they breast feed and have knees, i dont know about that one...

one more question for you die-hard evolution fans... if macroevolution is real, why has there been no documentation of this in recorded history? have all species merely reached the extent of their evolutionary progress? kinda fishy, eh?



Something Else You Forgot All Animals have Butt holes and Some Animals Talk out of them When they Cannot Except Sciencedrinker

boarderamc's photo
Tue 02/10/09 05:38 PM
wow... for being so highly educated, you people really are quite slow... not one person has tackled my question head on, which is what i've noticed about a lot of atheists/evolutionists/etc... you guys diddle daddle around other scientific theorems and blah blah blah, i want proof people...

something based on science should have scientific proof, and not one of you have managed to come up with a single thing. thank you for further proving my point...

do i have to go into further detail about this micro vs macro bs? ok, here we go... you guys know who darwin is right? right. well, then you probably know about his finches right? ok... that was MICRO *ahem* let me clear my throat... there we go... MICRO evolution. there is SCIENTIFIC PROOF of microevolution... here is the fun and challenging part that no one has seemed to grasp...

show me physical proof that macroevolution is true... and will someone... i know this is a stretch since no one wants to try and answer me... please explain to me why macroevolution is no longer happening... have all creatures reached their maximum evolutionary process?

boarderamc's photo
Tue 02/10/09 05:41 PM


elephants also weigh more than many cars and have a massive trunk located between both of their eyes... idk, maybe you've seen one before... but anyway, I think this is just another ridiculous theory that evolutionists are trying to use to further "prove" their point. we have similarities to many different animals... if we didn't, a lot of animals would be inadequately built to survive. don't get me wrong, microevolution is an absolutely proven point and is still witnessed to this very day... but if you are trying to tell me that billions of years ago elephants and man split off just because they breast feed and have knees, i dont know about that one...

one more question for you die-hard evolution fans... if macroevolution is real, why has there been no documentation of this in recorded history? have all species merely reached the extent of their evolutionary progress? kinda fishy, eh?



Something Else You Forgot All Animals have Butt holes and Some Animals Talk out of them When they Cannot Except Sciencedrinker


sir, i absolutely 100% accept proven science. yes, gravity exists. yes, we are made of things called molecules... these have all been proven scientifically... as for macroevolution...... go ahead, read what i just wrote and dig deep into your massive scientific brain to try and avoid answering my question... which i've stated at least 5-7 times so if you forget, i suggest you scroll up...

Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/10/09 05:41 PM
Edited by Seamonster on Tue 02/10/09 05:41 PM

Aren't elephants one of the only animals, aside from humans, that mourn the dead?


yes in a way,
chips have been known to mourn their dead, but elephants seem to realize their own mortality.

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Tue 02/10/09 05:51 PM

wow... for being so highly educated, you people really are quite slow... not one person has tackled my question head on, which is what i've noticed about a lot of atheists/evolutionists/etc... you guys diddle daddle around other scientific theorems and blah blah blah, i want proof people...

something based on science should have scientific proof, and not one of you have managed to come up with a single thing. thank you for further proving my point...

do i have to go into further detail about this micro vs macro bs? ok, here we go... you guys know who darwin is right? right. well, then you probably know about his finches right? ok... that was MICRO *ahem* let me clear my throat... there we go... MICRO evolution. there is SCIENTIFIC PROOF of microevolution... here is the fun and challenging part that no one has seemed to grasp...

show me physical proof that macroevolution is true... and will someone... i know this is a stretch since no one wants to try and answer me... please explain to me why macroevolution is no longer happening... have all creatures reached their maximum evolutionary process?
Your proof is all over the internet, your creationist number 10,000,072 here on these forums to ask for proof we are tired of making the same old arguments that get ignored.

If you REALLY want to understand the proof that exists, then you will study the information and learn as much as you can about evolution, I went to the trouble of creating an entire thread chalked full of information including the LEGAL proof that evolution Macro and all happened, and that there is no science behind creation stories.

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/202703

The answer is yes.

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Tue 02/10/09 05:56 PM

wow... for being so highly educated, you people really are quite slow... not one person has tackled my question head on, which is what i've noticed about a lot of atheists/evolutionists/etc... you guys diddle daddle around other scientific theorems and blah blah blah, i want proof people...

something based on science should have scientific proof, and not one of you have managed to come up with a single thing. thank you for further proving my point...

do i have to go into further detail about this micro vs macro bs? ok, here we go... you guys know who darwin is right? right. well, then you probably know about his finches right? ok... that was MICRO *ahem* let me clear my throat... there we go... MICRO evolution. there is SCIENTIFIC PROOF of microevolution... here is the fun and challenging part that no one has seemed to grasp...

show me physical proof that macroevolution is true... and will someone... i know this is a stretch since no one wants to try and answer me... please explain to me why macroevolution is no longer happening... have all creatures reached their maximum evolutionary process?



boarderamc.

If you are so big on proof, then why have I not seen you in my thread on "How did he do it? (God) concerning HOW God made a man out of mud and then breathed life into him.

I am not even asking for PROOF. I am asking for any Christian who has any imagination at all to see if they can come up with a reasonable solution to the question... how is the creation story in the Bible even logical or how does it make any sense at all.

So if you are so smart in the ways of God, then please visit my thread and tell everyone HOW DID GOD DO IT?

If I don't see your explanation in my thread soon I will assume that you are all talk and no action and that you don't know.

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/203367


Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:02 PM

wow... for being so highly educated, you people really are quite slow... not one person has tackled my question head on, which is what i've noticed about a lot of atheists/evolutionists/etc... you guys diddle daddle around other scientific theorems and blah blah blah, i want proof people...

something based on science should have scientific proof, and not one of you have managed to come up with a single thing. thank you for further proving my point...

do i have to go into further detail about this micro vs macro bs? ok, here we go... you guys know who darwin is right? right. well, then you probably know about his finches right? ok... that was MICRO *ahem* let me clear my throat... there we go... MICRO evolution. there is SCIENTIFIC PROOF of microevolution... here is the fun and challenging part that no one has seemed to grasp...

show me physical proof that macroevolution is true... and will someone... i know this is a stretch since no one wants to try and answer me... please explain to me why macroevolution is no longer happening... have all creatures reached their maximum evolutionary process?


I have shown evidence over and over for evolution but it doest matter because christians just have a deep seeded need to believe and will refuse to see whats right in front of them.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:09 PM
wow... for being so highly educated, you people really are quite slow...


Okay boarderamc,

You have tons of proof and tons of things to think about and read. How 'slow' are you? How highly educated are you? How much do you really know about evolution and how much do you really know about HOW God created Adam out of mud and breathed life into him?

How did he do that? I want to know how that is reasonable to you and if you have any proof of anything you claim is true?


http://mingle2.com/topic/show/203367

Give it your best shot.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:11 PM
here is one thing that really confuses me about evolutionists... the whole fossil record thing... why would you take to heart something that the founder (charles darwin) didn't even recognize as supporting fact for evolution? fossils without links prove nothing...

also, how can a cell (organic life) be created from inorganic matter? with all of the technology we have today, scientists STILL cannot create a left-hand protein molecule (found in all animals).


Krimsa's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:16 PM
There is nothing in the fossil record that Charles Darwin did not predict would be there....

boarderamc's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:17 PM
yes, i know how God created man and I know that woman was created from the rib of man... i also, in a previous post, told you that Christianity is not a scientific belief... it is a belief of faith. I have no physical evidence of how He created the Earth, which is why I have repeatedly said that I am not denouncing the idea of evolution... if my God can do absolutely anything, to say that he couldnt have used macroevolution would be to contradict myself.

why do you people keep overlooking and purposely twisting what I say? YES EVOLUTION WAS POSSIBLE... do I need to put it in all caps? I'm just like every one of you out there, seeking the truth. Does it piss you off that much that I question a theory that is riddled with holes? You all can think I'm a close minded Christian, but that is far from the truth. Why is it that only Christians are close minded? what about all you evolutionists out there that are closing your mind to the thought of an omnipotent being? that right there would be the definition of close-mindedness.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:20 PM

There is nothing in the fossil record that Charles Darwin did not predict would be there....


who gives a rats ass? he didn't believe it proved his theory so that should give you a little hint... if Jesus Christ, while dying on the cross, said he wasn't really God's son who would even follow Christianity?

Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:22 PM

here is one thing that really confuses me about evolutionists... the whole fossil record thing... why would you take to heart something that the founder (charles darwin) didn't even recognize as supporting fact for evolution? fossils without links prove nothing...

also, how can a cell (organic life) be created from inorganic matter? with all of the technology we have today, scientists STILL cannot create a left-hand protein molecule (found in all animals).





pfft,
60 yrs ago we said science still hast put a man on the moon.
30 yrs ago cloneing was stull in sci-fi books,
20yrs ago we still hadnt crack the gnome.
You can't judge science by what we havent done yet.
Science is haveing an idea and triyng to disprove it.
Religion is haveing an idea and then twisting or disregarding facts to make that idea seem plausible.

Krimsa's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:22 PM


There is nothing in the fossil record that Charles Darwin did not predict would be there....


who gives a rats ass? he didn't believe it proved his theory so that should give you a little hint... if Jesus Christ, while dying on the cross, said he wasn't really God's son who would even follow Christianity?


If Jesus had never been nailed to a pole, you wouldnt even have a road to salvation today. You should be thanking the Romans.

Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:24 PM


There is nothing in the fossil record that Charles Darwin did not predict would be there....


who gives a rats ass? he didn't believe it proved his theory so that should give you a little hint... if Jesus Christ, while dying on the cross, said he wasn't really God's son who would even follow Christianity?


and what of Krishna when they killed him?
he still was called the son of god and they still follow him.
No real diffrence in story lines.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:26 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 02/10/09 06:48 PM

yes, i know how God created man and I know that woman was created from the rib of man... i also, in a previous post, told you that Christianity is not a scientific belief... it is a belief of faith. I have no physical evidence of how He created the Earth, which is why I have repeatedly said that I am not denouncing the idea of evolution... if my God can do absolutely anything, to say that he couldnt have used macroevolution would be to contradict myself.

why do you people keep overlooking and purposely twisting what I say? YES EVOLUTION WAS POSSIBLE... do I need to put it in all caps? I'm just like every one of you out there, seeking the truth. Does it piss you off that much that I question a theory that is riddled with holes? You all can think I'm a close minded Christian, but that is far from the truth. Why is it that only Christians are close minded? what about all you evolutionists out there that are closing your mind to the thought of an omnipotent being? that right there would be the definition of close-mindedness.


I'm NOT an "evolutionist." Evolution is scientific THEORY.
I am not a scientist.

I am just curious WHY anyone would believe something illogical and unreasonable on faith and at the same time, be disturbed by scientific facts and theories.

I don't understand the reasoning in that.


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Tue 02/10/09 06:28 PM



There is nothing in the fossil record that Charles Darwin did not predict would be there....


who gives a rats ass? he didn't believe it proved his theory so that should give you a little hint... if Jesus Christ, while dying on the cross, said he wasn't really God's son who would even follow Christianity?


If Jesus had never been nailed to a pole, you wouldnt even have a road to salvation today. You should be thanking the Romans.


Not only me, but everybody else would have no road to salvation... well, no easy road that is (read Exodus and Leviticus to see what life would be like without Jesus).

As for the Romans, I really have no place to be thanking them... after all, it was God's plan for Christ to be crucified... it just so happened that the Romans were the ones to follow through with His plan.

Krimsa's photo
Tue 02/10/09 06:30 PM
You also can’t just keep asking for more and more evidence when already you have been given an awful lot as it relates to evolutionary theory. Christians seem to think that they can continually keep denying the process if they "can’t see it." Well go to any museum of Natural History and you can see it. It’s not fair just to keep demanding that every last bone is dug up when some of these are millions of years old. We don’t even need that anymore. There is enough credible evidence to support what they have and they are only achieving better and more conclusive explanations through DNA sequencing now.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:31 PM


I'm NOT an "evolutionist." Evolution is scientific THEORY.
I am not a scientist.

I am just curious WHY anyone would belief something illogical and unreasonable on faith and at the same time, be disturbed by scientific facts and theories.

I don't understand the reasoning in that.




... you are really thick headed arent ya? I absolutely believe evolution was possible, but the evidence provided is riddled with holes... there, that is my reasoning. why dont you fully read what I write instead of just hitting the quote button.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:32 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 06:33 PM
Not only me, but everybody else would have no road to salvation... well, no easy road that is (read Exodus and Leviticus to see what life would be like without Jesus).


Exactly and that was commanded by Yahweh. You can’t separate old from New Testament. It was ALL the same god.