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Topic: Read your Bible!
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Sat 02/07/09 01:43 PM

None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



drinker I shouldn't be, but I'm still amazed at the lengths people will go to explain away the contradictions, errors and historical inaccuracies found in the bible.


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Sat 02/07/09 01:45 PM
Edited by SweetnFunny on Sat 02/07/09 01:46 PM
feralcatlady wrote:


There are no contradictions only people's misunderstanding of what they are reading.




That's ironic. laugh

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Sat 02/07/09 01:54 PM
Krisma.....

Well you think wrong...Christ never rejected OT Law. He rejected money changers at the house of the Lord. Sometimes I wonder where in the heck you get your information from. When Jesus stopped the stoning of Mary for example...He was asking the people those without sin cast the first stone...For the simple fact that no one not one is sinless except Christ. So again you have taken scripture and twisted it to fit your beliefs. It is not God nor Jesus that stones people it is the people. And what about the people and what they did to Jesus....I don't see you bringing that one up...Talking about an injustice...They let a murderer go and killed a sinless man......go figure.

The Laws were the laws like it or not Krisma it was what it was at the time. Just like throughout history we night not like how things were done but it will never change the fact that indeed that was how it was in that particular time.

And tell me something Krisma how many people get wrongly convicted and go to prison. Exactly......so no difference. How many people have been put to death her were innocent......

It is really easy to misinterpret anything in the Bible if your just looking for fault. Your not reading it as it was intended to be read...therefore you are doing for your own agenda instead of as God's teachings, Christ teachings and the Disciples teachings.

Again Krisma for woman throughout time it has been this way...It still is so what exactly is your point....I don't see you bashing anything else just God, the Bible and Jesus....Why is that Krisma...What happen in your life that made this so for you.

You meant that I don't need to take this biblical injustices as the word of the creator...ARE YOU NEW....Are you daft....and you talk about my intelligence.....You silly woman so tell me then throughout time it has always been tough for women...so who's fault is it now..Because jest you think it is God when there are to many that don't believe in Him.....Now also remember this Krisma Christ had women in his ministry and in my opinion if it were not for the women of his ministry he would of never been able to do what he did.....So you want to boo hoo for the women of the Bible...Please.......If you could ask them right now they would not change a thing.

And maybe instead of complaining about it here maybe do as I do and make a difference for woman of the world and the injustices they have. Now I am going to assume you live in the United States of America....Are you doing anything for the genital mutilation in Africa, are you doing anything for the women of Iraq, or anywhere else in the world. Well K...I am and I do.....So if you want to really look at the injustices to women take a look at the world we live in and do something about it.

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Sat 02/07/09 01:58 PM


Miles wrote:

All those places you see G-d that has been translated from the word Elohim. Elohim can mean several things. A judge as in athority. An Ambassador. Yahshua refered to himself as Elohim and they wanted to kill him and he said do you not know we are all Elohim. Speaking that the people judged each other.

Yahshua was the word. He could be seen. He was Yahweh's Ambassador coming in his name. He was in the burning Bush. He fought with Jacob. He gave the commandments as he was told the same as the NT.

None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles



I get what you're saying, but translation errors are only a part of the problem. Check out this site. http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm
The author, Scott Bidstrup, gives a really good historical perspective.




There are no contradictions only people's misunderstanding of what they are reading.




I know you mean well but this guy is trying to sell books to gay people.

Paul was called a Pharasee of Pharasees. We see Paul sacraficing in acts 21. He speaks of the Law often.

Paul was not gay as this guy suggests.

He says he is open that is why he can show these things.

He uses Yahweh throughout the OT.. Then in the NT he gives for names for the messiah he says they were called then. Remember the letter J did not appear untill the KJV 1500 years later. He is no expert at all. He is trying to appeal to the gay population to give them fire power towards the churches.. He is pretty slick i will give him that. But in the 1st century thier was no NT. and all scripture they use and even say it is good for correction is the OT. And if i remember right wasn't Lois Pauls Mother in law. People are good at twisting things especially if it will inflate thier poctet book...Blessings...Miles

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Sat 02/07/09 01:59 PM
I've read it. It didn't change a thing for me.

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Sat 02/07/09 02:03 PM



None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



I have been on here for 2 years Krisma. I have yet to have one that i could not show that it was not a contrdiction..Blessings..Miles


All you need do is click on my profile and look up my posts since I have joined.



Well I guess you can go click on mine and see where you all got mad at me because I used scripture to point out what the scripture was talking about. I was not being fair i was told.

If you want me to show you you will have to do it a couple at a time.. I am sure you have 50 + ones.

That is to much to concentrate on. and takes forever when all you have to do is copy and paste.

So i will do 2 at a time if you wish.

Blessings of Shalom....Miles

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Sat 02/07/09 02:04 PM


None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



drinker I shouldn't be, but I'm still amazed at the lengths people will go to explain away the contradictions, errors and historical inaccuracies found in the bible.






What makes you an authority of the most read book in history?

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Sat 02/07/09 02:06 PM




None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



I have been on here for 2 years Krisma. I have yet to have one that i could not show that it was not a contrdiction..Blessings..Miles


All you need do is click on my profile and look up my posts since I have joined.



Well I guess you can go click on mine and see where you all got mad at me because I used scripture to point out what the scripture was talking about. I was not being fair i was told.

If you want me to show you you will have to do it a couple at a time.. I am sure you have 50 + ones.

That is to much to concentrate on. and takes forever when all you have to do is copy and paste.

So i will do 2 at a time if you wish.

Blessings of Shalom....Miles


Miles forgive me but I have never once seen you do that. At least not with any of my posts. I’ve never gotten mad at you once. You know me. I always welcome anyone who would like to take these passages on.

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Sat 02/07/09 02:14 PM





None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



I have been on here for 2 years Krisma. I have yet to have one that i could not show that it was not a contrdiction..Blessings..Miles


All you need do is click on my profile and look up my posts since I have joined.



Well I guess you can go click on mine and see where you all got mad at me because I used scripture to point out what the scripture was talking about. I was not being fair i was told.

If you want me to show you you will have to do it a couple at a time.. I am sure you have 50 + ones.

That is to much to concentrate on. and takes forever when all you have to do is copy and paste.

So i will do 2 at a time if you wish.

Blessings of Shalom....Miles


Miles forgive me but I have never once seen you do that. At least not with any of my posts. I’ve never gotten mad at you once. You know me. I always welcome anyone who would like to take these passages on.


No you have never Krisma.. This may of even been before you came on these boards. But many came after me to debunk the scriptures and they got frustrated when i could show thier meaning and quit asking me anything at all. i am just saying well actually i have been trying to stay away from these boards but i do come back it seems like. I have not seen any that i cared to mess with. i have seen some and the thread was going good a good discussion and people actually having to study some to try and answer you so i stayed out of it.

Since i am back if you want to give me 2 at a time i will do my best to try and explain them by the word itself..the best i can...Blessings...Milesflowerforyou drinker

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Sat 02/07/09 02:55 PM


SATAN AND GOD ARE ONLY "STATES OF MIND" that exist in HUMANS...........

nothing has seen the face of god or satan???

why???

because IT IS ONLY HUMANS???

was HITLER THE FACE OF SATAN???

perhaps, but if one think so, then it despise, then blind itself while the same "first motive" that created hitler is created within oneself???

one deem it not possible, BUT LESS ONE HAS ALL MILLIONS OF OTHERS AGREEING WITH SELF, HOW DOES ONE KNOW WHAT IT'S OWN MIND CAN FALL PREY TO???

which one here has MILLIONS SAYING SELF IS CORRECT???

if one believe it is of god, then it has become as of satan, and if one believe it be of satan, then it has become as god???

but does ANYTHING THAT IS "CONTENT AS "I AM", WISH TO BE EITHER???

did it not say "what is UP to man is DOWN to god, and what is DOWN to man is UP with god???

so just saying the BRAIN WORK OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT "WILL ITSELF TO"???

try to have a good day, and see how fast it is turned to bad???

why???

because self WILLED ITSELF TO A CONSTANT STATE OF MIND???

when the brain is just like all other things, it MUST BE IN MOVEMENT or it is not alive???

so if it WILL ITSELF TO A PARTICULAR STATE, THEN IT IS BECOME AS THE OPPOSITE, and since it "look" to find the "evidence" of what itself is, IT WILL ONLY "SEE" THE DATA THAT SUPPORT IT'S OWN FIRST BELIEF???

look into the workings of the brain, and low and behold, TELL ONE "NO" OVER SOMETHING IT REALLY WISH FOR, IT WISH FOR IT MORE???

tell one to share, it become as consumed with greed???

there are many snares, so THERE IS NO CONSTANT, AS EACH THING AS IT COMES IT "NEVER" A CONSTANT, so self is decieved by MAKING IT A CONSTANT???

the same as one thinking some "magic" words spoken, as to be "saved" make it not able to be decieved???

this IN ITSELF, MAKE ONE PRONE MOST TO DECIET OF MIND???

the same as calling self a "good person", or a "christian", or an "athiest", or a ANY IMAGE IT PICK FOR ITSELF, as this HIDE SELF CANNOT "PICK WHAT IT WISH TO BE", as it is ONLY WHAT IT IS EACH SECOND, wish BETTER BE CHANGING AT ALL TIMES, OR SELF IS DILUTED???

convinced it is NOW SOMEHTING, SO HIDING WHAT ITSELF IS???

look into environment???

if a man think in his mind, I AM A HUMK, HAS HE NOW LOST HIS TRUE HUNK ABILITY???

AND SMARTER WOMEN WILL TELL HIM, BUT HE BELIEVE HIS OWN MIND MOST, AND ACTUALLY SURROUND HIMSELF WITH ONLY WOMEN THAT AGREE WITH HIS MIND???

if a women "think" in her mind, I AM BETTER THAN A MAN, has she not become as less, BY THINKING SHE IS MORE???

the same as a man that think the same???

if a women think she is "smokin hot", the smokin hot becomeas as diluted, so slooooooooowly, that before long, she look just as hardened and desperate as the bar flie's she once despised???

any different for a man???

NOT ONE ITOTA!!!

tell one it is "good" to share, then it become as consumed with sharing only for a "belief of self as good", so it does not share for the sake of the sight of another's need, BUT MOST FOR ITSELF, TO WILL ITSELF AND "THINK OF ITSELF" AS A GOOD SHARING PERSON???

satan come as an "angel of light" in the mind, making self believe it is correct, while others of course are not correct???

self "emotions" are pure, while others are NOT???

self perception is accurate, and of course, the "other" is confused, even delusional???

THE WILL and inert push and desire and force TO "BE LOVED", INSTEAD OF TO LOVE???

a self defeating misery self create for itself???

the will to LOVE, but if GOOD IS NOT RETURNED UNTO SELF, then self has been abused, SHOWING SELF NEVER REALLY "LOVED", JUST "THOUGHT" and convinced itself IT LOVED, TO GET BACK LOVE???

please, it is not hard to see "what first motive's within the human heart that create "all first evils, that left alone, BECOME AS ROARING LIONS, THAT CAN EVEN KILL ONE THAT HAS BETRAYED SELF", OR THAT IS DEEMED AS LESS VALUE THAN SELF, BECAUSE SELF IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF TRUTH AND VALUE???

wish for a "christian family", and one SEE NOT IT DOES NOT REALLY CARE, EXCEPT FOR WHAT GIVE BACK TO ITSELF, AND MAKE ITSELF AS IMPORTANT???

how is that the conscious mind is blind to it's own inert hidden motive's???

the FIRST DAY AND TIME IT SEE ANOTHER'S FAULT, AND NOT SEE THE SAME WITHIN SELF AT ALL TIMES???

because it see OTHERS evil, and LOOK NOT TO INSPECT SELF AND SEE IF THE SAME EXIST, but only look to see how it does not, so this "evidence it will surely find, as IT HAS INFINITE ACTIONS OF SELF TO LOOK AT FOR EVIDENCE, SO OF COURSE, IT PULL THE FILE ON IT'S LONG LIST OF "GOOD DEEDS" THAT SELF KEEP A TOTAL MENTAL ROLODEX OF???

what made JIM JONES NOT SEE HIS OWN SELF DELUSION???

SEEING AND ACCESSING FROM HIS OWN PERSONAL ROLODEX OF ALL HIS "GOOD" HE DID, AND TAKING ALL THE WORDS OF OTHER'S HE "SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH", THAT ONLY VALIDATED WHAT HE HIMSELF FIRST THOUGHT OF HIMSELF???

then it becomes more clear why it was said, love thy enemey, as THE ENEMY WILL TELL ONESELF LIKE IT IS, AND IF THESE WORDS ARE BELIEVED, THEN SELF IS RESCUED FROM ITSELF, AND IT'S OWN DELUSION OF MIND???

to be saved from what???

the limited SIGHT that create a self defeating energy, that the conscious mind is as drawn to like a magnet, within itself, that keep the eye's looking unto the ground, trying to till the ground of environment to give "itself" what it has not???

it matters not what religion one find that convince itself it is MO GOOD, as the VERY MOTIVE TO SEEK TO PROVE AND GIVE SELF MOST, WILL CREATE DELUSION FROM ANY WORDS HEARD, no matter where they come from???













Instead of just writing a bunch of words try showing what you say from a manuscript that has stood the test of time.

Thier is no other way to Yahweh. thier is 1.

It is his name to be called upon.

Why? Because you declare that he made the Heavens and the Earth and all that is in them and thier is no other.

Thats why thier are 3 stern commandments about this.


Majic words. You want to call what Yahweh has said Majic?

Thats dangerous territory David.

It says Every one who Calls upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved.

Yahweh the father.

But what else does it say thier?

Yahshua's name Yahweh saves is its meaning he always pointed to the father not himself..


Then it says that no one can call upon this saving name and be against us.

They can not do it. They will refuse to do it because of what it entails in it. The Prophecy of Jeremiah on the day of Pentecost.


Broad is the way to destruction and many go that way but narrow is the way to life and few thier be that find it.

You are to search for the truth with a open heart and only Yahweh's word as your test of truth.

I do not know where you get you words at. But they mix truth with lies and the end result can only be a lie for thier is only 1 way and you need to seek it out and try your best to find it..Shalom...Miles


what be harder, to take words from another and "believe" they be good logic, because one was told they are, OR, to have proof for oneself, from wihtin oneself, of what is real, and does not need to see other's as right or wrong to KNOW IT???

find WHAT MILES???

you believe your "truth" because your mind "found" proof to MAKE PROVE WHAT IT 'WANTED AND SOUGHT TO BELIEVE???

your belief "SATISFIES" A NEED OF SELF TO "PROVE" TO SELF IT IS GOOD???

THIS BE THE GREATEST DECEPTION THAT HAS BEFALLEN ANY IN DAYS PAST, in ALL OF HISTORY???

WHAT MADE ANY PUT OTHER'S TO DEATH???

WHAT MADE ANY OTHER TORTURE OR INFLICT PAIN ON ANOTHER???

IT HAD TO FIRST ACCESS ITSELF AS BETTER???

OF HIGHER VALUE???

IT'S OWN NEEDS AS MOST PAROMOUNT, THEN IT IS CONVINCED TO DO MANY THINGS, BUT WHAT IS THE "FIRST BELIEF" THAT MUST BE PRESENT FOR ANY EVIL ACT TO BE COMMITTED???

look into the HUMAN EMOTION, see and feel for yourself, putting yourself in ole hitler's shoes???

WHAT DID HILTER HAVE TO "FIRST" WISH???

TO PROVE HIMSELF AS "RIGHT"???

to prove to himself is was MOST CORRECT???

then, this later turned into many others thing, BUT SEEING THR ROOT MOTIVE, be the only thing that keep anything in itself from falling to the same deception???

the name yaweh taken unto self is a image of god, a curse unto emtotional death, as IT DECLARE A NAME AS VALUE, not seeing nothing's "name" give it value???

yaweh is a title dude, and MEANS NOTHING???

if you think a "name" saves you, then THIS BE THE MOST PROOF YOU ARE NOT YET SAVED FROM YOURSELF, and your minds NEED TO MAKE ONESELF AS MO GOOD???

this is the motive of the curse of self blindness???

did you read any of the words, PAST WHAT SELF ALREADY THINK, OF SELF AS MOST "GODLY"???

WHAT DO YOU NEED SAVED FROM MILES???

answer that question within yourself, and YOU BECOME AS SAVED???

to LAY DOWN this MOTIVE be the very saving the whole text is speaking of???




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Sat 02/07/09 02:56 PM






None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



I have been on here for 2 years Krisma. I have yet to have one that i could not show that it was not a contrdiction..Blessings..Miles


All you need do is click on my profile and look up my posts since I have joined.



Well I guess you can go click on mine and see where you all got mad at me because I used scripture to point out what the scripture was talking about. I was not being fair i was told.

If you want me to show you you will have to do it a couple at a time.. I am sure you have 50 + ones.

That is to much to concentrate on. and takes forever when all you have to do is copy and paste.

So i will do 2 at a time if you wish.

Blessings of Shalom....Miles


Miles forgive me but I have never once seen you do that. At least not with any of my posts. I’ve never gotten mad at you once. You know me. I always welcome anyone who would like to take these passages on.


No you have never Krisma.. This may of even been before you came on these boards. But many came after me to debunk the scriptures and they got frustrated when i could show thier meaning and quit asking me anything at all. i am just saying well actually i have been trying to stay away from these boards but i do come back it seems like. I have not seen any that i cared to mess with. i have seen some and the thread was going good a good discussion and people actually having to study some to try and answer you so i stayed out of it.

Since i am back if you want to give me 2 at a time i will do my best to try and explain them by the word itself..the best i can...Blessings...Milesflowerforyou drinker


Well all I can tell you is that I have been posting them and so far no one has "debunked" any of them. They just create a lot of arguing.

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Sat 02/07/09 04:44 PM









Directed at OP


How do we know you have read the bible? I asked you about some of those misogynist passages and you acted confused and said you "would need to place me in contact with a female Christian." huh


I was not confused, I saw that you was reaching out for help and i thought a woman would be of more help. Ask again i will try to help you.

EPHESIANS 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.




I wasn’t asking you for "help" I rattled off a few passages from the bible that were directed at women and quite hateful and you insisted that you weren’t sure about that but that you could "put me in touch with a female Christian."

My question is how can we know that you have read the bible at all when you didnt recognize those passages?


If you want answers to something just ask I read the bible what do want to know. You took the verses out of context. People in the bible did some evil things, God didn’t. You have to be saved to understand the full meaning of it until then all you will understand for sure is that Jesus Christ died to save you from your sin.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

LUKE 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

JOHN 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you believe that Jesus died for your sin?


If you believe ask for salvation. its as easy as having faith that died and was buried and rose three days later.

Here is a simple prayer you can pray to God. Saying this prayer is a way to declare to God that you are relying on Jesus Christ for your salvation. The words themselves will not save you. Only faith in Jesus Christ can provide salvation! “God I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve, so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. With your help, I place my trust in you for salvation, and I ask that you will forgive me of my sins. I thank you for your wonderful grace and forgiveness.




Yes what is your view of the man of sin?

He is called the Lawless one.

What is Lawless? Blessings...Miles


There is the law and there is Gods law. The lawless one is not obeying God’s law.

1TIMOTHY 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,



Thier are a lot of thought about what that law is.

What do you see this law as being as he also comes as a angel of light and his ministers are also transformered in to ministers of light.


God’s law is the Ten Commandments and more when Jesus came to earth he told us to love God with all our heart and to love our neighbor like we love ourselves.

DEUTERONOMY 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

MATTHEW 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two
commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

We need to beware because the devil himself is transformed into an angel of light and his followers.

2CORINTHIANS 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.





For all I know you could be Satan, how's that?


How would you check that out?

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Sat 02/07/09 04:47 PM



None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



drinker I shouldn't be, but I'm still amazed at the lengths people will go to explain away the contradictions, errors and historical inaccuracies found in the bible.






What makes you an authority of the most read book in history?


Wow, did I hit a nerve? I'm not claiming to be an authority any more than the next person. I read the bible, asked questions, and when they weren't answered began looking elsewhere.
Consider this...
For some conservative catholic scholars, the earth and the universe was created 5199 B.C. while some conservative Protestant scholars understand this event was in 4004 B.C. (from the bible's internal chronology) Astrophysicists understand from data compiled by the orbiting Hubble Space Telescope that the earth is 4 billion years old and the universe is 14 billion years old.
If the Bible has the age of the earth and universe wrong what else does it have wrong? Archaeology and geology reveals there never was a Garden of Eden or Adam and Eve, nor was there ever in the earth's geologic history a universal Noah's Flood, and the Exodus -as portrayed in the Bible- is fiction according to the findings of archaeology.
People don't want to hear stuff like this, though. Because then they'd have to consider the possiblity that the bible is inaccurate. And if it's inaccurate..was it really written by God? And so on.....

Like I said....I shouldn't be, but I'm still amazed at the lengths people will go to explain away the contradictions, errors and inaccuracies in the bible.

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Sat 02/07/09 04:57 PM




None of those are contradictions. The English language translation is what is at fault not the word of Yahweh and any serious student knows these things... Blessings...Miles


There are TONS of contradictions and errors in the bible. There have been so many posted on this forum alone, I cant even count. noway



drinker I shouldn't be, but I'm still amazed at the lengths people will go to explain away the contradictions, errors and historical inaccuracies found in the bible.






What makes you an authority of the most read book in history?


Wow, did I hit a nerve? I'm not claiming to be an authority any more than the next person. I read the bible, asked questions, and when they weren't answered began looking elsewhere.
Consider this...
For some conservative catholic scholars, the earth and the universe was created 5199 B.C. while some conservative Protestant scholars understand this event was in 4004 B.C. (from the bible's internal chronology) Astrophysicists understand from data compiled by the orbiting Hubble Space Telescope that the earth is 4 billion years old and the universe is 14 billion years old.
If the Bible has the age of the earth and universe wrong what else does it have wrong? Archaeology and geology reveals there never was a Garden of Eden or Adam and Eve, nor was there ever in the earth's geologic history a universal Noah's Flood, and the Exodus -as portrayed in the Bible- is fiction according to the findings of archaeology.
People don't want to hear stuff like this, though. Because then they'd have to consider the possiblity that the bible is inaccurate. And if it's inaccurate..was it really written by God? And so on.....

Like I said....I shouldn't be, but I'm still amazed at the lengths people will go to explain away the contradictions, errors and inaccuracies in the bible.


Read Gen 1 again. it does not say the earth is made then. it says the earth was void and with out form and chaos was on the earth.

everything had died. Just as science says or at least most had. Then Gen 2 :4 says this is the history of when Yahweh created the heavens and the earth. This was a recreation of a world that had basically died. Sure thier were dinasours and i do not question any age scientists say. Yahweh has always been so how long is that

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Sat 02/07/09 05:00 PM
There are two contradictory accounts of Creation in Genesis.

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Sat 02/07/09 05:23 PM

No, not at all.

Paul says "the head of the woman is the man," meaning that the women are to be subordinate to men.

1 Corinthians 11

11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


Thank you (feralcatlady)

I could not have put that better. That’s why I suggested I put you in contact with a woman.

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Sat 02/07/09 05:24 PM


No, not at all.

Paul says "the head of the woman is the man," meaning that the women are to be subordinate to men.

1 Corinthians 11

11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


Thank you (feralcatlady)

I could not have put that better. That’s why I suggested I put you in contact with a woman.




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That was my quote!

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Sat 02/07/09 05:31 PM
It's just truth....and yes I would take a contradiction and show you why it isn't...because then you may say hmmmmmm well that isn't a contradiction I just misunderstood it which happens more then you could imagine.


feralcatlady wrote:



There are no contradictions only people's misunderstanding of what they are reading.




That's ironic. laugh

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Sat 02/07/09 05:33 PM



No, not at all.

Paul says "the head of the woman is the man," meaning that the women are to be subordinate to men.

1 Corinthians 11

11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


Thank you (feralcatlady)

I could not have put that better. That’s why I suggested I put you in contact with a woman.




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That was my quote!


So let me get this straight. You mistook this quote of mine as being Feral's. Does that mean that you agree with what I said? laugh

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Sat 02/07/09 05:38 PM



SATAN AND GOD ARE ONLY "STATES OF MIND" that exist in HUMANS...........

nothing has seen the face of god or satan???

why???

because IT IS ONLY HUMANS???

was HITLER THE FACE OF SATAN???

perhaps, but if one think so, then it despise, then blind itself while the same "first motive" that created hitler is created within oneself???

one deem it not possible, BUT LESS ONE HAS ALL MILLIONS OF OTHERS AGREEING WITH SELF, HOW DOES ONE KNOW WHAT IT'S OWN MIND CAN FALL PREY TO???

which one here has MILLIONS SAYING SELF IS CORRECT???

if one believe it is of god, then it has become as of satan, and if one believe it be of satan, then it has become as god???

but does ANYTHING THAT IS "CONTENT AS "I AM", WISH TO BE EITHER???

did it not say "what is UP to man is DOWN to god, and what is DOWN to man is UP with god???

so just saying the BRAIN WORK OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT "WILL ITSELF TO"???

try to have a good day, and see how fast it is turned to bad???

why???

because self WILLED ITSELF TO A CONSTANT STATE OF MIND???

when the brain is just like all other things, it MUST BE IN MOVEMENT or it is not alive???

so if it WILL ITSELF TO A PARTICULAR STATE, THEN IT IS BECOME AS THE OPPOSITE, and since it "look" to find the "evidence" of what itself is, IT WILL ONLY "SEE" THE DATA THAT SUPPORT IT'S OWN FIRST BELIEF???

look into the workings of the brain, and low and behold, TELL ONE "NO" OVER SOMETHING IT REALLY WISH FOR, IT WISH FOR IT MORE???

tell one to share, it become as consumed with greed???

there are many snares, so THERE IS NO CONSTANT, AS EACH THING AS IT COMES IT "NEVER" A CONSTANT, so self is decieved by MAKING IT A CONSTANT???

the same as one thinking some "magic" words spoken, as to be "saved" make it not able to be decieved???

this IN ITSELF, MAKE ONE PRONE MOST TO DECIET OF MIND???

the same as calling self a "good person", or a "christian", or an "athiest", or a ANY IMAGE IT PICK FOR ITSELF, as this HIDE SELF CANNOT "PICK WHAT IT WISH TO BE", as it is ONLY WHAT IT IS EACH SECOND, wish BETTER BE CHANGING AT ALL TIMES, OR SELF IS DILUTED???

convinced it is NOW SOMEHTING, SO HIDING WHAT ITSELF IS???

look into environment???

if a man think in his mind, I AM A HUMK, HAS HE NOW LOST HIS TRUE HUNK ABILITY???

AND SMARTER WOMEN WILL TELL HIM, BUT HE BELIEVE HIS OWN MIND MOST, AND ACTUALLY SURROUND HIMSELF WITH ONLY WOMEN THAT AGREE WITH HIS MIND???

if a women "think" in her mind, I AM BETTER THAN A MAN, has she not become as less, BY THINKING SHE IS MORE???

the same as a man that think the same???

if a women think she is "smokin hot", the smokin hot becomeas as diluted, so slooooooooowly, that before long, she look just as hardened and desperate as the bar flie's she once despised???

any different for a man???

NOT ONE ITOTA!!!

tell one it is "good" to share, then it become as consumed with sharing only for a "belief of self as good", so it does not share for the sake of the sight of another's need, BUT MOST FOR ITSELF, TO WILL ITSELF AND "THINK OF ITSELF" AS A GOOD SHARING PERSON???

satan come as an "angel of light" in the mind, making self believe it is correct, while others of course are not correct???

self "emotions" are pure, while others are NOT???

self perception is accurate, and of course, the "other" is confused, even delusional???

THE WILL and inert push and desire and force TO "BE LOVED", INSTEAD OF TO LOVE???

a self defeating misery self create for itself???

the will to LOVE, but if GOOD IS NOT RETURNED UNTO SELF, then self has been abused, SHOWING SELF NEVER REALLY "LOVED", JUST "THOUGHT" and convinced itself IT LOVED, TO GET BACK LOVE???

please, it is not hard to see "what first motive's within the human heart that create "all first evils, that left alone, BECOME AS ROARING LIONS, THAT CAN EVEN KILL ONE THAT HAS BETRAYED SELF", OR THAT IS DEEMED AS LESS VALUE THAN SELF, BECAUSE SELF IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF TRUTH AND VALUE???

wish for a "christian family", and one SEE NOT IT DOES NOT REALLY CARE, EXCEPT FOR WHAT GIVE BACK TO ITSELF, AND MAKE ITSELF AS IMPORTANT???

how is that the conscious mind is blind to it's own inert hidden motive's???

the FIRST DAY AND TIME IT SEE ANOTHER'S FAULT, AND NOT SEE THE SAME WITHIN SELF AT ALL TIMES???

because it see OTHERS evil, and LOOK NOT TO INSPECT SELF AND SEE IF THE SAME EXIST, but only look to see how it does not, so this "evidence it will surely find, as IT HAS INFINITE ACTIONS OF SELF TO LOOK AT FOR EVIDENCE, SO OF COURSE, IT PULL THE FILE ON IT'S LONG LIST OF "GOOD DEEDS" THAT SELF KEEP A TOTAL MENTAL ROLODEX OF???

what made JIM JONES NOT SEE HIS OWN SELF DELUSION???

SEEING AND ACCESSING FROM HIS OWN PERSONAL ROLODEX OF ALL HIS "GOOD" HE DID, AND TAKING ALL THE WORDS OF OTHER'S HE "SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH", THAT ONLY VALIDATED WHAT HE HIMSELF FIRST THOUGHT OF HIMSELF???

then it becomes more clear why it was said, love thy enemey, as THE ENEMY WILL TELL ONESELF LIKE IT IS, AND IF THESE WORDS ARE BELIEVED, THEN SELF IS RESCUED FROM ITSELF, AND IT'S OWN DELUSION OF MIND???

to be saved from what???

the limited SIGHT that create a self defeating energy, that the conscious mind is as drawn to like a magnet, within itself, that keep the eye's looking unto the ground, trying to till the ground of environment to give "itself" what it has not???

it matters not what religion one find that convince itself it is MO GOOD, as the VERY MOTIVE TO SEEK TO PROVE AND GIVE SELF MOST, WILL CREATE DELUSION FROM ANY WORDS HEARD, no matter where they come from???













Instead of just writing a bunch of words try showing what you say from a manuscript that has stood the test of time.

Thier is no other way to Yahweh. thier is 1.

It is his name to be called upon.

Why? Because you declare that he made the Heavens and the Earth and all that is in them and thier is no other.

Thats why thier are 3 stern commandments about this.


Majic words. You want to call what Yahweh has said Majic?

Thats dangerous territory David.

It says Every one who Calls upon the name of Yahweh shall be saved.

Yahweh the father.

But what else does it say thier?

Yahshua's name Yahweh saves is its meaning he always pointed to the father not himself..


Then it says that no one can call upon this saving name and be against us.

They can not do it. They will refuse to do it because of what it entails in it. The Prophecy of Jeremiah on the day of Pentecost.


Broad is the way to destruction and many go that way but narrow is the way to life and few thier be that find it.

You are to search for the truth with a open heart and only Yahweh's word as your test of truth.

I do not know where you get you words at. But they mix truth with lies and the end result can only be a lie for thier is only 1 way and you need to seek it out and try your best to find it..Shalom...Miles


what be harder, to take words from another and "believe" they be good logic, because one was told they are, OR, to have proof for oneself, from wihtin oneself, of what is real, and does not need to see other's as right or wrong to KNOW IT???

find WHAT MILES???

you believe your "truth" because your mind "found" proof to MAKE PROVE WHAT IT 'WANTED AND SOUGHT TO BELIEVE???

your belief "SATISFIES" A NEED OF SELF TO "PROVE" TO SELF IT IS GOOD???

THIS BE THE GREATEST DECEPTION THAT HAS BEFALLEN ANY IN DAYS PAST, in ALL OF HISTORY???

WHAT MADE ANY PUT OTHER'S TO DEATH???

WHAT MADE ANY OTHER TORTURE OR INFLICT PAIN ON ANOTHER???

IT HAD TO FIRST ACCESS ITSELF AS BETTER???

OF HIGHER VALUE???

IT'S OWN NEEDS AS MOST PAROMOUNT, THEN IT IS CONVINCED TO DO MANY THINGS, BUT WHAT IS THE "FIRST BELIEF" THAT MUST BE PRESENT FOR ANY EVIL ACT TO BE COMMITTED???

look into the HUMAN EMOTION, see and feel for yourself, putting yourself in ole hitler's shoes???

WHAT DID HILTER HAVE TO "FIRST" WISH???

TO PROVE HIMSELF AS "RIGHT"???

to prove to himself is was MOST CORRECT???

then, this later turned into many others thing, BUT SEEING THR ROOT MOTIVE, be the only thing that keep anything in itself from falling to the same deception???

the name yaweh taken unto self is a image of god, a curse unto emtotional death, as IT DECLARE A NAME AS VALUE, not seeing nothing's "name" give it value???

yaweh is a title dude, and MEANS NOTHING???

if you think a "name" saves you, then THIS BE THE MOST PROOF YOU ARE NOT YET SAVED FROM YOURSELF, and your minds NEED TO MAKE ONESELF AS MO GOOD???

this is the motive of the curse of self blindness???

did you read any of the words, PAST WHAT SELF ALREADY THINK, OF SELF AS MOST "GODLY"???

WHAT DO YOU NEED SAVED FROM MILES???

answer that question within yourself, and YOU BECOME AS SAVED???

to LAY DOWN this MOTIVE be the very saving the whole text is speaking of???







I am sorry.. David you are lost in your own world. You never show references. you never show continuity. You just Rant and Rave. You have had several people i know of tell you what the heck are you saying.

You have made up your own bible in your head and the i am not sure if you know what it says.

I do not wish to be mean spirited. But take a good look at what you write and its flow and what everyone else writes on here and see is you see any differences. I know you are a good guy. But manny do not have a clue where you are coming from alot of the time. Blessings David...Miles

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