I have no issues approaching a man first. After all, some men find their fear of rejection to be almost crippling. (I think it's best for me to make the choices I have in life instead of letting another choose for me). That would make for an awfully lonely life if there wasn't a woman out there who could initiate contact, wouldn't it?

My signals: I will observe the gentleman without making it blatantly obvious (look for signs that he is not currently involved, etc.), then make a fair amount of eye contact, twirl a lock of hair, smile to show my teeth, etc. When I am somewhat certain he is available and has responded favorably to my flirting, I approach him and extend my hand with a greeting. Of course, this is providing I am seeking a mate.

I find your reference to being 'old fashioned' a bit unusual here. It's primarily known to be a good thing to have old fashioned morals, ethics, values, etc. (as a general rule of thumb). But, what that has to do with greeting a member of the opposite sex baffles me. I just think too many people put SO much emphasis on the initial contact that it leaves little to no room for error. So, if you don't 'have game' you are in a really difficult predictament.

And, I also have a question for you. When you posted the question to the forum, you phrased it for men which means you took the first step at initiating a conversation with not only one man, but several. So, my question is this: Did you still feel as though you were comfortable with your 'old fashioned' values when you did this?

an old man told me that if SHE comes TO you then she is worth keeping

I had my old boss tell me this while I was working at my first dog kennel.

"Dog's are like women at a bar. When they want your attention, they will come over to you."

Either way works for me

Yes. There's nothing wrong with that.

Even in this world of "equality" we are supposed to have, I still think that it's a mans place to approach a woman.

I think if you'd like to talk to the person then you should say hi. Waiting for the other person to make contact is silly.

I don't approach men but if I let a man know if I like him if he does

great post

Thanks, FedguyB!

I think you are right, it justs feel weird to try to approach a guy, its different whe you are flirting but approaching is a diferent story

well I let me tell you I admire your boldness to approach guys, I can flirt but go to them and introduce myself it is a total diferent story. When I posted the question it was to the public in general not to an specific individual to try to get involved with.

I feel that if whoever is interested in getting to know the other person, they should contact them. The guy or even the girl, whoever feels the interest. Out in Public, even if I don't say anything, I make it clear that I am attracted to the woman or interested in her. If she's wearing an engagement ring or wedding band, I move on. It's usually the first thing I try to see if I am interested. But, if she's with a guy and she doesn't have on a ring, and I'm interested, I am definitely still going to let her know it.

In public it can't be easily done with a facial expression, a wink, or even body language. And communication works even better. On the Net, it's different because you can't see one another, so communication is a must if you're interested. Or you can just perve the heck out of em, add them to your favorites, mutual match em, and hope to be lucky.

In public it's fun, and the funniest thing I have had happen without saying a word was just meeting eye contact with a beautiful woman as we were walking past one another entering and exiting Wal-Mart and her eyes never came off me. Her head kinda almost spun all the way around right before she ran into the entrance door as she was leaving the store!

But, I am shy when it comes to certain women. I don't know why, but particular women actually steal my confidence in myself sometimes. I don't even understand that, because most of the time I find it easy to ask out or talk with a woman.

some guys like a little pushy-ness, these days you cant tell if a woman is after money, looks, cars, or something a guy might not have, so if he starts it, he runs the risk of being shut down ofter she finds out he doesnt have what she wants. I know that goes both ways, but, most men are obviouse in thier intensions. women... not so much.

Generally, I prefer a man who is confident enough to break the ice.

I'd say more times than not it's our job to make introductions, but spontaneity allows for some of the other way around.

sweetheart if i lived in texas i would send you an email. your very attractive! Your profile is good too. I have seen women on here that are very attractive and i want to email them but then there profile screams biatch so i dont. i dont know why your not getting more emails, probably because your not in the forums enough? but i think you should get a lot of attention from this thread watch.

Let me give you a little "tough love."

Part of growing up, becoming a REAL MAN, and
getting this area of your life handled is
realizing that not all women are nice people, and
not letting those that aren't nice AFFECT YOU.

You can reach a point in your life where your
attitude should become "I do not give anyone
permission to take my joy, happiness, and good
mood away from me."

When you get to this point, then IT DOESN'T
MATTER if a woman doesn't respond positively to
your approach.

It doesn't matter if she rejects you.

It doesn't matter if she doesn't have a sense
of humor.

None of this matters when you don't give anyone
permission to TAKE YOUR JOY AWAY FROM YOU.

My advice: Learn to walk away. Learn to blow it
off. Learn how to IMMEDIATELY disconnect and
detach from these types of situations, and NOT let
them affect you.