Topic: Abortion
FenemRespice's photo
Wed 01/14/09 05:36 PM
look, like I said in my first post, I'm pro-choice Anti-abortion, but I still accept that by being pro-choice, I'm am for the choice of killing a baby, and that's my beef. Pro-choiceers who don't understand that they are for the choice of killing a baby. or perhaps understand is not the right term, perhaps they don't like thinking about it like that.

no photo
Wed 01/14/09 06:51 PM
I don't see the point in using those particular words, unless you have some selfrightous need to use it. Don't you have issues of your own to focus on.

FenemRespice's photo
Wed 01/14/09 07:31 PM
Sure do, and I'm working on those one day at a time, I just like it when people own up to their beliefs, that includes me. I'm pro Choice so I have to contend with saying it's alright for a mother, if she chooses to, to kill her unborn or partial born child. I have an unreasonable expectancy for others to own up to that same decision.

hellkitten54's photo
Wed 01/14/09 08:00 PM
I am pro-choice. I got pregnant and my CHOICE was to keep my child. I had another choice, but chose not to make it. I don't see how that is being pro-killing. Please enlighten me young man.

FenemRespice's photo
Wed 01/14/09 09:14 PM
You are for the choice of and operation which ends in the death, or near death as some posters have mention, of a child. That's the procedure. I commend you for your choice of have the child, no ifs ands or buts about it. By association and logical conclusion, if you are for the allowing of this choice, you have to accept the end result the the allowing of that choice will cause. Unless of course you disagree, which is fully within your right. But it is just as much within my right to ask why you would take one without the other.

no photo
Wed 01/14/09 11:36 PM
'I have an unreasonable expectancy for others to own up to that same decision.'

Your stubborn insistence that we own up to anything is probably more annoying than your expectation, resonable or otherwise.

no photo
Thu 01/15/09 08:27 AM

You are for the choice of and operation which ends in the death, or near death as some posters have mention, of a child. That's the procedure. I commend you for your choice of have the child, no ifs ands or buts about it. By association and logical conclusion, if you are for the allowing of this choice, you have to accept the end result the the allowing of that choice will cause. Unless of course you disagree, which is fully within your right. But it is just as much within my right to ask why you would take one without the other.
Why stop there. War, Death penalty,Hunger, DNRs....All result in death and preventable!!!!!

FenemRespice's photo
Thu 01/15/09 09:57 AM
So who said I don't see that? Death is an inevitable ends to life, thus mainting the balenence of the univerce. The only unpreventable causes of death are some deseases and old age. And once our country get's past this moral blockade on cloning and genetic engineering, (granted I know we see some genetic engineering as acceptable) aging will be a thing of the past. Eternal youth just boild down to removing the or slowing the cells capability of destroying itself. Yes yes, easyer said than done. The point is, I realy don't want that to happon untill we find a way off this rock, otherwise, it's starvation, not old age, that would kill us.

FenemRespice's photo
Thu 01/15/09 10:02 AM
And you're right, it is beyond my right to expect you to change your perseption of an issue, with heated debade I mean to show a point of perception that may not have been seen before.

no photo
Thu 01/15/09 10:48 AM

And you're right, it is beyond my right to expect you to change your perseption of an issue, with heated debade I mean to show a point of perception that may not have been seen before.


That's just so arrogant, I can't believe you don't see that. You assume women are so ignorant that they would not have thought of all these things first? And you are what? The appointed one, to tell us where we are in error in our perceptions? How long has this issue been around? I assure you women know full well what the issues are.

sexysweeti's photo
Thu 01/15/09 01:28 PM
Edited by sexysweeti on Thu 01/15/09 01:43 PM
Forget it, someone already said it well enough....these people need to deal with their own issues.

Jess642's photo
Thu 01/15/09 01:31 PM
Why debate what is a PERSONAL choice?

adj4u's photo
Thu 01/15/09 02:55 PM

Why debate what is a PERSONAL choice?


according to the declaration of independence it is NOT a personal choice



just a point to make i really do not care but

if the declaration of independance is a legal binding document then abortion is illegal

excerpt from di

all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and t

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when one is created by their parents then they have the unalienable right to life

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i didn't write it but that is what it says


deke's photo
Thu 01/15/09 03:16 PM

So, let me just get this out first, if you haven't read any of my other posts, I'm Methodist, which is a denomination of Protestantism, the other half of Christianity. With that in mind, I'm one of those Christians that's a big fan of acceptance. In fact, there's not much I won't be accepting of. Yes yes, where is this going. I have a question for people that are pro-choice, or pro abortion. Whatever you prefer. Why can't you just admit that's it is pro-abortion, or, how I say it, pro-baby-killing. Let's throw this little curve ball. I'm Pro-abortion. Oh Snap!

I'm willing to admit, I'm pro-babykilling. I think women have the right to kill her baby. That's her decision. Would I try to convince my wife or girlfriend to go through with the birth, you bet I would, but I don't feel I have the right to do that with other women.

This has become a political issue, of course, because it has to do with the government enforcing a law. I'm for smaller government whenever it comes to anything that doesn't have to do National Security. That's another reason for my view, but it bugs me when pro-choicers won't admit that they are for abortion. That goes to my question hidden in the first paragraph. To all of the Pro-choice people, other than 'because it sounds bad', why can't you just admit that you are pro-babykilling. We are for the procedure which kills babies. We're not for limiting, or shutting it down, we are for the free choice of killing her unborn. So come on people, own up to your beliefs.

Oh, and before you pose me with this little hypothetical: "How would you feel if your mom aborted you?" or something of the like, my answer will always be 'I WOULDN'T, I'D BE DEAD.
dude i'm am so proud that a baby killer said it as it is killing babies

i think if a so-called woman wants to abort her own body thats fine but where is the childs choice
thre is no choice all

deke's photo
Thu 01/15/09 03:20 PM
i'd like to add
look at all the pro baby killers get offended
if it bothers you to hear that,there's areason for it
IT'S WRONG

deke's photo
Thu 01/15/09 03:20 PM
i'd like to add
look at all the pro baby killers get offended
if it bothers you to hear that,there's areason for it
IT'S WRONG

FenemRespice's photo
Thu 01/15/09 05:07 PM
That's one of the many points of this thread.

deke's photo
Thu 01/15/09 08:36 PM
this is a really good thread

deke's photo
Thu 01/15/09 08:37 PM

Abortion is very simple: It is the great abonimation of desolation. It desolates a woman's womb of the greatest gift God can give - Life. That desolation is an abomination to God - The author of all life... If we say we can not make laws based on human morality then what need do we have of convicting pedophiles or rapists... Should we tolerate their immorality as well? The basic human right to live must be placed into question and denied for the sake of convenience to those seeking to gratify their sexual desires?
If you don't want to get your hand burnt don't place it into the fire...

well said
take responsibility for your actions

Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/15/09 08:43 PM


Why debate what is a PERSONAL choice?


according to the declaration of independence it is NOT a personal choice



just a point to make i really do not care but

if the declaration of independance is a legal binding document then abortion is illegal

excerpt from di

all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and t

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when one is created by their parents then they have the unalienable right to life

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i didn't write it but that is what it says




Yes it is. The point of when one becomes a human is in consideration here. One is not a human until born. Before that they are a part of another human.