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Topic: Sodom and Gomorrah: Whats the deal?
Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:08 PM
I know, I know, its probably been done. But since its Christmas time and all....Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them {his daughters} as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous".

How do folks feel about this? huh

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:11 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 06:11 PM

I know, I know, its probably been done. But since its Christmas time and all....Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them {his daughters} as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous".

How do folks feel about this? huh
:smile: I don't feel anything about it.:smile: I suppose most people would do the same thing.:smile: Angelic messengers are more important than daughters.:smile:Seems like a just and righteous decision to me.:smile:

no photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:12 PM
the bible was written by man thus u get a messed up human version of whats right at the time if u had daughters they were useless they wanted sons to help on the farm and carry on the name etc

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:12 PM
Is that by biblical standards or human?

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:14 PM

the bible was written by man thus u get a messed up human version of whats right at the time if u had daughters they were useless they wanted sons to help on the farm and carry on the name etc


Oh I dont know about useless there, Im sure they might have brought in some chicken or a sheep. bigsmile

Would that justify it in your eyes?

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:14 PM
:smile: What do you think he should have done?:smile:

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:16 PM

:smile: What do you think he should have done?:smile:


With the angel rapers? Told them they had left. Gotten my girls out of there or died trying.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:19 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 06:20 PM


:smile: What do you think he should have done?:smile:


With the angel rapers? Told them they had left. Gotten my girls out of there or died trying.
:smile: Perhaps that wasn't an option.:smile:

:smile: When a person truly serves G-D then nothing comes before HIM.:smile:Even your children come after HIM.:smile:We have too much pride to understand that.:smile:

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:21 PM
Then explain. We are listening. huh

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:22 PM
:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:23 PM

Then explain. We are listening. huh
:smile: I just did.:smile:

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:25 PM

:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:31 PM


:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?
flowerforyouNo, but giving over Gods angels would have been worse.flowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:37 PM
Women weren't valued at all in the OT so it doesn't surprise me.

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:38 PM


:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?


Sickening, isn't it?

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:38 PM



:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?
flowerforyouNo, but giving over Gods angels would have been worse.flowerforyou


So we honor this god?

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:48 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 06:48 PM




:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?
flowerforyouNo, but giving over Gods angels would have been worse.flowerforyou


So we honor this god?
:smile: Wasnt his fault.:smile: It was a human created situation.:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:49 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 06:51 PM



:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?


Sickening, isn't it?
flowerforyou Apparently God agreed with you laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:50 PM

Women weren't valued at all in the OT so it doesn't surprise me.
flowerforyou Then change it.:smile:Can you change it?:smile:

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:50 PM





:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?
flowerforyouNo, but giving over Gods angels would have been worse.flowerforyou


So we honor this god?
:smile: Wasnt his fault.:smile: It was a human created situation.:smile:


Yet that god still referred to Lot as righteous even in the face of such absolute disregard for his own family.

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