Well according to just about every Christian who has responded to this thread, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the idea behind sacrificing your two daughters to an angry mob to rape and possibly murder. In fact it was very likely they would have been killed. The fact that they were virgins is really neither here nor there when you think about it. That was only relevant as it related directly to their value as a commodity and a way to utilize them as a bargaining chip.

Bear in mind that Lot was referred to as "Just" and "Righteous" by god even after this unspeakable deed.



Oh I guess that would be Lot's wife that the writers of the bible didnt feel it necessary to even give her a name. That Mrs. Lot? We dont know who she was and then god turned her into a pillar of salt.

I wouldn't have gave them my darn daughters either

maybe show them to the stable and the sheep since they didn't seem to care

Thats what Im saying. I just dont feel god should have later on described Lot as "Just" and "Righteous" after he did such a thing. What I dont understand is people insisting that Lot was "just" and "righteous" just because god says so.

That means god was totally prepared to overlook the fact that Lot offered his own children to an angry mob.

That is not flying.

But the Bible also tells me that One righteous act covers many sins.

Well what was his "righteous" act then and what could possibly defray such a wrong?

Lot was a just and righteous man overall I believe. It does not mean he was perfect and never sinned. When you repent of a sin, it is blotted out, clean page, God doesn't even want to hear about it anymore, it's gone. It may weigh on your mind, but that is to serve as a reminder to not repeat your mistakes.

Honestly, I'd have to crack a book and brush up on the story Krimsa, The last couple of years I have been into four books of the bible in depth and have not focused on the others except in relation to the those four.

I've thought myself concerning Lot. what! your daughters, no way. Get the hell away from my door, out of my yard, whatever. Time to let the dog loose and arm yourself, The Angels weren't gonna let anything get out of control anyway.

I dont think it matters all that much. The point is that god was willing to overlook the most gravest of sins, to give up your own children. However, in biblical time, women had very little value. They had far less value than sons. Their greatest worth would be placed on their virginal status. This would have been considered as commodity much more valuable than their humanity, even though god supposedly created both male and female.

A "Righteous Act" or "Good Works" can be as simple as treating someone fairly, A simple smile at an appropriate moment, with a warm hello.

That doesnt make up for what he did however. I think god considered him righteous and just because he offered his daughters in order to protect the angels.

yeah, we talked about this before I think.

I think women were of value then, have been, are now and always will be . At least as a christian in America , man and woman are equal, or should be. As far as God, the two are of one and to be as one.

Now, in the Middle East even today, we know that is not the case. It is different for those and other cultures.

But also remember,Krimsa....

nothing happened to Lot's daughters.



Krimsa.... There is a much more indepth study required here by all of us,

to be able to decipher ALLL the full meaning ,

of the story of Lot...

along with all the other words of the Bible.

There is more to the Word, then can be gleemed from just a surface study here.

We could study the Word FOREVER....

and STILL , not be able to learn all there is to learn about the Word of God.

The bible is that rich and deep in meaning...

and more.

I for one, have barely even scratched the surface...

of all the deep riches and meaning....

contained in that book , called the Bible.



Krimsa.... Learning and Growing in the Word of God....

is a Spiritual Journey of a Lifetime .......

and there is NEVER a dull and boring moment!!!

Well, MorningSong, but Lot didn't know that there would be nothing happening to his daughters, but he offered them all the same. As we say here, it's the intend that makes the crime a crime. The outcome after the intend doesn't really matter anymore.

Invisible....in a nutshell....

Lot was "Messed up folk"....

but God forgave his mess,when he obeyed God...

and THAT is ONLY reason he was MADE righteous...

and NOT because he WAS righteous...

cause
NO ONE is righteous BUT GOD!!


Just like David also in the bible.....

whom God called ,"a man after God's own heart"....

who.....despite his mess, God forgave him too , for his big mess,

when he sincerely and earnestly called upon God.


Just as God will ALSO look beyond ALLL our big messes too...

if we turn our hearts toward him, that is.......

and call upon Him to be our Saviour ,with a sincere heart....

And When we do, we TOO ,are MADE the righteousness of God ...

cause our "messes" are under the blood now....

and we are made whiter than snow.

Invisibe...THAT'S the Kind of Loving God we serve....

a God who LOVES us, despite our messed up lives!!!

And all we have to do is just ask Him into our hearts and mean it..

and God is the one who does the rest.....

HE is the one Who cleans up our messed up lives...

just like God cleaned up Lot's mess ,cause he obeyed God.

There is NONE of us who are without some kind of mess in our lives....

and in need of a Saviour....not one.

But the Good News is....

God is able to clean us all up, and make us the righteousness of God too....

and work a beautiful transforming work in all of us........

who put our trust in God....

and God is the ONE , Who does the beautiful transforming work in all of us...

eventually making us all into the Image of God Himself...

the Very ONE in Whose Image we were all created in ,
in the first place.

Are you sure god didnt just suddenly decide that Lot was just and righteous because he offered his daughters up in order to protect the angels?

Nope.

There's a lot more to it than that...

and btw...
Abraham also was calling on God , on behalf of Lot...
:

Okay so how could god describe him as Just and Righteous in the face of such a horrible act?

The point being that this reflects badly on god and his ability to treat all of his creations on equal footing. Clearly these two females did not possess the same value in god's eyes as his two male angels. God is described as an all powerful, omniscient being. The men of this day viewed women as less valuable than men. Hmmm.

Krimsa....This is why God sent us a Saviour......

So god exercised poor judgment up until we nailed his only begotten son to a pole?