Topic: Sodom and Gomorrah: Whats the deal?
MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:53 PM






:smile: The ancient world was a harsh and unforgiving place. :smile: They did not have the option of "playing nicey nice" like we do.:smile:Survival required sacrifices we cannot imagine making.:smile: Horrible and terrifying choices had to be made.:smile:


So protecting my own children would make me "unrighteous" but giving my two virgin daughters over to a mob to gang rape (and potentially murder,) is hunkey dorey?
flowerforyouNo, but giving over Gods angels would have been worse.flowerforyou


So we honor this god?
:smile: Wasnt his fault.:smile: It was a human created situation.:smile:


Yet that god still referred to Lot as righteous even in the face of such absolute disregard for his own family.
:smile: According to the story,Lots family survived and everyone else was killed.:smile:

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:55 PM
But did Lot know that would happen? huh

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:56 PM


Women weren't valued at all in the OT so it doesn't surprise me.
flowerforyou Then change it.:smile:Can you change it?:smile:


I am unable to change the past.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:58 PM

But did Lot know that would happen? huh
laugh He got the hell outta there didnt he?laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 06:58 PM



Women weren't valued at all in the OT so it doesn't surprise me.
flowerforyou Then change it.:smile:Can you change it?:smile:


I am unable to change the past.
flowerforyou exactlyflowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:02 PM




Women weren't valued at all in the OT so it doesn't surprise me.
flowerforyou Then change it.:smile:Can you change it?:smile:


I am unable to change the past.
flowerforyou exactlyflowerforyou


I'm sorry. I'm really not getting your point. I never thought that I could change the past.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:08 PM





Women weren't valued at all in the OT so it doesn't surprise me.
flowerforyou Then change it.:smile:Can you change it?:smile:


I am unable to change the past.
flowerforyou exactlyflowerforyou


I'm sorry. I'm really not getting your point. I never thought that I could change the past.
:smile: Its a bummer that women werent valued in the Old Testament the way they are now.:smile:(Are women valued now?):smile: But noone can do anything about.flowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:12 PM

:smile: Its a bummer that women werent valued in the Old Testament the way they are now.:smile:(Are women valued now?):smile: But noone can do anything about.flowerforyou


I believe women have more protection under the law but I do not believe they are valued much more now than back then.

no photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:13 PM

Is that by biblical standards or human?




human
Jesus saved the hooker because everyone is worth something





*****es be crazy

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:23 PM


Is that by biblical standards or human?




human
Jesus saved the hooker because everyone is worth something





*****es be crazy


We arent talking about Jesus here, this was God's decision.

no photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:26 PM
ahh but god sent Jesus to set things straight thus making Jesus gods decision making the save hooker gods decisions degrees of separation

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:27 PM


But did Lot know that would happen? huh
laugh He got the hell outta there didnt he?laugh


And that makes him righteous?,

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:28 PM

ahh but god sent Jesus to set things straight thus making Jesus gods decision making the save hooker gods decisions degrees of separation


That would not address this story at all.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:30 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 07:31 PM



But did Lot know that would happen? huh
laugh He got the hell outta there didnt he?laugh


And that makes him righteous?,
laugh That makes him right apparentlylaugh flowerforyou

no photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:31 PM
Edited by cutiecami on Wed 12/24/08 07:32 PM
the point is humans tend to get things wrong such as with the bible wich was recorded by humans so u get their version ie. the king james version when u read it u get king James version so would a just and loving god have a man trow his virgin daughters to a mob no but a man who is confused would

i said Jesus saved the hooker to show that in gods eyes everyone is worth something even the daughters

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:32 PM




But did Lot know that would happen? huh
laugh He got the hell outta there didnt he?laugh


And that makes him righteous?,
laugh That makes him right apparentlylaugh flowerforyou


Explain? If you dont mind. If you say because "god says so" again I will get that gif and end this thread.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:32 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 07:36 PM

the point is humans tend to get things wrong such as with the bible wich was recorded by humans so u get their version ie. the king james version when u read it u get king James version so would a just and loving god have a man trow his virgin daughters to a mob no but a man who is confused would
huh Where does it say that?huh Go read the story. huh It doesnt say god made anyone throw their daughter to a mob.huh

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:34 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 12/24/08 07:38 PM





But did Lot know that would happen? huh
laugh He got the hell outta there didnt he?laugh


And that makes him righteous?,
laugh That makes him right apparentlylaugh flowerforyou


Explain? If you dont mind. If you say because "god says so" again I will get that gif and end this thread.
:smile: His family lived and everyone else was destroyed.:smile: Good decision to get out of there obviouslylaugh And I dont recall saying "god says so" in this thread (or any other)huh

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:40 PM
Mirror he has no way of knowing that would occur. All he knew at the time was "Im givin my virgin daughters over to this mob so that they rape them instead of the angels and leave my ass alone." Explain your definition of righteousness. Thanks.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 12/24/08 07:42 PM

the point is humans tend to get things wrong such as with the bible wich was recorded by humans so u get their version ie. the king james version when u read it u get king James version so would a just and loving god have a man trow his virgin daughters to a mob no but a man who is confused would

i said Jesus saved the hooker to show that in gods eyes everyone is worth something even the daughters


This is OT. You are still talking about Jesus.