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Topic: What happened?
Jill298's photo
Fri 12/05/08 10:55 AM
I have a general religion question here :wink: As far as Christianity goes... It's my understanding that Christ is our Savior and the only to Heaven is thru loving Christ... That being said... What happened to all of the souls of the people that were here and died before Christ came along? I never fully understood that part. Thanks flowerforyou

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Fri 12/05/08 10:58 AM
They either had faith that he would come, or they denied him.

markc48's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:02 AM
That was before the wrote the book:wink:

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Fri 12/05/08 11:04 AM
What an excellent question!!! flowerforyou

Etrain's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:07 AM
They're in hell of courserofl rofl rofl

Jill298's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:07 AM

They either had faith that he would come, or they denied him.
How were they supposed to have faith that he would come? How were people in other other places supposed to even know or have heard about him?

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Fri 12/05/08 11:10 AM
Here are the possiblities

Atheist - nothing happened

Agnostic - don't know

Mediterrenean Mythologies - Either they were allowed to give a extra chance in life after the Bible was written or they were out of luck.

Alien - We used the souls to generate our spaceships to travel to other galaxies. Don't give me ????. I know you don't understand the concept of how we do thislaugh

Buddhism - You see all those worms in the ground. There they are!


as for me - Agnostic - I don't knowlaugh



catwoman96's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:10 AM
some may be in hell..some may be in limbo..some may be in heaven...

im not sure.

Jill298's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:22 AM
Where's Tribo and Spider at today??laugh Those are my "go to people" for religion :wink:

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Fri 12/05/08 11:27 AM
THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN....... UNDER THE OLD SYSTEMMMMMMMMM..............

Jill298's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:58 AM

THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN....... UNDER THE OLD SYSTEMMMMMMMMM..............
laugh laugh laugh

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/05/08 12:58 PM
Smiless wrote:

Buddhism - You see all those worms in the ground. There they are!


laugh laugh laugh

Now there's a religion I can identify with. bigsmile

drinker

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Fri 12/05/08 01:03 PM
Edited by tribo on Fri 12/05/08 01:31 PM
hi BB - everyone who is was or will be saved is saved by faith. so those who had lived prior to jesus lived by faith in what god had said and commanded - those who did not were not saved
[ saved meaning going to heaven or being in gods eternal presence] or what ever else is espoused in C theology.

of course people dont like to here this because it seems unfair, but i'm only telling what is believed. the only thing that changed to any degree after christ was then it became the age of grace [grace meaning gods free gift of salvation to all who beleived in and on christ sacrifice and payment for all mankinds sins forever]

in the OT it was by faith in who god was and what he said as to being saved it was a gift also but not of sacrificial means, both OT and NT require faith but in the OT there was no eternal gift of grace.

when jesus came and died grace abounded, before it was felt by the OT people that it was absolutely necessary to follow the law, law was a teacher in the sense of showing man its impossible to obey the law - even the scribes and pharisees could not obey them perfectly. but those who understood the spirit of the law -[thou shalt love thy god and love thy neighbor as thyself] did fullfill the spirit of the law and by that means were saved. jesus reiterated this by saying the laws of god and the prophets were all contained in those two commandments i mention. but jesus lightened the burden by offering up himself as a sacrifice for everyone that would believe on him as the son of god, savior, and sacrifice for their sins. he did not abolish the law, its just now believers are not condemned by the law. they are seen as being in christ and god can only see christ not us as to our salvation.

bottom line by faith everyone in heaven is saved and also here on earth. through grace.


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Fri 12/05/08 01:19 PM
Goodness! What a complete load of crap!


The semantic and justifying, and the illusion of erudicy is fascinating.... but then again so is lunacy....


No wonder there are so many people , globally depressed.... this whole patriarchal propaganda spread a long way... and caused unknown amounts of inherited guilt.


And some almost appear to be intelligent....


Profoundly saddening.

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Fri 12/05/08 01:23 PM
Since crap is mentioned,

Don't drink pumpkin spice soymilk it tastes like cardboardlaugh

Jess642's photo
Fri 12/05/08 01:24 PM

Since crap is mentioned,

Don't drink pumpkin spice soymilk it tastes like cardboardlaugh



laugh laugh I'll remember that... thankyou.drinker flowerforyou

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Fri 12/05/08 01:25 PM

THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN....... UNDER THE OLD SYSTEMMMMMMMMM..............


That made me laugh.

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Fri 12/05/08 01:28 PM
And I'm sorry but I don't know the answer.

tribo's photo
Fri 12/05/08 01:28 PM

Goodness! What a complete load of crap!


The semantic and justifying, and the illusion of erudicy is fascinating.... but then again so is lunacy....


No wonder there are so many people , globally depressed.... this whole patriarchal propaganda spread a long way... and caused unknown amounts of inherited guilt.


And some almost appear to be intelligent....


Profoundly saddening.


so quintessentially put my lady, the apparent cognizance of any belief's lead to such. but beliefs are a part of humanity and we will never rid ourselves of them - do you have a solution for this problem? if not - are you just spouting off? - :tongue:

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Fri 12/05/08 01:37 PM


Goodness! What a complete load of crap!


The semantic and justifying, and the illusion of erudicy is fascinating.... but then again so is lunacy....


No wonder there are so many people , globally depressed.... this whole patriarchal propaganda spread a long way... and caused unknown amounts of inherited guilt.


And some almost appear to be intelligent....


Profoundly saddening.


so quintessentially put my lady, the apparent cognizance of any belief's lead to such. but beliefs are a part of humanity and we will never rid ourselves of them - do you have a solution for this problem? if not - are you just spouting off? - :tongue:


yes....wake up!!!!


See the emotionally bereft societies we inhabit... see the complete and total focus of the ego, step away from both the patriarchal and the feminist mindsets.... remember that quintessentially we are born perfect, and unfortunately only after exposure to the rot of these cultures and societies, and an apparent imitation in behaviours of these societies, are we accepted.


WAKE UP to what is broken, stand up to what we know is inheritly harmful to all... and move past it into the perfection we once inhabited as babies..


Ask SAYS WHO? HOW COME? WHY?


ask ...question, discover the inherant wisdom again...

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