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Lindyy believe it or not, some gays don't like the parades either. I don't because I think it sets us back. If you want to get people to understand being gay I hardly think one can do that by flaunting sexuality and scaring people to death with it.
At the same time I have a certain admiration for their courage to do what they do. Just as Fredie did in his own way. He didn't let society ruin his dream, but I think he would have been so much happier in his life had he been able to find true love, that was after all what he wanted. I don't think he went about it in the right way, but then who am I. And I think at that time everyone was struggling with sexuality, both gay and straight. By the way I didn't mean flame in the way you thought I mean. It's an expression, not a insult. I think if we humans never learned to be so uptight about sexuality and our bodies in the first place we wouldn't be so absolutely obsessed with it now. But what I see as human societal evolution and growing pains today, other's see as a threat to world order. That's unfortunate... |
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. are you saying your wants are more important than the rights of another per the constitution democracy ie the WANTS of the majority TRAMPLING the RIGHTS of the minority and the u s is not a democracy for that very reason I believe in family and you can go on and on about the constitution and rights all day. Any way... if gays can't marry does that really mean they have so badly? It’s not like gay's have to live double lives any more or face the same types of discrimination or abuse they did 50 years ago. In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. Gays are open about their sexuality and relationships hold jobs in our community and are accepted by many people. Marriage was not started by the Gay community and that fact should end this argument! It’s not about rights it’s about getting their way and seeing how far they can go. In a way its about gaining Power. |
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I was raised to believe that marriage was an act of commitment to someone that you loved and wished to spend your life with.
I was raised to believe that marriage is a union of souls, yet more and more I find that marriage is a union of genitalia. I am saddened to see that it has come to this. I wish to find that special someone to share my life with and I can tell you now that it won't be with a woman. Sorry ladies but youre woman parts do nothing for me. Now if you want to talk movies or shopping i'm all yours lol |
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. are you saying your wants are more important than the rights of another per the constitution democracy ie the WANTS of the majority TRAMPLING the RIGHTS of the minority and the u s is not a democracy for that very reason I believe in family and you can go on and on about the constitution and rights all day. Any way... if gays can't marry does that really mean they have so badly? It’s not like gay's have to live double lives any more or face the same types of discrimination or abuse they did 50 years ago. In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. Gays are open about their sexuality and relationships hold jobs in our community and are accepted by many people. Marriage was not started by the Gay community and that fact should end this argument! It’s not about rights it’s about getting their way and seeing how far they can go. In a way its about gaining Power. yeah gaining power...you know kinda like the women's rights movement... |
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. Ah youth! 
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. Ah youth!
we need a smiley for talking to a brick wall lol |
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In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people.
There it is, that familiar arrogance of some straight folks. When you have gotten a real education let us know, we do not have the same rights or we would not be having this discussion but then I would not expect you to understand that with the lack of knowledge you show here. |
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Humm I bet sometimes Winx is a minx hehe Gio...you are full of it haha Funny part is you know it too and I think you enjoy it. Thomas was supporting his argument with flawed science. He was called on it. Not because of his position but because he chose poor support. Thomas refers to "respectful" websites in his post. What are they please? What qualifies? This thread is about gay marriage not HIV. Maybe we can start a thread on heterosexual marriage and list all the reasons it shouldn't be allowed. Let's see, divorce, domestic violence, marital rape, infidelity, child abuse...so many to pick from. If heterosexual marriage wasn't already legal there are plenty of good reasons to keep it illegal. Lynann, There is a poem on my profile that someone on here wrote for me. It talks about Winx being a minx. lol Good idea about talking about heterosexual marriages. |
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Ok...I'm not gay myself, nor curious. I don't like infringement on peoples' right to be free, though. Personally, I respect a person's right to choose. I am a faith based person, though, and I understand what the bible says. My thing is that if the man upstairs says this is wrong, that will be between he and the individual when that meeting arrives. And I believe that meeting does not involve myself, or anyone else. I agree. |
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Edited by
Foliel
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Fri 12/05/08 08:18 PM
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yay aboloish all marriage
 
no more marriage = no more issues with gay marriage |
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GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE.....NOT ADAM AND STEVE! and people ARE NOT born gay....how idiotic! Show your scientific evidence of this. Do you really think that most people WANT to be gay? Do you know how hard a lot of gay people have just living day to day without being ridiculed or judged? Do you think people LIKE feeling like that? My cousin is gay and has been that way his WHOLE life. He didn't realize it of course, but my mother said she always knew. You need to wake up and smell the coffee! There have been studies. Some of them were twin studies. There have also been CAT-scans of the brain. Yes I know. I don't really need it, cause I already know people are born gay. 
I know you know. I just had to find a place to say it to remind others.
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we need a smiley for talking to a brick wall lol [/quote I see you found the same brick wall. Grin! If it were not for the millions of people that bothered to get educated on the subject I might feel depressed, for a minute at least. grin! |
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. are you saying your wants are more important than the rights of another per the constitution democracy ie the WANTS of the majority TRAMPLING the RIGHTS of the minority and the u s is not a democracy for that very reason I believe in family and you can go on and on about the constitution and rights all day. Any way... if gays can't marry does that really mean they have so badly? It’s not like gay's have to live double lives any more or face the same types of discrimination or abuse they did 50 years ago. In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. Gays are open about their sexuality and relationships hold jobs in our community and are accepted by many people. Marriage was not started by the Gay community and that fact should end this argument! It’s not about rights it’s about getting their way and seeing how far they can go. In a way its about gaining Power. yeah gaining power...you know kinda like the women's rights movement... Exactly... I believe the faminst movement hurt the family structure completely... Not saying that man is all powerful and the women are lower then men. I love and respect the women in my life as did my father and my grandfathers. In my family the Father was the head of the household but it was never grandpas house its was GRANDMAS. The man was the provider but is the woman was who kept things together. Women what these types traditional values back because it is the way things are supposed to be. |
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There have been studies. Some of them were twin studies. There have also been CAT-scans of the brain. Twin studies, is that a study of twins? I am giggling right now, thinking of having my brain scanned to find out why I have chosen my path in life. That would be one messed up scan.. lmao Speaking of twins, I have a twin brother who WAS gay, but couldn't hack how people treated him, so he married a woman that didn't require sexual contact. He never told her he was gay. I always thought that was unfair to his wife, but not my place to inform her, that was way back in the 70's. Who knows how his life would have turned out had he been able to be who he was in this life. Ah, life is so strange.... When I found out that he too was celibate, I though wow, maybe I was actually gay myself and never knew it. I assumed that I chose it because the alternative... living with a man... was so unappealing on so many levels that choosing women was just a logical choice. I never felt the need to be shrunk to find out why because being gay was the best thing that ever happened to me since and now. Now before you guys assume I hate men, I DO NOT HATE MEN, O actually get allong with most men, and women. I JUST THINK YOUR TOO MUCH WORK.. LOL. The twin studies were about twins adopted at birth by different families. They found twins that were both gay and raised in different environments. Nature vs. Nurture. I think what your brother did was pretty common back in the 50's, 60's and 70's. My Uncle (by marriage) married my Aunt in the 60's and later came out of the closet. |
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In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. There it is, that familiar arrogance of some straight folks. When you have gotten a real education let us know, we do not have the same rights or we would not be having this discussion but then I would not expect you to understand that with the lack of knowledge you show here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand, the tax laws and property laws and many other laws work different for those who are labeled as "single" I know this, because I am a "single". Or at least many state laws are also label gays as "single", since they aren't married, because of the laws about what counts as marriage. Not sure if I made any sense here..
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that might work in a "traditional" household but my mom was a single mother and there was no man of the house so that didn't hold well in her home.
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Edited by
Winx
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Fri 12/05/08 08:27 PM
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. How would gay marriages affect other families? I don't understand that. |
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In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. There it is, that familiar arrogance of some straight folks. When you have gotten a real education let us know, we do not have the same rights or we would not be having this discussion but then I would not expect you to understand that with the lack of knowledge you show here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand, the tax laws and property laws and many other laws work different for those who are labeled as "single" I know this, because I am a "single". Or at least many state laws are also label gays as "single", since they aren't married, because of the laws about what counts as marriage. Not sure if I made any sense here..
yes I get what you mean, it is true that gay men are labeled as single. |
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I do not believe gay marriage should be legal... I just believe in the traditional values where marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage should be between a man and a woman that is the way I was raised and that is the way things should be. Life was better when family’s were more tightly fit and gay marriages only make things worse. Let’s face it, who was responsible for starting the tradition of marriage?... It wasn’t the gay community. are you saying your wants are more important than the rights of another per the constitution democracy ie the WANTS of the majority TRAMPLING the RIGHTS of the minority and the u s is not a democracy for that very reason I believe in family and you can go on and on about the constitution and rights all day. Any way... if gays can't marry does that really mean they have so badly? It’s not like gay's have to live double lives any more or face the same types of discrimination or abuse they did 50 years ago. In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. Gays are open about their sexuality and relationships hold jobs in our community and are accepted by many people. Marriage was not started by the Gay community and that fact should end this argument! It’s not about rights it’s about getting their way and seeing how far they can go. In a way its about gaining Power. It would help them be on their partner's health insurance. It would help them to be able to make decisions at the hospital when their loved one is ill. There is more too. |
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In today’s society gays have all the rights of any other group of people. There it is, that familiar arrogance of some straight folks. When you have gotten a real education let us know, we do not have the same rights or we would not be having this discussion but then I would not expect you to understand that with the lack of knowledge you show here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand, the tax laws and property laws and many other laws work different for those who are labeled as "single" I know this, because I am a "single". Or at least many state laws are also label gays as "single", since they aren't married, because of the laws about what counts as marriage. Not sure if I made any sense here..
yes I get what you mean, it is true that gay men are labeled as single. So if 2 gays living in a house they bought together and want to sell it or they brake up, it's a whole other ballgame, than a straight couple brake up and they take it to the court. |
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