(about the "In God we trust" on the money)
To be honest, I think some people in the US mind it, I think the Church and the State are supposed to be separate in the USA too, and this goes against it, doesn't it?
(Not to mention that "In God we trust" was only added during the Cold War as a way to flip the bird at "those goddamn godless Commies", eh?)


On topic, I'm an atheist and I celebrate Christmas. Why give up on an opportunity to have a festive behaviour?

Semantics, at best.

I figure they can put the name of any fictional character they want on it -- Superman, Popeye, Tarzan, Mickey Mouse -- makes no difference to me, as long as it spends OK. I have no more trust in the (real) government behind the money than I have in the fictional character whose name appears on it.

as an atheist i believe money is god maybe im a moneyist..hmmmmmmm

I believe that's improaching on their freedom of religion or lack of. It does work both ways!!!!

Perhaps there is no way that (I) can prove His existence, but there is also no way that (you) cannot prove it, either. Just because one cannot physically SEE something does not mean it isn't there.

FREEDOM OF RELIGON its a right!!

What other money is there for them to spend?
Most shops don't take foreign currencies, or do they?

Well, now, that isn't really my problem, is it?



No argument here. It IS a right. However it does NOT give anyone the "right" to piss on somebody else's religion just because they don't agree with it.

No one has the "right" to NOT be "offended".

One way is to see its effects -- you can't "see" wind, per se, but you can see leaves blowing around; and wind direction and velocity can be measured by the appropriate instruments.

Inasmuch as I have yet to see a single shred of evidence that God (or any other supernatural being, entity, or power), being "invisible," has any sort of perceivable or measurable effect on anything whatsoever, I am disinclined to believe in his existence. I could be wrong; I'll be the first to admit that. But I see no more reason to believe in God than to believe in the existence of millions of invisible and somehow intangible 1000-foot statues of pelicans placed in inconspicuous areas throughout North Dakota.

I am much more concerned with freedom FROM religion....

They already have several... New Years, Fat Tuesday... kinda, and for American Atheists Independence Day, and Thanksgiving.

However Halloween isn't godless, its the day before all saints day, aka all Hollow's eve. The day when the barrier between the spiritual world and the physical is the weakest, and the spirits manifest themselves in physical form and cause chaos and destruction. People where masks to disguise themselves and ghouls to confuse the demons and avoid harm.

I think you made you miserable.
Nobodys takeing your right to celebrate what ever you want in your home with your family.
Or show your religious whatevers. But you don't get to push your religion on every kid in a school.

How about December 26? I think that it would be perfect. Try celebrating it at a mall.

What has a big guy in a red suit driving a sleigh pulled by a herd of magical flying reindeer got to do with the birth of the baby Jesus? The same could be said about chopping down a fir tree, bringing it to your house and decorating it. One could equally call Christians hypocritical for celebrating Christmas if they celebrate with Santa and trees.

we have tons of godless holidays. most are patriotic. some are just local.

i say if you are atheist it shouldn't bother you to not have a christmas. i mean that is the choice you made right?

can't be PC about everything ya know?

I think I have the right to question someones religon or beleifs if it brought into a political forum. In a civil manner of course.

Tradition credits Saint Boniface with the invention of the Christmas tree. The Oak of Thor at Geismar was chopped down by Boniface in a stage-managed confrontation with the old gods and local heathen tribes. A fir tree growing in the roots of the Oak was claimed by Boniface as a new symbol. "This humble tree's wood is used to build your homes: let Christ be at the centre of your households. Its leaves remain evergreen in the darkest days: let Christ be your constant light. Its boughs reach out to embrace and its top points to heaven: let Christ be your Comfort and Guide." An angel or star is often placed at the top of the tree, representing the host of angels or the Star of Bethlehem from the Nativity story.

You all have my personal blessing to celebrate (or not) Christmas in any manner of your choosing

And I will too

Perhaps, but you still don't have the right to not be offended. That is equal opportunity for all.