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Topic: The "Church" and Abortion!!!!!!!!
Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 11/21/08 10:53 AM
"A church can't make political donations without losing their tax exempt status."...I beleive you hit the nail on the head! What gives a "Church" the right to donate to a "State" policy on gay marriage? I think all Churchs, non-profits, and Bussiness shouldnt be able to. Do they Yes! Does it make it right NO! Just think of the power that would give "Your Vote". They can't donate to a state policy, but they have every right to lobby / speak against (including funding advertisements) for (or against) an issue important to them. You can't take away their freedom of speech just because you disagree with their message.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 11/21/08 10:57 AM Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/21/08 10:58 AM
"A church can't make political donations without losing their tax exempt status."...I beleive you hit the nail on the head! What gives a "Church" the right to donate to a "State" policy on gay marriage? I think all Churchs, non-profits, and Bussiness shouldnt be able to. Do they Yes! Does it make it right NO! Just think of the power that would give "Your Vote". They can't donate to a state policy, but they have every right to lobby / speak against (including funding advertisements) for (or against) an issue important to them. You can't take away their freedom of speech just because you disagree with their message. You cannt take away Islams right to free speech just because its not the same kind of religion as Catholic. What about the Atheist?

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 11/21/08 11:07 AM


Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 11/21/08 11:18 AM Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/21/08 11:21 AM
Im sure Akma-Im a terroist-ominajad is watching this forum! Sry for the spelling

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 11/21/08 11:21 AM
"A church can't make political donations without losing their tax exempt status."...I beleive you hit the nail on the head! What gives a "Church" the right to donate to a "State" policy on gay marriage? I think all Churchs, non-profits, and Bussiness shouldnt be able to. Do they Yes! Does it make it right NO! Just think of the power that would give "Your Vote". They can't donate to a state policy, but they have every right to lobby / speak against (including funding advertisements) for (or against) an issue important to them. You can't take away their freedom of speech just because you disagree with their message. Thats discrimination

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 11/21/08 12:08 PM Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/21/08 12:10 PM
Ive GTG but want to say this. When I started this thread people were "aprehensible" to say the least. People took seats to see the "fireworks". People question whether or not it "broke" the rules. I have seen a good discussion without it!!! Thanks for keeping it civil!

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 11/21/08 12:32 PM
You cannt take away Islams right to free speech just because its not the same kind of religion as Catholic. What about the Atheist? I've already addressed this... This isn't hard to understand: If an organization, group or individual stays within the law, then I support their use of freedom of speech. But I do have to correct you on one thing: "You cannt take away Islams right to free speech just because its not the same kind of religion as Catholic" No. I was clarifying for you the organizational difference between Islam and Catholicism, in that one is a group of independent Mosques while the other has a centralized hierarchy. Islam cannot act, because it is just a belief system. Catholicism can act as it is a belief system and a church. Your freedom of speech is guaranteed by the Constitution. So no matter your region or lack thereof, you have the right to free speech.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 11/21/08 04:33 PM Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/21/08 04:40 PM
Spider, I don't want to debate you church and state, separation of church and state, or the Constitution. This thread I was opening up the public's perception of it pertaining to abortion. I have seen both sides debated and welcome it. I learn from that and get to give my perspective. Thanks for sharing the knowledge I have learned things about the Catholic Church and religion of Islam I didn't know. The Constitution is flawless. It even allows for the failing of the government. "Failing? A widely used word these days. You and I probably agree on a whole lot of issues. I have my dads conservatism with my moms democratic side(I did not say liberal, looney, libatard or ECT!)..I have been a registered Independent since legal age. I believe in family and laws pertaining to be very personal. I believe in the local laws. Kids and school, Dam right they're mine! Don't mess with them! If you have a problem with the schools, get involved locally. Your kids are not being taught anything that you cant be made aware of or to refuse it if you want. One reason I take State and local law very personal. Now back on topic what was it? About the public perception of public debate about abortion when religion is brought into it.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 11/21/08 04:54 PM Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/21/08 05:05 PM
I did stay at the Holiday Inn Express Im so proud my thread might hit a 1000 hits and look at the way it started and no one in Mingle Jail

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 11/21/08 08:29 PM
adj is that waving goodbye your thru meaning me

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 11/21/08 08:31 PM
adj is that waving goodbye your thru meaning me tempt you have yet to see me mean

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 11/22/08 10:17 AM Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/22/08 10:17 AM
I brought the death penalty back from its grave it only has 930 hits. This one deserves 1000 just because of the way it started! "No one LOCKED UP" ..... bump

JACKSTRAW666 Joined Fri 09/14/07 Posts: 22	Sun 11/23/08 08:54 AM
This popcorn is delicious! Could you pass the salt?