Sticks tongue out and does raspberries.

BTW....not directing this at anyone in this thread...just in general.

I wish for alot of things to placed back into Goverment and daily values. But I have to make the scarifce of meeting in the middle, if I truly want this country back on track again.

Which one of the many religions do you choose to use thier god and have place back into the goverment. Holy wars are raging again just as they did in history.

Alot of people don't practice what they preach.

I didn't know you had to have million dollar churches to WORSHIP him.

Which religions beliefs do you instill and from which reliogion.

I respect people that do choose to WORSHIP god/? that is thier right as it is mine to what brand of beer I drink.


This is one subject I will only post once on.

I'd like to build the world a home
and furnish it with love
grow apple trees and honey bees
and snow white turtle doves

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony
I'd like to hold it in my arms
and keep it company

I'd like to see the world for once
all standing hand in hand
and hear them echo through the hills
for peace throuout the land

thats the song I hear
Let the world sing today
a song of peace
that echoes on
and never goes away

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony

I'd like to build the world a home
and funish it with love
grow apple trees and honey bees
and snow white turtle doves

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony
I'd like to hold it in my arms
and keep it company

I can hope can't I?

Hmmm.
Get the religion out of my thread. Religiosity and politics only mix in the moralistic uhhhh hmmm I mean republican party.

yes you are allowed to hope and dream, plus allowed to act upon them.



Now I want a Coke

grrrrr and that lil lady is where it started going down hill.....so live with it people that's what I say. You made your beds so lie in them now.....

I stated the "Christian" God in my post, which is who Feral was referring to, and who alot of people refer to when they do say the word "God". But let me explain something about "Seperation of Church and State". No where does it state that you have to leave your beliefs or your morals out of a decision that you make....because to do so would be just about impossible to do. If you believe that abortion is wrong, you vote against it. Simple as that. Majority of people who feel abortion is wrong have a moral objection to it. That is how it is, and how it will be. And yes, it will be based upon a religious belief. I just don't get why people who don't understand that want those who have this belief to suspend it in favor of "Seperation of Church and State". Cause, they are taking what that means out of context.

Even in our pledge we say...."One Nation...Under God". Alot of our leaders will lead based on their beliefs. It is just how things are.

Let me also say that I do not, in anyway, want to tell a liberal who doesn't see things my way that they are wrong for believing what they believe. I came off to harsh in my rant, so I apologize for that. But, my emphasis is that you need to allow people to vote who they feel lead to vote. Okay...I am done.

I am done Lilth with that subject.



to a better world

Here is the thing.... my decisions are based upon my NOT placing my values and morals onto others.

Not so with those who allow religion to have ANY part in their politics.

It's just a fact.

I don't gamble. I LOATHE gambling. It is a dealbreaker in my dating criteria. But yesterday when I voted, I voted for a casino in Ohio. Why? Because it will create jobs.

I do not, NOT, hold others to the same standards to which I hold myself. They are not me.

I am voting for more porn in the state of Florida.

I hold this very dear and true to my heart!!!!


Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Believing in God, well, that has nothing to do with politics.

Really. It doesn't.

I personally don't know anybody that is not a Christian. And I know a whole lot of Democrats. See....Christian Democrats.


Edit: Oops. Forgot that my Dad is agnostic and he's an Independent.

Your not getting it....

The Next New President of the United States of America
The Democrat Party win in the 2008 election. The Democrats will blame Bush for economic failures, and the independent voters, who always vote their pocketbooks, will swing to the left to give them the victory. This victory should strike terror in the hearts of all, because Satan will be in full control of the country and our freedoms. The Democrats will be able to implement any agenda they wish for the first time in recent history. The left-wing majority in the Supreme Court will give them a clean sweep completely unopposed.

The liberals will glow with vengeance and blood will drip from their teeth as they anticipate the many evil changes they can enforce without opposition. Their frenzy will be as a herd of white sharks stirred by the scent of fresh blood, ripping apart everything of virtue. The small percentage of moderate Democrats will be swept along with the majority of the left-wing radicals because the moderates will be afraid to resist the surging tide of power. The new laws to be passed by the Democrats will shock the moderate independent voters who will groan with regret that they helped put them in office.

Changes in the United States Department of Defense and National Guard

The United States Department of Defense will be transformed under the ever increasing use of the term "homeland security." The antiballistic missile program will be severely scaled back to an ineffective shell in order to shift money to the new homeland security programs. Military personnel will be trained to suppress domestic uprisings. The current law restricting the use of US military personnel against the citizens will be repealed. Those in the military who hold the position that they will never "fire" upon civilians will be weeded out of the services.

The Constitution of the United States will be easily circumvented by passing and implementation of the Model Emergency Health Powers Act (MEHPA) which will turn state governors into dictators. The Emergency Health Act is passing in many states at this writing. State National Guard units will be increased in size and trained to handle "civil unrest" in preparation to enact dictates given by the governors under the new act. "Foundations are in place for martial law in the US.

Changes in the Health, Education and Welfare Laws

Many major laws will be imposed to drastically restrict the freedoms we have in deciding one's own health care matters. The false reasoning behind these changes will be the continuing surge in obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease. The excuse will be that giving up of individual freedoms is for "the greater good." The National Health Care System (NHCS) bill will be passed using the false reasoning that the sudden surge in health care insurance and prescription drug costs cannot be tolerated. The insurance and pharmaceutical companies will be blamed for the surge in costs and accused of corruption and greed.

Forced immunization will be imposed on the entire population by making false claims of high risks for smallpox, hepatitis and other diseases. This forced immunization system will be combined with a mandatory identification system under the pretense that a positive record must be kept for each individual's immunization.

The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) of 1996, also known as the Kennedy-Kassebaum bill, further reinforced the government-operated electronic surveillance and tracking mechanism for monitoring every American's medical records, using vaccination as the vehicle.

Sex education is schools will include an emphasis on oral sex by teenagers under the false claim that this sex method will reduce pregnancies and prevent AIDS.

Abortion will move from the present small clinics into the major hospitals and will be completely funded by the new NHCS. The aborted baby body parts will be sold to the highest bidder to provide funding for the abortion cost to the system.

Changes Which Will Violate the Second Amendment of the Constitution

Free Speech will be seriously disrupted by new laws which will classify speech against the radical left-wing policy directives at a "hate crime." Books, radio, television, Internet and speech in public places, such as a church service, will be prohibited from taking positions against homosexuality, abortion, witchcraft, pagan religions, unwed unions, etc. Even so, attacks against Christians will largely be ignored or dealt with in a token manner so as to look like equal enforcement of the law. Lewd TV shows, pornography and Internet smut will continue to increase under the false reasoning that it must be allowed because of the free speech clause.

The right to keep and bear arms will be largely suppressed by classifying many types of guns illegal and placing harsh registration and high fees on the ownership of all other guns. This registration will be use to identify those individuals who may resist further restrictions by the new government.

The first two things every tyrannical government does are to restrict free speech and ownership of firearms by the citizens. Hitler, Stalin and all other dictators have always done the same. The new United States government will not technically be a dictatorship but will rule exactly like one due to the lack of opposition.

Civil Disobedience and the Patriot Movement

Unlike the "Christian" community which has accepted legalized abortion, homosexuality and adultery with barely a whimper, the Patriot movement will not accept the restrictions on gun ownership. The destruction of David Koresh's Branch Davidian group at Waco, Texas (1993) led to Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building (1995). Both were mere tremors in the civil unrest earthquake which will erupt. This uprising will result in further decreases in freedoms and rights which Americans thought were forever secure. Neighbor will turn against neighbor and brother against brother as the citizens are encouraged to "turn in" violators of the new laws. The Patriots will be classified as domestic terrorists and will be harshly persecuted at every turn.

The Patriots will not submit to the new laws to surrender their firearms. Neither will they obey any law to register their firearms because they realize that registration will only be a government ploy to locate the firearms for later confiscation. Leadership of the Patriots will come from former Green Beret Colonel Bo Gritz, a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Bo wrote the book, CALLED TO SERVE after being acquitted of federal charges when President George Bush ordered US Attorney William Maddox in 1989 to "Get Bo Gritz!" The book and video, A NATION BETRAYED, are available through CFA. Bo has trained Afghan Freedom Fighters (1986); been an Advisor in Saudi Arabia, and conducted special operations in Africa. Bo intervened to end the federal sieges at Ruby Ridge, Idaho (Randy Weaver) in 1992 and the Montana Freemen. He organized Task Force Cross to aid Eric Rudolph, suspect in abortion clinic bombings, in 1998. He has been invited to testify before Congress on five occasions and has been featured in numerous books, articles, and film documentaries on special operations forces.

Harsh laws restricting gun ownership were passed in recent years in the United Kingdom and Australia. These laws have been followed by a sharp increase in crime using firearms as the criminal element realizes the populace is largely unarmed.

Rapture of the True Church or Civil War in America?

Will the United States Department of Defense fire upon the citizens or will they refuse? Refusal of the military to attack the Patriots would place the military against the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government in a collapse of the Constitution. The military in the USSR refused to fire upon their patriots and the left-wing Communists were removed from power.

What does all this mean? Will a confrontation over individual freedoms turn the United States back to its Constitutional roots, or will the left-wing government intrusions into our lives continue? Will the true Church (those individual who have the indwelling Holy Spirit and are referred to in the Bible as the Body of Christ) be removed (raptured) from the earth in an instant as prophesied to set the stage for the Tribulation period?



YOU CHOOSE






Asta la vista thread.



To think government and God have nothing to do with each other...please think again.

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony
I'd like to hold it in my arms
and keep it company.

I remember that.

Me, too.

Oops.

I loved that Coke commercial.

I do believe this is what Lexy refers to as venemous screed. I am a liberal democrat.




Ummmm, how about the liberals who are against immunization? You are aware there are gazillions of them.




Ummmm. That is redonkulous. I went to a liberal high school and all parts of sexuality and sex were discussed.


That will not happen. It is not good business, under any government system.





To think otherwise is a very dangerous and judgmental place to be.