i'm looking at the first verse in the book and it does not state that god made evrything from nothing - i am just wondering if it states anywhere within the book that this is so??

thnx in advance.

You don't know how to read or your just looking to fight?????

God even created the wicked for the day of judgement.

But I'm not one to speak I am full of sin myself.

nope no fighting i thought maybe it said the same somewhere without using the word nothing in strongs i see no verse for nothing being used to describe gods creation - so i thought i would put the question out there for those who may no of verse or verses that say the same thing but don't use the word - nothing - although i dont know what word that would be?

although you maybe reight maybe if i state that god does not say he made everything from nothing maybe everyone would run to defend him. i'll wait and see Neuro, maybe you got something there.

If God didn't make everything from nothing, then how did it become?

good question, do you have any ideas?

You can see the truth in the word by watching those who are threatend by it. Not hard to see that if the word was not real there would be no need for ppl to come against it.

Goodnight all.

I fed all my sin to my cat. Now I have a sinful fat cat.

I'm reading a book by Alan Guth on the scientific explanation of the Big Bang. It just blows me away how much we can actually know about the creation of the universe that happened over 14 billion years ago. Alan's quite convincing that the knowlege we have is sound and verifiably correct.

It has always amazed me how anything at all can possibly exist. It's utterly impossible for my poor little human brain to even begin to comprehend such a thing. Bringing in the idea of a God doesn't change the problem one iota because God is included in the problem. To not include God in the problem is to refuse to even consider the problem.

After all if magicians exist then where did they come from?

It doesn't solve a thing to claim that a magician did it. All that does is assume that a magician can exist from nowhere.

If God did make everything then where did God come from?

That doesn't answer anything when considering the true nature of reality.

All that does is pass the buck.

If you want to claim that God is 'real' then you have to include God in the question of where 'reality' came from.

Otherwise, you're just suggesting that God isn't 'real'.

I've seen a little bit of his thoughts on science channel james yes he seems to make a good case.

and yes the idea of anything being created and or looking at what is - is mind boggling to say the least, it's beyond me also.

i just wanted to know if it did state anywhere in the book that god made everything from nothing, which of course JB , say nothing cant exist, but i could not find it so i was wondering if maybe it had been stated in a diff way but meant the same thing. just curious.

there are no magicians.

only delusionals using sleight of hand and cunning artifices to deceive and distract.

They are called clowns and comedians.

they are entertainers and court jesters of old.

they were the original "fools".

that was their moniker so long ago.

They made people laugh.

they were ridiculously amusing.

still are, delusionals, that is.

If God exists it's the ultimate magician Wouldee.

To claim that there is no magician is to claim Atheism.

Well the thing of it is, is that they aren't exactly saying what 'banged'. They're just decribing how the explosion unfolded.

It's just conclusions based on observations of how the universe actually works.

The universe itself is the only 'True Bible'. It's the only thing that we can be absolutely certain wasn't written by men.

I will never be ceased by the very nature of Sol.

I watch her majesty everyday and stand in awe of her beauty and warmth.

I can certainly indentify with the sun worshipers. They had good reason to view Sol as God.

Even today when we understand what she is made of and precisely how she works, it's still an utterly awesome site to behold.

In fact, like many scientists have said, "Understanding how nature works only makes it that much more awesome".

I have really come to appreciate God from studying the real Bible - the universe itself.

Is there any book reader on here that i respect that can answer my question plese?

I agree james - it's a magnificent universe from the largest to the smallest things.The hubble with it's different color lenses anad all that take photos showing the eagle nebula and the eye of god and all the others is just breathtaking to say the least.

To the best of my knowledge Tribo, there is no where in the King James Bible that states that God created anything from nothing. It just says that he moved on the face of the deep and created things. Obviously if things were 'deep' that implies Newtonian space already existed. I guess they didn't know about General Relativity back then.

It does say that God created Adam from the dust of the earth. Which implies that he needs some material to work with.

It also says that he created Eve from a rib from Adam, again implying that he needs something to start with before he can create.

So just based on those inferences it does seem like he likes to work with various different mediums and isn't one who likes to start from scratch much.

The Great Flood also implies that he'd rather muddle up the clay and rework it rather than start over from scratch with a whole new creation.

Just my thoughts on how one might interpret the mythology.

I highlighted your own contradiction.

Men give you the understanding you seek of the creation.

all you can do is behold the creation and worship it as a god.

You seek that. You demand that.

you worship self, even when self is not the whole of the cosmos because you worship the created thing and not the creator.

You have no comprehension of the creator.

and even less, of creation due to that lapse you choose.

Men gave you your imagery.

You depend on men for it.

You cannot do otherwise for yourself.

You choose as you do to avoid God.

simple.

How can anyone truly believe that everything came from nothing

If you think so, you are ignorant of science.

As far as we know, energy/matter is eternal.
It may be that space is infinite.
It may be that energy is eternal.
But does that imply the possibility of a god that is also eternal? I think not.

It is is a far cry from matter and energy to a sentient, omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, male-gender, nonphysical, non-aging, non-ingesting being who is interested in the personal lives of 6 billion human beings on a small planet orbiting one star out of billions of trillions of other stars in the vast emptiness of space, who delights in the smell of burning goat flesh, who specified that entering the holy place without wearing bells can result in death (EX 28:34-35), and who killed 50,000 people for merely looking at the box that contained the tablets of the 10 commandments.

I am sorry I missed the ligit question..........kshing