JB..I am not Rapunzel.

Iamgeorgiagirl wrote and I quote....

" ...God gets angry at those that hurt others but so does most other people too. It is odd to me that you think this way. Do you think no one deserves any punishment? They should just be allowed to kill others, rape, steal, etc.? I am glad true vengeance belongs to God and not humans. What human is worthy of such a thing? We have trouble picking out a president...".


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In reply to Iamgeorgiagirl's post above....(looks like my quoter button is not working today) ......


The truth is ,God is So LOVING, that God will even forgive the most vicious brutal criminal in the end, if that man calls upon God and asks for forgiveness , and asks God into his heart.
THAT is TRUE PICTURE of the LOVING GOD we serve.

God is SOOOOOO LOVING
and
Patient
and
LONG suffering
and
Merciful ...

and would Have NO MAN perish.....

But
God is ALSO a JUST GOD!!!!

well, for goodness sakes....

you can be a very nice man when you want to


thank you so very much....

hahahaha...


no, there is not ....do you have one???


or in that case...does anyone here have an off switch

My off switch is excessive amounts of Rum. That's about the only time I am quiet for hours...

ooohh...here's to you & to fun & laughter

and to eternal harmony funches & rathil_thads

and everyone else here



wanna join me in A good Brother & Sister Special ???


it's made with two kinds of rum...


i love Malibu coconut rum

, and a shot of Meyer's


with some kahlua and milk


in a tall glass over ice...



Cheers.....

You are so right! That is why I say I am glad true vengeance belongs to God and not humans. What human is worthy of such a thing? We have trouble picking out a president...".

and hello to you my georgian peachy squeeze toy



because if the believer is in Heaven and doesn't find their love ones up there then unfortunely God only give one other option as to where the love ones could be at and that's having their chestnuts roasting on an open fire in Hell ..besides wouldn't Heaven have a registry that you can look at and see "The Who's Whos that made it to Heaven" like they have at weddings



well it's the bible that states that non-believers will be tortured in Hell ..and those that follow Jesus and God already know this and therefore accept and approve of this torture of their love ones



so are you saying that you will not speak against you love ones being tortured in Hell and you would still praise that God



now why would a God that is supposely all-knowing get angry ...wouldn't he know events eons before they happenned and wouldn't whatever happenned be part of his "Divine Plan" so what the heck would be the reason he would get angry ...that would mean that he suffered from short term memory loss

but "MorningSong" if God is so loving and all those other good things and even forgives mass murderers then why do God have a Hell to torture people

and that's the point "Rapunzel"... shouldn't being good be all what matters...now that you are no longer frighten to speak..then speak to God about not torturing people in Hell ..put in a good word for those non-believers

believe me, Funches....


I am definitely not afraid to speak


however,


it is the careful choosing of words that i seek


and when i am very tired,

like i was late last night on line here

or when i can't think of the right words to say

I can express myself in other ways

sometimes emoticons work ...

but we are rather limited here

in the emoticon department ...

i don't call the shots...

& i believe that God is gonna do

what is righteous through & through



but...yes...

i will definitely put in a good word

for all of the non- believers...

that is all that can be asked of you ...thanks Rapunzel

I apologize for using the term angry when describing how I think God must feel. It is not the best term to have used there. An all knowing and loving God is more hurt than angry I think when someone he loves and wants to give eternal life to manifests evil and then feels no remorse; anger is more of a sinful human emotion. God decides who to weed out of eternal life and why is all quite simply. No chamber of horrors just non existence or a finale. An end to a tortured souls self inflicted torture that is imposed upon others is doing everyone a favor. It’s viewed as win, win in my eyes. No more tears.


The bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. All who have died are there in his presence awaiting the Lord’s Day. After judgment they are blotted out if they are denied entry into Heaven and you will not remember them or want to find them if they are denied entry to the eternal life without any evil. Your name will be in the book of life or not and no it isn’t exactly like a public book at the entranceway or "The Who's Whos that made it to Heaven"



Of course the evilest souls have biological families. Are you trying to say you feel compassion for the serial murderers mother or families here? I guess really I do too. But you know the old saying…”You can bring the horse to the water but you can’t make him drink.” What do you think it should mean that because of that I should reject everything else? I guess this saying was said before you could force it down ’em with a feeding tube. And yes I guess I am accepting that truly evil, non remorseful souls will be destroyed after judgment. Yes, I suppose this could include someone I love being destroyed possibly and I would hate that. All I could do is what I do now. Hope and pray it doesn’t come to that for anyone even if I don’t know them and if it does try and make them see the light and change their evil ways if they are headed down that path. Do all possible to stop them if witnessed by me. Expect authorities to restrain, reform, destroy, etc. whatever was necessary to stop it.

What is a better alternative to handling a serial murderer? Let them alone and just hope they stop? Do you think they should be allowed in heaven? Do you think they do not deserve punishment?

As for non believer’s they can always change their mind just as anyone with freewill can and be granted eternal life too. It doesn’t stipulate when you must believe. If you think you are going to Hell it tells me you aren’t a non believer.


I heart you every night.

Hello my gorgeous, hunky, testosterone filled man you ,



How do you think a believer could know that their loves ones are being tortured in Hell? Even if they thought that they do not know what is in anyone else’s heart or mind. They do not know the private thoughts between God and anyone else. They can only suppose if they even chose to go around thinking such a thing.


Good gawd! Like I said no one can judge or know what is in someone else’s mind. Anyone who says someone else is in hell is full of it. Hell is not a place like someone going to Atlanta. It is a final death of a soul it has never happened to anyone yet. Look up the original language and definition. Heaven isn’t really a place either it is an eternity or immortality of a soul. I honestly believe this with all my heart and soul. And as far as reveling in the fact that someone else might be lesser than me and going to hell (or going to be put to a final death) that would make me a horrible person. There is no way I could know that for sure anyway even if I was horrible and could like you say actually emotionally feed off the fact that one day a multitude of others will be tormented.

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I would have little respect for a God that didn’t draw a line somewhere when it comes to punishment for wrong doings. Basically God punishes only those who do horrible, evil things to others and have no remorse. Do you not think there are some who deserve punishment? To be put out of society permanently unless remorseful? I wish no one deserved it but unfortunately there are some that I think probably deserve it. It is not my fault or God’s. I am not the judge either and my opinion of whether someone deserves it or not doesn’t matter. It is moot.


God gets angry at those that hurt others but so does most other people too. It is odd to me that you think this way. Do you think no one deserves any punishment? They should just be allowed to kill others, rape, steal, etc.? I am glad true vengeance belongs to God and not humans. What human is worthy of such a thing? We have trouble picking out a president.













LOL...you go girl~~~~

I especially like the part about us having trouble picking out a president. LOL

Oops...sorry you were talking about non believers not evil souls.

you said
QUOTE:
well it's the bible that states that non-believers will be tortured in Hell ..and those that follow Jesus and God already know this and therefore accept and approve of this torture of their love ones

This is something I do not really accept or approve of too well my dear at all. I guess that is why I make an arse of myself here in these forums. I am hoping something good said here might help someone see the light.

We do...

again "imageorgiagirl" how would and all-knowing God be hurt physically or emotionally since he would know what to expect before it even happened and created that same hurtful event to happen ..therefore a God that is hurt can only self-inflict the pain upon himself ..



so God will give you eternal life and erase the memory that you have of your non-believing love ones ..that's only an indication that there will be no "Free Thought" in Heaven



rest assure that most of the serial killers would make it a point to ask God for forgiveness and therefore live in Heaven

well, the serial killers may go through the motions of asking for forgiveness


but i can assure you, that unless they have a truly repentant heart ...

their Names will not be written in The Lamb's Book Of Life

the Lord will say to them " Depart From me, oh worker of iniquity ~ I never knew you "


< i can't remember exactly the quote , but it is similar to that >

and "iamageorgiagirl" thats the point of the thread that believers are willing to praise a God that will allow the torture of their love ones...the same love ones that by human standards are not evil souls ..but are only being torture because they choose not to praise a God that would cause and/or allow the torture of others ....