Topic: the REAL POLL
Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:54 PM

I do plenty of review from unbiased sources. I dont need your biased ones.
My question was directed to give you perspective. Reality!
If you extend these benefits to gays then there will be much abuse and you might as well extend them to everyone. Cause sooner or later they are going to demand them also!


You are a sad, sad, little man, Fanta. I hope you have at least one decent friend, someone who cares enough to make you get some help. You are bitter, paranoid and can not think critically or even rationally at times. If you truely believe in the benefit of prayer, I think it would behoove you to ask your Christian friends at the coffee hourse to do thier thing.

I will not acknowledge you further!



What a pitiful response. I hope you handle your personal discussions better than that!
You have an agenda that reasonable debate from reasonable intelligent humans wont allow. I never asked you to acknowledge me or expected it. You dont acknowledge the other 81% of Americans either!!laugh laugh laugh

Eljay's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:57 PM
Edited by Eljay on Sun 06/08/08 09:00 PM
Di;

you said:


Why do so many Christians feel vindicated in judging others by the standards they are personally unable to meet? And having done so how do they have the audacity to believe they are righteous in denying others an equal opportunity to pursue their own PERSONAL path, no matter how it deals with THEIR God?


This is rather di-ingenuous - and an ad hominum attack on your part. Who's the one passing judgement here? eH? I don't see any Christians passing judgement on ANYONE here. What is being questioned is a law that I personally don't see any need for. What is a law needed for? (when the constitution affords every citizen of this country all of the freedoms they need). If someone is being discriminated against - we already have laws for this. What's the problem here? And what has God got to do with any of this?

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:00 PM


I do plenty of review from unbiased sources. I dont need your biased ones.
My question was directed to give you perspective. Reality!
If you extend these benefits to gays then there will be much abuse and you might as well extend them to everyone. Cause sooner or later they are going to demand them also!


You are a sad, sad, little man, Fanta. I hope you have at least one decent friend, someone who cares enough to make you get some help. You are bitter, paranoid and can not think critically or even rationally at times. If you truely believe in the benefit of prayer, I think it would behoove you to ask your Christian friends at the coffee hourse to do thier thing.

I will not acknowledge you further!



What a pitiful response. I hope you handle your personal discussions better than that!
You have an agenda that reasonable debate from reasonable intelligent humans wont allow. I never asked you to acknowledge me or expected it. You dont acknowledge the other 81% of Americans either!!laugh laugh laugh



I think Fanta is brilliant and I will be his friend. The truth hurts. He is not pitiful. He is a wonderful person.flowerforyou

ArtGurl's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:01 PM
1. No

2. YES!!!! - if they'd let a Canadian vote

flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:02 PM



I do plenty of review from unbiased sources. I dont need your biased ones.
My question was directed to give you perspective. Reality!
If you extend these benefits to gays then there will be much abuse and you might as well extend them to everyone. Cause sooner or later they are going to demand them also!


You are a sad, sad, little man, Fanta. I hope you have at least one decent friend, someone who cares enough to make you get some help. You are bitter, paranoid and can not think critically or even rationally at times. If you truely believe in the benefit of prayer, I think it would behoove you to ask your Christian friends at the coffee hourse to do thier thing.

I will not acknowledge you further!



What a pitiful response. I hope you handle your personal discussions better than that!
You have an agenda that reasonable debate from reasonable intelligent humans wont allow. I never asked you to acknowledge me or expected it. You dont acknowledge the other 81% of Americans either!!laugh laugh laugh



I think Fanta is brilliant and I will be his friend. The truth hurts. He is not pitiful. He is a wonderful person.flowerforyou



drinker flowerforyou bigsmile

wouldee's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:10 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 06/08/08 09:14 PM

A power of attorney (POA) or letter of attorney in common law systems or mandate in civil law systems is an authorization to act on someone else's behalf in a legal or business matter. The person authorizing the other to act is the principal or granter (of the power), and the one authorized to act is the agent or attorney-in-fact.

Whomever is appointed executer of real property family or not has the right to sell the real property unless otherwise mentioned in the will of the deceased.





yup.

and any two people can establish LLPs under a trust that is managed by a minority interest democratically and effectively held in perpetuity by the by laws of any such trust managing all LLPs governed under its corporate charter.

Why is that so different then what the diligent do today?

It is precisely what the coherent do to keep the courts and lawyers and litigious combatants away from pludering personal equity and wealth.

It has been done ever since this country was started.

It is the earliest examples to follow as precedent in judicial impregnability.

It is litigious proof and free from plunder of malicious prosecutions.

There are so many ways to preserve wealth.

Government entitlements are not personal wealth of any. They are public assets. They are also dutifully subject to the scrutiny of the majority opinion regarding their disposition and desemination.

Family is still the preferential social institution and tradition.

Public domain is not an entitlement for any!!!!


Learn how to protect personal wealth, and the plight of lifelong companions will not suffer loss, but prosper from all that is proven good and worthwhile as a legal endeavor to act responsibly within the law to benefit from the law, as intended by the spirit of the law.

:heart:

Belushi's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:12 PM

Why do so many Christians feel vindicated in judging others by the standards they are personally unable to meet?


YES!!!! Redy, I wanna give you a biiiiiiig sloppy kiss!!!

This is my point, and always has been

Their blind sheep-like mentality is hypocritical. It always has been "Dont do as I do, do as I say" Even if the storybook they try to force upon us is found to be contradictory

And having done so how do they have the audacity to believe they are righteous in denying others an equal opportunity to pursue their own PERSONAL path, no matter how it deals with THEIR God?


Some christians on here need to deal with their frustration of not being able to get the rest of the world to kowtow to their ""love thy neighbour" but only if he agrees with me" ideal.


Belushi's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:15 PM

I do plenty of review from unbiased sources. I dont need your biased ones.
My question was directed to give you perspective. Reality!
If you extend these benefits to gays then there will be much abuse and you might as well extend them to everyone. Cause sooner or later they are going to demand them also!


You are a sad, sad, little man, Fanta. I hope you have at least one decent friend, someone who cares enough to make you get some help. You are bitter, paranoid and can not think critically or even rationally at times. If you truely believe in the benefit of prayer, I think it would behoove you to ask your Christian friends at the coffee hourse to do thier thing.

I will not acknowledge you further!


Another kiss heading your way ...

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:26 PM


Why do so many Christians feel vindicated in judging others by the standards they are personally unable to meet?


YES!!!! Redy, I wanna give you a biiiiiiig sloppy kiss!!!

This is my point, and always has been

Their blind sheep-like mentality is hypocritical. It always has been "Dont do as I do, do as I say" Even if the storybook they try to force upon us is found to be contradictory

And having done so how do they have the audacity to believe they are righteous in denying others an equal opportunity to pursue their own PERSONAL path, no matter how it deals with THEIR God?


Some christians on here need to deal with their frustration of not being able to get the rest of the world to kowtow to their ""love thy neighbour" but only if he agrees with me" ideal.





I don't love thy neighbor...Christian or not.devil drinker

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:27 PM
why Belushi, I can't tell you when I've been so happy to accept the kisses from a male!flowerforyou

Thank-you

isaac_dede's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:28 PM
1. Yes
2. Absolutly not

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:32 PM

why Belushi, I can't tell you when I've been so happy to accept the kisses from a male!flowerforyou

Thank-you


I did not know you were a lesbian Redy.smokin

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:35 PM
Saw your profile...in the last pick you look like Billy Ray Cirrus...you know...the mullet hair.drinker

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:38 PM
Hi Eljay
This is rather di-ingenuous - and an ad hominum attack on your part. Who's the one passing judgement here? eH? I don't see any Christians passing judgement on ANYONE here. What is being questioned is a law that I personally don't see any need for. What is a law needed for? (when the constitution affords every citizen of this country all of the freedoms they need). If someone is being discriminated against - we already have laws for this. What's the problem here? And what has God got to do with any of this?


have you read the link I have posted? Have you imagined Your life and the lives of your friends and family without the benefit of all the laws (all 1049 of them) that are not extended to the GLBT?????

Have you ever ONCE considered what your life would be like if you had to hide your religion from your bosses at work? Or if you were suddenly evicted from your the place you rented for being suspected of being gay - and no court in the state will help you, because there is no law against such discrimination?

Have you ever considered being denied access to those you consider family, when the law considers you nothing to them?

Have you ever been in a foreign country and your children and their mother are denied visa's to vist you, because you are not MARRIED to her?

Have you ever had to take care of your invalid partner for more than 10 years without benefit of her social security. Having to lie and say she is your sister just so the doctors will take of her?

what is wrong with all you poeple - question yourself - why don't you know these things go on? Why can't you see beyond what you WANT to believe.

Are you all so afraid of having to give up your pecious right to judge???????


tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:42 PM

Hi Eljay
This is rather di-ingenuous - and an ad hominum attack on your part. Who's the one passing judgement here? eH? I don't see any Christians passing judgement on ANYONE here. What is being questioned is a law that I personally don't see any need for. What is a law needed for? (when the constitution affords every citizen of this country all of the freedoms they need). If someone is being discriminated against - we already have laws for this. What's the problem here? And what has God got to do with any of this?


have you read the link I have posted? Have you imagined Your life and the lives of your friends and family without the benefit of all the laws (all 1049 of them) that are not extended to the GLBT?????

Have you ever ONCE considered what your life would be like if you had to hide your religion from your bosses at work? Or if you were suddenly evicted from your the place you rented for being suspected of being gay - and no court in the state will help you, because there is no law against such discrimination?

Have you ever considered being denied access to those you consider family, when the law considers you nothing to them?

Have you ever been in a foreign country and your children and their mother are denied visa's to vist you, because you are not MARRIED to her?

Have you ever had to take care of your invalid partner for more than 10 years without benefit of her social security. Having to lie and say she is your sister just so the doctors will take of her?

what is wrong with all you poeple - question yourself - why don't you know these things go on? Why can't you see beyond what you WANT to believe.

Are you all so afraid of having to give up your pecious right to judge???????





Look, I am a Christian that believes that you should be able to love whoever the hell you want and get benefits too. So, why don't you stop saying " You Christians"? Gheez, you get on my nerves. So with that being said. Until you stop bashing Christians as a whole I am gonna stay here.devil

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:44 PM
By the way, there are numerous openly gay ministers, etc... Gay people go to church too you freaking ding dong. You think all gay people are atheists?laugh

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:52 PM
Redy...I REALLY don't like you, but you will see good things happen soon. What happenned in California is just a start. Society will come around. By the way, my daughter is going with her best friend this summer to hit up the gay parade in San Diego. That's what's up. My daughter goes to church and does not judge her friends or others. I did not teach my kids to hate others. They accept people for who they are. But, I will say my daughters are much kinder than I. I wonder if my daughter is gay.noway drinker Oh well, whatever. I love them no matter what.flowerforyou

yzrabbit1's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:54 PM

no
yes

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 09:55 PM
Or, maybe, I should disown her......pause.................NOT!:cry:

isaac_dede's photo
Sun 06/08/08 10:03 PM

By the way, there are numerous openly gay ministers, etc... Gay people go to church too you freaking ding dong. You think all gay people are atheists?laugh

no....but i'm going to catch heck for this i know it...but I think they are blinded

Passage Leviticus 20:13:

13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans six
1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

I think they are blinded living in sin, but we are called to love them no matter what...not accept their behavior. Hate the sin, not the sinner.

Luke 15
The Parable of the Lost Sheep
1Now the tax collectors and "sinners" were all gathering around to hear him. 2But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, "This man welcomes sinners and eats with them."

3Then Jesus told them this parable: 4"Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.' 7I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.


But it's hard for people to judge only the Sin, and not the person. Christians in general need to realize this.