Topic: How to ID a Love Scammer
hikerchick's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:41 AM
Edited by hikerchick on Sat 05/31/08 09:42 AM


The only people who would have a problem with this post would be ...hmmm, scammers.


did you read that whole thing idiot.....ive lost my parents....and now that makes me a bad person because some other idiot was burned by yet another idiot and didnt know how to deal with it?! go see a shrink,and get over it!
i have met some of the nicest people on this site.



I too have met wonderful people on this site, but they don't call me names.

bgeorge's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:43 AM

First of all I want to say that I have not encountered any scammers on this site. happy

However, confidence is High that some are on other dating sites where scammers troll for victims. So here are some pointers for Identifying scammers.

NOTE: The folks are very organized and DANGEROUS. The picture you see is NOT the person/persons you are talking with!! You are dealing with a very organized people whose goal is to take emotional and financial advantage of you.devil

1) The have had a recent tragedy in their lives - parent died (often in a tragic way) in the last 1 - 3 years.
2) Parents are divorced and they have gone looking for their "lost" parent.
3) They caught their best friend with their boyfriend/girlfriend in bed together or some such varient.
4) They have recently been robbed or in a car accident.
5) The are currently living or working in West Africa - Nigeria or Ghana.
6) They are stranded in a foreign country and need help getting money they are owed or just flat out ask for money with a promise of repaying it when they are back in the US.
7) If you talk with them on YM or receive e-mails from them their spelling and grammer is very poor.
8) In an the first e-mail you recieve you get a "life story".
9) Your profile is the best they have ever seen and they know you are the "soul mate". (Had one that immediately said she wanted to move in with me in her first e-mail!!!!)
10) The want to know all about you and say little about themselves - other then what is on the script they are using.
11) Pictures they send are often small and only of them. Look at the pictures for signs that don't match their story. (Had one claiming she was in a refugee camp and her pictures were from a resort in Jamacia. DUH!!!!)
12) They give a hard luck story about something that has recently happened and they need you to send money via Western Union.
13) Ask you if you have a web cam so they can see you. (They won't have one.)
14) Ask you for your phone number so they can call you or ask you to send money so they can buy a phone card to call you.
15) Their YM ID is something like - "honestsoulxx"

IF YOU SUSPECT YOU ARE TALKING WITH A SCAMMER WHAT DO YOU DO?

1) Get the IP off the header of any e-mail and use dnsstuff.com to track it.
2) Check out focushawaii.com to see if their picture is there. It is one of the many sites used by scammers to steal pictures form.
3) google their name.
4) google internet love scams and check out the sites that post known scammers. There are a number of sites dedicated to busting and posting scammers. They are probably on one or more of those sites.

ONCE CONFIRMED AS A SCAMMER

CUT OFF ALL COMMUNICATION IMMEDIATELY!!!!! ADD THEM TO THE IGNORE LIST ON YM OR MS MESSENGER.

DO NOT - REPEAT DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BAIT OR PLAY WITH THEM!!!!!!! This is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. Internet Love Scams are a Multi-Million dollar industry. You are dealing with Organized Crime. And they are "Masters of the Mind Game".

If you have been scammed. Their are sites available for support.


only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve

Monier's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:44 AM
Remember - Just because somebody is paranoid does'nt mean they're not out to get you> :tongue:

hikerchick's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:44 AM
only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve


No one deserves to be scammed for trusting people.

No1sLove's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:45 AM
I have has someone try to move in way too fast, asking personal information from the very first email, which gave me a very uneasy feeling, and they may have just been being very forward, but I stopped talking to them and there was no need to block them or anything.

I was told early on not to send email to links from here or email addresses for surveys or petitions since it may just be a way to access your personal email account so they can harass you. If I'm moved to answer them at all, I do so from an anonymous email account that contains none of my personal info and is used for outgoing mail only. I throw away anything that comes into it as soon as it arrives without opening it.

I don't think anyone trying to scam will find me a very appealing target.

Very few have my IM addy, which doesn't work half the time anyway. ohwell

lilith401's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:46 AM
Sadly, there are emotional scammers too. Not just this type. Men who want affection, devotion, and suck you in like a riptide. They string you along and lie like a summer breeze.

Unfortunately they are not so easy to detect as the ones the OP is talking about.

bgeorge's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:46 AM

only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve


No one deserves to be scammed for trusting people.

i disagree...and how can you trust someone you've never met???

Redshirt's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:46 AM

only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve


No one deserves to be scammed for trusting people.


Hikerchick, money can be replaced. The one thing they could care less about robbing you of is your trust.

radiance's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:48 AM
Thanks for sharing this redshirt. My friend who is a guy got scammed by someone who claimed to be in the US but presently living in Nigeria because her mom is so sick and my friend sent her a lot of money since she promised that they will be together once her mom is out of the hospital. He thought she was for real. Later on he figured out that she is not for real.

no photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:49 AM
Thanks for the extra info Redshirt...was already aware of some of the scams, but not all. Thanks for the info on where to look for more info. Don't pay any attention to some of the other negative comments from the others...always at least one in every bunch. Have a great day!

drinker

no photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:49 AM

only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve


No one deserves to be scammed for trusting people.
and the weak minded shall never inherit the earthnoway

hikerchick's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:49 AM


only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve


No one deserves to be scammed for trusting people.

i disagree...and how can you trust someone you've never met???

I don't know sweetie, but people on dating sites do it all the time. They really want love. I have a friend who is a really smart lady with a very responsible job and she got sucked in by one of them and lost $$. They are very good at what they do and your money is gone before you know it.

I got my e-mail account hijacked because some sweet wonderful guy I met on the internet wanted to send me his picture.

It can happen to anyone.

boneyjoe's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:50 AM
wow th forums are hot today,,,,,,,,it's funny how some people just read what they want to read an miss 1/2 th subject

Redshirt's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:51 AM

Thanks for sharing this redshirt. My friend who is a guy got scammed by someone who claimed to be in the US but presently living in Nigeria because her mom is so sick and my friend sent her a lot of money since she promised that they will be together once her mom is out of the hospital. He thought she was for real. Later on he figured out that she is not for real.


There is an old Russian proverb - "Trust but verify". Not bad advise to keep in mind while on the net these days.

MsCarmen's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:51 AM

What the hell are you talking about? Why would you copy/paste this here? Are you talking about "those who lie in order to get laid"? What is this crap?


It's not crap. Where have you been or have you just started dating online? These scams are all over place and I'm glad it was posted.

hikerchick's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:52 AM

wow th forums are hot today,,,,,,,,it's funny how some people just read what they want to read an miss 1/2 th subject
I know, they see one phrase and go ballistic; thereby missing the point entirely.laugh

hikerchick's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:52 AM


only if you're a desperate idiot...then, well you get what you deserve


No one deserves to be scammed for trusting people.


Hikerchick, money can be replaced. The one thing they could care less about robbing you of is your trust.


Very true. Thanks so much for doing this!

hikerchick's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:53 AM


What the hell are you talking about? Why would you copy/paste this here? Are you talking about "those who lie in order to get laid"? What is this crap?


It's not crap. Where have you been or have you just started dating online? These scams are all over place and I'm glad it was posted.
Ah. Ms, Carmen, the very voice of reason!

Redshirt's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:55 AM

Thanks for the extra info Redshirt...was already aware of some of the scams, but not all. Thanks for the info on where to look for more info. Don't pay any attention to some of the other negative comments from the others...always at least one in every bunch. Have a great day!

drinker


Your welcome. The governments of the countries this folks operate out of don't help and our government is limited in what can be done. Awareness and knowledge are the best weapons we have.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sat 05/31/08 09:58 AM

Thanks for sharing this redshirt. My friend who is a guy got scammed by someone who claimed to be in the US but presently living in Nigeria because her mom is so sick and my friend sent her a lot of money since she promised that they will be together once her mom is out of the hospital. He thought she was for real. Later on he figured out that she is not for real.


That one is covered at snopes.com.