Topic: ????yes or no 2 abortions????
Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:35 AM


Not my body, not my choice.
since it's the baby's body maybe he/she should have a choice??????:cry:


Yes, this is something that is always lost in this debate. What about the baby? It has no say in the matter, and it's not fair.

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:36 AM




Um..How about we settle on "Everyone do whats right for YOU"ohwell


The problem with this is, when everyone makes their own rules, then basically there are none. Everything is a gray area, when really certain things are either right or wrong, when it comes right down to it.

This subject DOES have a right or wrong to it tho..Don't you think it's wrong to create a child,knowing you don't want it,let it be born and just up and kill it one day AFTER it has experienced life?..And what about women like me..My disability is genetic..I'm just supposed to have the kid KNOWING what kinda life is ahead of it?huh


First off, you have to realize life doesn't revolve around you and only you. There's more to life then just our needs. To kill a child, just because it's an inconvenince to you, is selfish. I'm sorry but it is.

As for the 2nd part, sometimes it's through difficult things like that, that you find out how strong you really are.

I don't think you read my comment at all did you?huh

lilangel2's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:37 AM
Rape is bad...Murder is worse!


Should (can we) we solve every problem with death?


Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:38 AM

Rape is bad...Murder is worse!


Should (can we) we solve every problem with death?




Yeah, why beget violence with more violence?

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:38 AM





Um..How about we settle on "Everyone do whats right for YOU"ohwell


The problem with this is, when everyone makes their own rules, then basically there are none. Everything is a gray area, when really certain things are either right or wrong, when it comes right down to it.

This subject DOES have a right or wrong to it tho..Don't you think it's wrong to create a child,knowing you don't want it,let it be born and just up and kill it one day AFTER it has experienced life?..And what about women like me..My disability is genetic..I'm just supposed to have the kid KNOWING what kinda life is ahead of it?huh


First off, you have to realize life doesn't revolve around you and only you. There's more to life then just our needs. To kill a child, just because it's an inconvenince to you, is selfish. I'm sorry but it is.

As for the 2nd part, sometimes it's through difficult things like that, that you find out how strong you really are.

I don't think you read my comment at all did you?huh


Yes I did, and I stand by my response.

lilangel2's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:38 AM



Not my body, not my choice.
since it's the baby's body maybe he/she should have a choice??????:cry:


Yes, this is something that is always lost in this debate. What about the baby? It has no say in the matter, and it's not fair.


agreed...the littlest victim...be it careless sex or even rape...the baby just lies there helpless :cry:

lilangel2's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:39 AM
Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 06/01/08 11:40 AM
If a rape victim should be allowed to MURDER...why not let her kill the RAPIST????????????????????? Think about that one LONG AND HARD!!!! drinker

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:40 AM






Um..How about we settle on "Everyone do whats right for YOU"ohwell


The problem with this is, when everyone makes their own rules, then basically there are none. Everything is a gray area, when really certain things are either right or wrong, when it comes right down to it.

This subject DOES have a right or wrong to it tho..Don't you think it's wrong to create a child,knowing you don't want it,let it be born and just up and kill it one day AFTER it has experienced life?..And what about women like me..My disability is genetic..I'm just supposed to have the kid KNOWING what kinda life is ahead of it?huh


First off, you have to realize life doesn't revolve around you and only you. There's more to life then just our needs. To kill a child, just because it's an inconvenince to you, is selfish. I'm sorry but it is.

As for the 2nd part, sometimes it's through difficult things like that, that you find out how strong you really are.

I don't think you read my comment at all did you?huh


Yes I did, and I stand by my response.

Ok..so me not wanting a baby to go through everything that I've gone through is me being selfish for me?..um..alrighty.

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:40 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Sun 06/01/08 11:44 AM
Speaking about rape too, think about this. Do you really think in 20 years, you're going to say: "Oh I wish I hadn't had this kid" if you have it? Somehow I don't think so. If anything having the child will make it easier to look back on the experience, knowing that something good came out of the situation.

DebbieJT's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:40 AM
i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:42 AM







Um..How about we settle on "Everyone do whats right for YOU"ohwell


The problem with this is, when everyone makes their own rules, then basically there are none. Everything is a gray area, when really certain things are either right or wrong, when it comes right down to it.

This subject DOES have a right or wrong to it tho..Don't you think it's wrong to create a child,knowing you don't want it,let it be born and just up and kill it one day AFTER it has experienced life?..And what about women like me..My disability is genetic..I'm just supposed to have the kid KNOWING what kinda life is ahead of it?huh


First off, you have to realize life doesn't revolve around you and only you. There's more to life then just our needs. To kill a child, just because it's an inconvenince to you, is selfish. I'm sorry but it is.

As for the 2nd part, sometimes it's through difficult things like that, that you find out how strong you really are.

I don't think you read my comment at all did you?huh


Yes I did, and I stand by my response.

Ok..so me not wanting a baby to go through everything that I've gone through is me being selfish for me?..um..alrighty.


I didn't mean that part of it was selfish, I just meant women who kill the child because it's inconvient is.

I can understand what you are saying here, but the ends do not justify the means. That baby still deserves a chance at life, regardless of what the circumstances surrounding it's birth may be.

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:43 AM

i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.

DebbieJT's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:47 AM


i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.
thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:48 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Sun 06/01/08 11:49 AM



i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.
thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives


Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not.

And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here.


lilangel2's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:50 AM
Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 06/01/08 11:50 AM



i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.
thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives


and abortion doesn't ruin lives???

Babies are not "grey" areas...they are little helpless beings...

DebbieJT's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:53 AM




i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.
thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives


Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not.

And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here.


no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well

Lied2TimedSweetie's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:55 AM
Not no but hell no.

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:55 AM





i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.
thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives


Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not.

And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here.


no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well

Exactly..how do you explain to the child that it was created out of rape and violence and not love like its supposed to be?

itsmetina's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:55 AM
yer a man its not your choice

Kleisto's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:55 AM





i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt


I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby.
thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives


Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not.

And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here.


no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well


How can you not have a choice? Again, no one is forcing you to kill your kid, I don't care what the circumstances are.

As for her life being screwed up, maybe it would be and maybe it wouldn't. But at least she'd have something good that came out of a traumatic experience.