The whole system is going 2 fall apart, It is already illegal 4 the government 2 take our money(TAX)and give it 2 someone else(WELFAR). I know peolpe who got on welfar and years
later have completly lost all interest and even the mental ability 2 do ANYTHING 4 themselves,Ur right the system cant go on. And when the checks foodstamps ect. stop, Those people will began stealing, rioting and eventualy starve.

where do you get illegal from?????? our taxes pay for things like public schools, roads, maintanence etc

my brother in law works for the texas dept of transportation....taxes pay him to fix signals..help stranded motorists and the list goes on.

welfare is not meant to support someone but to help them get on their feet etc. i hope one day you don't need help because if you take assistance to help your family...you would then be a hypocrite. medical aid helps those who can't afford private insurance or like my sister....help her to live and not be in constant pain. her husband insurance for work refuses to cover her for her hereditary blood disease. she is bed ridden and without medicaid...she wouldn't have the meds she needs or treatment.

Im sorry 2 upset u.
(in my opinion) people are 2 dependent on the government 4 everything. and what would those people do if the government couldnt help them? When medicare falls apart, what will happen 2 the people who are dependent on it do? Do u know how 2 help them? The people from mexico need the welfar,Healthcare, U want them shut off, But people u know kept on, The people from mexico can go back across an invisible line and die,or live in poverty, But u want others kept alive and in pay checks, The government gives the aid 2 whom in wants, I think people should help themselves, U want the government 2 help one group, but not another, And the 2nd group can do without because u believe
the government should not help them. that thinking sounds hypocritical.

Rose, I do know that she had the baby at the hospital and she had no money.

How about jsut eliminate it altogether? Social programs have no place in this country. Even today there is a way to make a living with your sweat of you truly have a drive to do so. Our Implementing social programs have now fostered decase after decade of addicted recipients. Theses programs have made things worse, not better.

I think in some cases it's acceptable. I don't mind helping out people who need a hand due to special circumstances, but things are way out of control right now.

I could improve my situation so much if I just went out & got pregnant! I'd pay no taxes, get food stamps, free medical care including dental, grants to weatherize my home, energy assistance, & WIC. I know a couple with 3 kids & they have so much more than I do! They won't use birth control, & they get more benifits for each child they have.

But what they recieve is still not enough to support a child on. They are still living in poverty.

The difference being as has been stated before is Illegal vs. Legal or Citizen vs. Non-Citizen.

yes, but they are content to live that way. many of them get a live in b/f that helps and is not recorded as part of their inome. Whether or not they live high on the hog does not matter, the monetary value of their benefits goes far beyond what they receive. There is a whole infrastructure of workers, buildings, equipment that also has to be figured into the cost. Why should they get that which they did not earn from you and I? Can I steal your debit card so I can support my family? No, I would go to jail. So why can the government steal from me to support them?

They have a boat, 2 cars , a motercycle, a snowmobile, eat out more than I do, smoke...

They have far more than I do!

They need to stop having kids they can't afford ! I am expecting to hear she is pregnant again any day now, since the youngest is 2 now.

certainly a good citizen is NOT exploiting the system, are they?

Hopefully none of the anti welfare and social programs people on here ever have a life event that causes them to need to ask for help. It is not even funny to watch the minds of those who have never had a catastrophic event in their lives and needed the help they paid into work to hate and unhumanize those who have needed the help.

I hope none of you see the day, I really do.

sorry...just getting here. welfare is to only help people...not for them to live on. the laws need to be changed in each state to keep people from laying around collecting welfare. it should be used only long enough to pick them back up so they can keep going on their own

dragoness...aren't you the one that insisted illegals don't get any welfare????? didn't you just get proved wrong??? sorry i noticed you didn't respond to that

Lady I have lived on my own since I was 16. I lived in a tent by the river outside of flat river, missouri, and rode a bike to work 100 hours a week at a place called Dix Greenhouse in Bonne Terre, Mo. My wage was a farm wage of 3.85 an hour with no o.t. I didn't cry, whine, or steal, I did what was right and made my own way. As an adult I have been laid off from a very good job, and got two fulltime jobs to make up for the wages that I lost. I moved on, and clawed my way to the top. Do not attempt to preach to me about crisis, I have lived it, and never once took a hand out. A real man, or woman will make whatever scarafices need to be made when the crap hits the fan. Stealing from one person to give to another in a pretense of help does not make it justified

rob...what about in my sister's case? she can't work....she can't get on any private insurance. medicaid is her only hope. i argued with dragoness about the abuse of people. i think that needs to be stopped. you can do what you did...i could too...but there are people who may have gotten laid off because the factory closed and they don't want to live off of welfare but need to support their family in the meantime. welfare should never be used to live on or as a job....it's only to help people. alot of people have paid taxes into it and ...yes they deserve to get support. those who just refuse to work or want to collect money....are wrong. they don't get as much as if they were working but they do get paid for nothing....THAT is wrong no matter how you look at it

I am sorry for your sister, but I ask you how is it my fault? If the working clas wasn't taxed to death to pay for those who didn't work perhaps we would be able to assist our family like peole used to in the bygone days. What did people do before these benefits were given out?

well in all fairness rob...her husband works and pays taxes (works for the state) and me and the rest of the family are very happy to help those in true need with our taxes.

i personally won't take assistance. i could get medicaid for myself because i have the same thing (just not as bad) i choose not to. she desperately needs it. not to mention...people legal and illegal can go to the hospital for care and not pay....we pay for that as well.

i can live the way you did...but others have kids etc and they can't. so i don't mind helping the honest people with my taxes...just not the abusers and they should be stopped

I again, who is responsible for their financial situation, and who should be made responsible for it. Your desire to assist others is admirable, but it doesn't change right and wrong. Her husband being a taxpayer isnt a issue either. If people would quit living beyond their means, and put their money away they are supposed to then it wouldnt be an issue. Further if people were not allowed to skate on their medical bils by filing bankruptcy and such, medical costs would go down. Her problems should not be passed along for me to pay for, plain and simple. Call me ogrish if you like