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Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 04/29/08 07:14 PM
Tancredo was appointed by the President (Reagan) to be the regional representative in Denver for the Department of Education. He stayed on from 1981 until 1992, through the first Bush administration, and pared the office's staff from 225 to only 60 employees. In 1993, he became president of the Independence Institute, a conservative think tank based in Golden, Colorado, serving there until his election to Congress. He was also a leader in the Colorado term limits movement. Id say hes not ignorant about education We have our problems with hatemongers here too. That is why they duplicated already existing legislation to console the hatemongers about illegals. There has been no change to the welfare rolls since the legislation was instituted because there were not illegals receiving benfits. Tancredo is a fraud at that level. Bilingual is important in schools so he is an idiot on that level.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Tue 04/29/08 07:17 PM
This is a load of crap. This is a dream world that you, and you alone live in. In the past two years I have had 5, listen to what i am saying FIVE (5) trucks hit in California by illegal immigrants with no drivers license, nor insurance. Did they pay their debt to me? Nope, MY insurance went up, they were deported, so they could sneak back across the border the following day. They steal revenue out of the economy. You know why? They take the money they make, and send the majority of it back to Old Mexico. They take jobs that we could force welfare recipients here to do that are able bodied. You cannot get a white crew on a roof in STL because they canot compare with the prices that the illegal crews are handing out. Guess what happens after the first rain though? The homeowner generally has a lot of leaks, and cannot track them back down to get repairs. They pay their debt at the hospitals? Bs, they skip on bills as they cannot be traced. You repeat the same thing over and over, and never add anything new to it. Keep telling me I am hateful, but nobody who is not a citizen of this country deserves protection under the law. I do not even agree with handouts, and free rides to our own citizens, why would I desire to pay more for something (like my insurane) because of people who are illegally here? My insurane on my rig trucks was far from cheap to begin with. I dropped Ca as a mnt state soley to get my rates back inline because of their crap Funny you mentioned the roofers in St. Louis. It is so true. I got a new roof and on the first rain it leaked. I blamed Labor Ready (no Hispanics though). My friends have complained that they hire a legit company and think there are legit workers on the roof. When they want to talk to somebody on the roof, they are surprised to find only Hispanics and nobody can speak English. And, yes, the roofs have leaked. I don't know if you know about this, Rob. My father told me he read it in the paper. St. Louis has allowed some kind of contract to hire people from Mexico to come here this spring and summer to perform yardwork. When the season is over, they are to go back to Mexico. I didn't realize that we had a shortage of people that wanted to work. The going rate for lawncutters around me is $25.00 per lawn. there is no shortage of labor in stl, they are all out of work. How do I know this? I picked up 60 people who used to roof in stl.People that hire these illegals should be shot, period. They are ruining our economy I was being sarcastic about a shortage of labor in St. Louis. I know the labor is there for lawncutting. I have a friend that owns a good roofing company and he has been telling me about the problems. Maybe you have heard of him, Heritage Roofing.

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Tue 04/29/08 07:19 PM
Tancredo was appointed by the President (Reagan) to be the regional representative in Denver for the Department of Education. He stayed on from 1981 until 1992, through the first Bush administration, and pared the office's staff from 225 to only 60 employees. In 1993, he became president of the Independence Institute, a conservative think tank based in Golden, Colorado, serving there until his election to Congress. He was also a leader in the Colorado term limits movement. Id say hes not ignorant about education Bilingual is important in schools so he is an idiot on that level. explain to me why bilingual is important in schools

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Tue 04/29/08 07:20 PM
This is a load of crap. This is a dream world that you, and you alone live in. In the past two years I have had 5, listen to what i am saying FIVE (5) trucks hit in California by illegal immigrants with no drivers license, nor insurance. Did they pay their debt to me? Nope, MY insurance went up, they were deported, so they could sneak back across the border the following day. They steal revenue out of the economy. You know why? They take the money they make, and send the majority of it back to Old Mexico. They take jobs that we could force welfare recipients here to do that are able bodied. You cannot get a white crew on a roof in STL because they canot compare with the prices that the illegal crews are handing out. Guess what happens after the first rain though? The homeowner generally has a lot of leaks, and cannot track them back down to get repairs. They pay their debt at the hospitals? Bs, they skip on bills as they cannot be traced. You repeat the same thing over and over, and never add anything new to it. Keep telling me I am hateful, but nobody who is not a citizen of this country deserves protection under the law. I do not even agree with handouts, and free rides to our own citizens, why would I desire to pay more for something (like my insurane) because of people who are illegally here? My insurane on my rig trucks was far from cheap to begin with. I dropped Ca as a mnt state soley to get my rates back inline because of their crap Funny you mentioned the roofers in St. Louis. It is so true. I got a new roof and on the first rain it leaked. I blamed Labor Ready (no Hispanics though). My friends have complained that they hire a legit company and think there are legit workers on the roof. When they want to talk to somebody on the roof, they are surprised to find only Hispanics and nobody can speak English. And, yes, the roofs have leaked. I don't know if you know about this, Rob. My father told me he read it in the paper. St. Louis has allowed some kind of contract to hire people from Mexico to come here this spring and summer to perform yardwork. When the season is over, they are to go back to Mexico. I didn't realize that we had a shortage of people that wanted to work. The going rate for lawncutters around me is $25.00 per lawn. there is no shortage of labor in stl, they are all out of work. How do I know this? I picked up 60 people who used to roof in stl.People that hire these illegals should be shot, period. They are ruining our economy I was being sarcastic about a shortage of labor in St. Louis. I know the labor is there for lawncutting. I have a friend that owns a good roofing company and he has been telling me about the problems. Maybe you have heard of him, Heritage Roofing. nope, never have actually. I am sorry, I misunderstood your sarcasm

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 07:20 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 04/29/08 07:21 PM
Tancredo was appointed by the President (Reagan) to be the regional representative in Denver for the Department of Education. He stayed on from 1981 until 1992, through the first Bush administration, and pared the office's staff from 225 to only 60 employees. In 1993, he became president of the Independence Institute, a conservative think tank based in Golden, Colorado, serving there until his election to Congress. He was also a leader in the Colorado term limits movement. Id say hes not ignorant about education We have our problems with hatemongers here too. That is why they duplicated already existing legislation to console the hatemongers about illegals. There has been no change to the welfare rolls since the legislation was instituted because there were not illegals receiving benfits. Tancredo is a fraud at that level. Bilingual is important in schools so he is an idiot on that level. Your neighbors elected him!

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Tue 04/29/08 07:20 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 04/29/08 07:22 PM
Tancredo was appointed by the President (Reagan) to be the regional representative in Denver for the Department of Education. He stayed on from 1981 until 1992, through the first Bush administration, and pared the office's staff from 225 to only 60 employees. In 1993, he became president of the Independence Institute, a conservative think tank based in Golden, Colorado, serving there until his election to Congress. He was also a leader in the Colorado term limits movement. Id say hes not ignorant about education Bilingual is important in schools so he is an idiot on that level. explain to me why bilingual is important in schools I needed to know other languages on my job and did not have them, if someone would have pushed it in school I would have had at least one other language. We are a world community now, we are not so closed off from the rest of the world as in days gone by. I wish my kids would have also learned other languages.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 07:25 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I agree Id punish the people that hire them and the ones who rent to them. Hard, and round up all the illegals, take the money from their pockets to pay for gas, and haul their arses to the border. Not out of hate, and to show it, Id kiss everyone of their hands as they stepped off the bus!

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 04/29/08 07:28 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I said that they live sparingly. They cohabitate to save money and eat together to save money and they use cash so they do not acquire debt in the form of credit. I did not say they try to avoid debt by getting paid in cash. They get paid in cash, period. That means no credit history. So no credit. I will not participate in the hate fest if that is why you are arguing with yourself, so it is a dead point, if that is where you are going.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 04/29/08 07:30 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I agree Id punish the people that hire them and the ones who rent to them. Hard, and round up all the illegals, take the money from their pockets to pay for gas, and haul their arses to the border. Not out of hate, and to show it, Id kiss everyone of their hands as they stepped off the bus! No nazi style roundups here in America please, thank you

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Tue 04/29/08 07:31 PM Edited by Winx on Tue 04/29/08 07:39 PM
This is a load of crap. This is a dream world that you, and you alone live in. In the past two years I have had 5, listen to what i am saying FIVE (5) trucks hit in California by illegal immigrants with no drivers license, nor insurance. Did they pay their debt to me? Nope, MY insurance went up, they were deported, so they could sneak back across the border the following day. They steal revenue out of the economy. You know why? They take the money they make, and send the majority of it back to Old Mexico. They take jobs that we could force welfare recipients here to do that are able bodied. You cannot get a white crew on a roof in STL because they canot compare with the prices that the illegal crews are handing out. Guess what happens after the first rain though? The homeowner generally has a lot of leaks, and cannot track them back down to get repairs. They pay their debt at the hospitals? Bs, they skip on bills as they cannot be traced. You repeat the same thing over and over, and never add anything new to it. Keep telling me I am hateful, but nobody who is not a citizen of this country deserves protection under the law. I do not even agree with handouts, and free rides to our own citizens, why would I desire to pay more for something (like my insurane) because of people who are illegally here? My insurane on my rig trucks was far from cheap to begin with. I dropped Ca as a mnt state soley to get my rates back inline because of their crap Funny you mentioned the roofers in St. Louis. It is so true. I got a new roof and on the first rain it leaked. I blamed Labor Ready (no Hispanics though). My friends have complained that they hire a legit company and think there are legit workers on the roof. When they want to talk to somebody on the roof, they are surprised to find only Hispanics and nobody can speak English. And, yes, the roofs have leaked. I don't know if you know about this, Rob. My father told me he read it in the paper. St. Louis has allowed some kind of contract to hire people from Mexico to come here this spring and summer to perform yardwork. When the season is over, they are to go back to Mexico. I didn't realize that we had a shortage of people that wanted to work. The going rate for lawncutters around me is $25.00 per lawn. there is no shortage of labor in stl, they are all out of work. How do I know this? I picked up 60 people who used to roof in stl.People that hire these illegals should be shot, period. They are ruining our economy I was being sarcastic about a shortage of labor in St. Louis. I know the labor is there for lawncutting. I have a friend that owns a good roofing company and he has been telling me about the problems. Maybe you have heard of him, Heritage Roofing. nope, never have actually. I am sorry, I misunderstood your sarcasm Quite alright. I didn't show it well. I've misunderstood yours before too.

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Tue 04/29/08 07:36 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I agree Id punish the people that hire them and the ones who rent to them. Hard, and round up all the illegals, take the money from their pockets to pay for gas, and haul their arses to the border. Not out of hate, and to show it, Id kiss everyone of their hands as they stepped off the bus! No nazi style roundups here in America please, thank you how is that nazi style? Nothing wrong with enforcing our laws

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Tue 04/29/08 07:37 PM
hell I would even rent some vans, and kick 10,000 towards the cause

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 07:37 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I agree Id punish the people that hire them and the ones who rent to them. Hard, and round up all the illegals, take the money from their pockets to pay for gas, and haul their arses to the border. Not out of hate, and to show it, Id kiss everyone of their hands as they stepped off the bus! No nazi style roundups here in America please, thank you The Nazi's rounded up all people of one ethnicity, whether they were legal citizens or not. Then they hauled them to slaughter. No Comparison!!!

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Tue 04/29/08 07:51 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I agree Id punish the people that hire them and the ones who rent to them. Hard, and round up all the illegals, take the money from their pockets to pay for gas, and haul their arses to the border. Not out of hate, and to show it, Id kiss everyone of their hands as they stepped off the bus! No nazi style roundups here in America please, thank you The Nazi's rounded up all people of one ethnicity, whether they were legal citizens or not. Then they hauled them to slaughter. No Comparison!!! Close enough, one race of people will be rounded up. Not in America Please, thank you

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 07:57 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 04/29/08 07:58 PM
i do understand why they come here and do think the employers should be punished more...but again..they choose to come here and work without benefits etc for low pay. because they make so little...they do not pay for medical or taxes for schools etc. they get paid in cash and they to say they pay in cash to avoid debt is crazy. they don't earn enough with expenses here and sending money back to pay for the big things. maybe they pay more up there or something...but not here. I agree Id punish the people that hire them and the ones who rent to them. Hard, and round up all the illegals, take the money from their pockets to pay for gas, and haul their arses to the border. Not out of hate, and to show it, Id kiss everyone of their hands as they stepped off the bus! No nazi style roundups here in America please, thank you The Nazi's rounded up all people of one ethnicity, whether they were legal citizens or not. Then they hauled them to slaughter. No Comparison!!! Close enough, one race of people will be rounded up. Not in America Please, thank you Wrong, I wouldn't round up citizens, legal immigrants, or H2-b holders!! I have many Hispanic friends. Graduated HS in southern NM 70 miles from the border. Back then we didn't have an illegal problem. Not even there, of course they used to enforce the laws and there weren't near as many bleeding hearts trying to give away their country.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 08:00 PM
hell I would even rent some vans, and kick 10,000 towards the cause Folks might call me an SOB, but they'd also say, "Problem Solved!"

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Tue 04/29/08 08:12 PM
lmao...i love being accused of arguing with myself when she answers back they live together because they can't afford otherwise on their wages. how would they get credit being illegals???? again how do you bill someone who is illegal???? i have many hispanic friends and neighbors as well. my new little cousin is 1/2 hispanic and i love her and her dad and dad's family. they are here legally or citizens. everyone i know is disgusted with the taxes for education and medical. i know it's hard in their country but why should we have to pay in our taxes????? we have people we end up paying for here that are citizens

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 08:17 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 04/29/08 08:17 PM
I keep looking for a small point in your posts that I can pick at, but I find myself agreeing too much. Maybe we should find a different topic..

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/29/08 08:19 PM
Or you could pick at me. This agreeing isnt agreeing......LMAO