Have to agree with ya on that one...

My ex used to leave me messages on the answering machine...screw dinner, I want something else on the table when I get home.

A NOTE??????

lol, the man knew what he wanted for dinner didn't he...

Yeah one of the ladies where he worked wrote him a note telling him what she wanted to do to him... he said he almost fell out of his chair when he read it.. they eventually ended up dating for a while after that...

He did have a healthy appetite. And I can never say he wasn't fun.

We all do, hey we are human, and all have desires, and a desire to satisfy them... we wouldn't be human if we didn't..

You said it 2Btrue!

Thank you No1sLove.. Names Daniel btw.. nice to meet you..

Holding hands is a safe way to see if they are interested....or a touch on the arm first....
if i'm interested i try to let her know with whatever signs i can give....eye contact, moving close....if she reciprocates I would then try to hold her hand, but i would not ask....

if she wasn't interested than she would have to let me know & that would end the guessing part....

Definitely not! I always use this as an "interest indicator." If you are holding hands with someone and you squeeze tightly, if they squeeze back it shows that they are interested. I also use other very subtle forms of touch as a means of getting a woman to let her guard down a little. It works.

Certainly alot of different views here but I know one thing....I personally think holding hands is intimate...not a casual thing especially when the guy brags that he has 3 or 4 meet & greets... after the one he is on.....so, is he holding hands with everyone??? Not my thing. He's looking for love anywhere he can get it. Holding hands to me is a non-verbal..."I think you are special...." and not something you do 5 minutes after meeting someone. Surely that wasn't a good match.

I'd probabaly have my wind up hand buzzer ready! You know the one with the ring that fits the finger! Hell if she doesn't break your jaw after that you know she's the woman for you!

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I really think it would be strange if a guy asked me if he could hold my hand. I don't like it if someone asks me if he can kiss me either....it makes me feel like he doesn't know if I like him or not. If he has to ask, then its just not there!! I don't think that holding hands should even be thought about on a first date...unless it was such an amazing first date that you could actually make me fall head over heals in love with you! Trust me, thats not going to happen...so, don't be trying to hold me hand or I am going to be feeling strange about the whole situation. I don't like to kiss on the first date either..a hug is fine but a kiss can wait for a later date!!

So then with this thought in mind, you would like the meeting to be casual the first time would you expect to open your own door and go to dinner dutch. Because both of these could be consider stages of an intimat relationship

You know, a lot of women do have their own money and can pay their own way. We do not go out on dates just to get a free night out! I have no problem with paying my own way then that way nothing is expected in return

I still maintain that amongst the men I've dated, the ones I respected and liked the most asked me to hold my hand or give me a hug...maybe its my boundary thing and the fact they didn't cross over without my ok was good for me. Maybe not good for everyone else. I don't mind a door being opened --that's something one would do for a complete stranger but you wouldn't, for instance, hold a strangers hand after meeting them for the first time. I would definitely pay for my own dinner....

Everyone has their own boundaries.

I honestly would not want to date a guy that wasn't sure enough of his own "instincts" to not be able to 'read' me and go from there. That he'd KNOW by my body language and 'aura' whether he is invited further or not.



Ask? pffft no thanks. I like confidence.

But everyone's different.