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Seamonster
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From Eljay:
"Most likely for the same reason you won't read anything by Kent Hovind unless it's from someone attempting to discredit him". Kent Hovind, is in jail for tax evasion. And..... From Wik: Hovind maintains that biology textbooks are lying and that he considers evolution to be a religion. Specifically, he claims that "all" evidence "used to support the evolution theory is [sic] errors." His reason is that there is a conspiracy "brainwashing" youth and that "evolution theory supports communism, Nazism, socialism, and the New World Order." In addition, he claims "I am not trying to get the evolution theory out of the schools." He has claimed that everything is a religion, including mathematics. Hovind has several conspiracy theories about the U.S. government. He believes that the cyanide-releasing compound Laetrile is a "cancer cure" and argues that the US government is conspiring to suppress a cure for cancer. On his radio program he has said that the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks by Al-Qaeda terrorists killing nearly 3000 people and that a "lot of folks were told not to come to work." He also believes the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out by the government. "Did you know the Federal Government blew up their own building to blame it on the militias and to get rid of some people that weren't cooperating with the system?"Regarding UFOs Hovind recommends books by conspiracy theorists who believe "some UFO’s are U.S. Government experiments with electrogravitic propulsion as opposed to jet propulsion, while others are Satanic apparitions." Additionally, Hovind believes that the Federal Reserve, the Council on Foreign Relations, the United Nations, and various other groups are actively planning to create a one world government and that the 1993 World Trade Center attack was staged by the US Government in order to pass "anti-terrorism" legislation that restricts civil liberties. He says, "I love my country, but fear my government. And you should too."He also believes there is no such thing as the separation of church and state, and opposes public schools. |
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That's why they say "Be careful what you ask for."  
evolutionist think 
I know 
well you think you know because you don't understand science, and never will. So you cling to an old book, it's easer than actually thinking. Oh sure ok......it's funny that this is always what you come back too....Be careful who you are calling to stupid here...... It's always the same....can't prove and then get personal....it's old and weak...try again 
not getting personal. It has been shown to you over and over again and you still do not understand it. Thats just how it is. So, it seems easer for you to just think an invisible wizard that lives in the sky did it. ok. But I am a bit tierd of showing you the same proof again and again and you still refusing or are just unable to understand it. And then you ask the same questions again. |
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That's why they say "Be careful what you ask for."
evolutionist think
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well you think you know because you don't understand science, and never will. So you cling to an old book, it's easer than actually thinking. |
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Religion breeds atrocity
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"Religion breeds atrocity"
Always has always will. |
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I'm basicly an atheist\agnostic, and I used to believe in a god but life is so much better now that I've thrown those chains off.
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yea we branched of blah blah blah....it's all evolution theory crap.....believe it.....I will never......and yes according to dawin darling we came from monkey.......crap crap crap. And sorry darling but my intelligence is not based on whether I came from whatever primate it is this week...because you guys can't even decide amongst yourselves which it is....pleaseeeee ok seamonster....i think i'm understanding what you are saying (not my belief but that's ok...we all have different beliefs....obviously lol) ok (playing middle man for a second) people that believe in a higher power (whatever that may be to them) rely on faith in their beliefs....but can't explain where that higher power came from (an arguement of science) people that rely on science can't prove where the "dot came from" so at some point....it's unknown (an arguement of believers of a higher power) ***note...not all people that believe in a higher power believe in creationism. i'm just trying to make the above easier have i got this pretty close? yep. And even if the big bang and the singularity and all that is true, that does not mean that there is no god. It pretty much proves the christian god false, but there still can be a god of some sorts. I think that is misleading....I am not sure....because I can't believe in evolution as far as coming from an animal and also believe in the creator....Now does this mean that I can't believe that within our own species we evolve.....sure I can.... Now if God has always been.....The Bible says He is, was, and always will be...That pretty much means to me that he has always been. It also says that God created the Heaven and the Earth and all that reign thereof. So if just for argument sake I believe this to be absolute truth. Then to say that the earth was created by a big bang in which flossom fell from the sky and into the water so on and so on.....Well if this planet was just a massive nothiness where did the water come from, where and how did this flossom fall in the water, and did it's thing which included us turning from a primate into us...And if so why are the primates still here. And if we branched off from the primate again why would that be. It makes no sense why that would happen in the first place. Now you want to again put us and/or God in a Christian box.....God is God and that is that. And people say God is Love and no matter what I do he will always love me...And this is 100% accurate God will always love you no matter what. But just like our Fathers God is the Father of all, and you misbehave or sin...God is not going to let you get away with that...Why? because he does love you. And just like our father. God the Father gives us laws to live by break the law and suffer the consequence. Does this mean that God doesn't love us....No it's just means you have to live as God wants not as you yourself want...Is that an easy thing to do....NOPE hardest thing ever...But it is the way it is. And logic it to death, call it so unfair, and say that can't be love. But it is... And no matter how bad you are....God is a forgiving God. And if you look at it like that instead of being selfish because you want to do whatever the heck you want to do......well again this is why God created us with freewill...He wants you to come to him of that freewill....And if you do and give yourselves completely to the Lord.....WOW you can't explain to someone what having the Holy Spirit or the Lord in your life means....You either have it or you don't. Does this mean that life is always a bowl of cherries, NOPE you will always have trials and tribulations in life. But I know at least for me that having the Lord in my life....I am so beyond blessed. We just had to close the doors of our company after 55 years in business.....Do I fear for what may happen....no I do not because I know the Lord will never forsake me and for whatever tribulations come along..there is always a purpose and always to glorfy God. First of all yes, it makes perfect sense that we evolved from a primate state to what we are today and that there are still monkeys. Again that is the religious lie. And anyone that that understands evolution would know that. And then you say that if we "sin" which could mean being a generous and kind person that helps others and is loveing and careing our entire lives we will burn forever in pain and torment because we did'nt believe in that god. O.K. you call that loveing, I call it insanity. It's like my kid getting strait A's in school and I beat him severly because he did'nt praise me for bringing him into the world so he could get those A's. No it will never make sense...because they are still here and so are we......if we evolve it's to go ahead of what were were previously because environment or whatever......If you want to believe you came from an ape....well you have fun with that.... While you are harping on thinking that anyone least of all God wants you to burn in hell damnation...well it's just not true. This is what the Lord says: The Lord says that there is nothing that you can do to make Him love you more. There is nothing you could do to make Him love you any less. He loves you because He loves you, because He loves because He loves you because He loves you because He loves you. Because that is what He (The Lord) is like. It is his nature to love. His love is unchanging He loves you 100% He wont like you any better when you become better He loves you 100% If you don't ever change He still loves you If you don't walk with Him, He will still love you Because that is who He is. Are you realy that dumb? Realy? I (and many others) many many times have told you that WE DID NOT EVOLVE FROM APES!!!!! I realy do not know how to break that down to where you can understand it. You ask the same questions over and over again and make the same statements over and over again even after they have been answerd over and over again. You either can not or will not learn. I could explain why there are still monkeys AGAIN but you will either not understand it or refuse to and then ask the same question and make the same statement again. You can not understand science,do not try, stick to your bible,it's simple. there is no actual thinking or learning involved. I rest my case. |
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ok seamonster....i think i'm understanding what you are saying (not my belief but that's ok...we all have different beliefs....obviously lol) ok (playing middle man for a second) people that believe in a higher power (whatever that may be to them) rely on faith in their beliefs....but can't explain where that higher power came from (an arguement of science) people that rely on science can't prove where the "dot came from" so at some point....it's unknown (an arguement of believers of a higher power) ***note...not all people that believe in a higher power believe in creationism. i'm just trying to make the above easier have i got this pretty close? yep. And even if the big bang and the singularity and all that is true, that does not mean that there is no god. It pretty much proves the christian god false, but there still can be a god of some sorts. I think that is misleading....I am not sure....because I can't believe in evolution as far as coming from an animal and also believe in the creator....Now does this mean that I can't believe that within our own species we evolve.....sure I can.... Now if God has always been.....The Bible says He is, was, and always will be...That pretty much means to me that he has always been. It also says that God created the Heaven and the Earth and all that reign thereof. So if just for argument sake I believe this to be absolute truth. Then to say that the earth was created by a big bang in which flossom fell from the sky and into the water so on and so on.....Well if this planet was just a massive nothiness where did the water come from, where and how did this flossom fall in the water, and did it's thing which included us turning from a primate into us...And if so why are the primates still here. And if we branched off from the primate again why would that be. It makes no sense why that would happen in the first place. Now you want to again put us and/or God in a Christian box.....God is God and that is that. And people say God is Love and no matter what I do he will always love me...And this is 100% accurate God will always love you no matter what. But just like our Fathers God is the Father of all, and you misbehave or sin...God is not going to let you get away with that...Why? because he does love you. And just like our father. God the Father gives us laws to live by break the law and suffer the consequence. Does this mean that God doesn't love us....No it's just means you have to live as God wants not as you yourself want...Is that an easy thing to do....NOPE hardest thing ever...But it is the way it is. And logic it to death, call it so unfair, and say that can't be love. But it is... And no matter how bad you are....God is a forgiving God. And if you look at it like that instead of being selfish because you want to do whatever the heck you want to do......well again this is why God created us with freewill...He wants you to come to him of that freewill....And if you do and give yourselves completely to the Lord.....WOW you can't explain to someone what having the Holy Spirit or the Lord in your life means....You either have it or you don't. Does this mean that life is always a bowl of cherries, NOPE you will always have trials and tribulations in life. But I know at least for me that having the Lord in my life....I am so beyond blessed. We just had to close the doors of our company after 55 years in business.....Do I fear for what may happen....no I do not because I know the Lord will never forsake me and for whatever tribulations come along..there is always a purpose and always to glorfy God. First of all yes, it makes perfect sense that we evolved from a primate state to what we are today and that there are still monkeys. Again that is the religious lie. And anyone that that understands evolution would know that. And then you say that if we "sin" which could mean being a generous and kind person that helps others and is loveing and careing our entire lives we will burn forever in pain and torment because we did'nt believe in that god. O.K. you call that loveing, I call it insanity. It's like my kid getting strait A's in school and I beat him severly because he did'nt praise me for bringing him into the world so he could get those A's. No it will never make sense...because they are still here and so are we......if we evolve it's to go ahead of what were were previously because environment or whatever......If you want to believe you came from an ape....well you have fun with that.... While you are harping on thinking that anyone least of all God wants you to burn in hell damnation...well it's just not true. This is what the Lord says: The Lord says that there is nothing that you can do to make Him love you more. There is nothing you could do to make Him love you any less. He loves you because He loves you, because He loves because He loves you because He loves you because He loves you. Because that is what He (The Lord) is like. It is his nature to love. His love is unchanging He loves you 100% He wont like you any better when you become better He loves you 100% If you don't ever change He still loves you If you don't walk with Him, He will still love you Because that is who He is. Are you realy that dumb? Realy? I (and many others) many many times have told you that WE DID NOT EVOLVE FROM APES!!!!! I realy do not know how to break that down to where you can understand it. You ask the same questions over and over again and make the same statements over and over again even after they have been answerd over and over again. You either can not or will not learn. I could explain why there are still monkeys AGAIN but you will either not understand it or refuse to and then ask the same question and make the same statement again. You can not understand science,do not try, stick to your bible,it's simple. there is no actual thinking or learning involved. |
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ok seamonster....i think i'm understanding what you are saying (not my belief but that's ok...we all have different beliefs....obviously lol) ok (playing middle man for a second) people that believe in a higher power (whatever that may be to them) rely on faith in their beliefs....but can't explain where that higher power came from (an arguement of science) people that rely on science can't prove where the "dot came from" so at some point....it's unknown (an arguement of believers of a higher power) ***note...not all people that believe in a higher power believe in creationism. i'm just trying to make the above easier have i got this pretty close? yep. And even if the big bang and the singularity and all that is true, that does not mean that there is no god. It pretty much proves the christian god false, but there still can be a god of some sorts. I think that is misleading....I am not sure....because I can't believe in evolution as far as coming from an animal and also believe in the creator....Now does this mean that I can't believe that within our own species we evolve.....sure I can.... Now if God has always been.....The Bible says He is, was, and always will be...That pretty much means to me that he has always been. It also says that God created the Heaven and the Earth and all that reign thereof. So if just for argument sake I believe this to be absolute truth. Then to say that the earth was created by a big bang in which flossom fell from the sky and into the water so on and so on.....Well if this planet was just a massive nothiness where did the water come from, where and how did this flossom fall in the water, and did it's thing which included us turning from a primate into us...And if so why are the primates still here. And if we branched off from the primate again why would that be. It makes no sense why that would happen in the first place. Now you want to again put us and/or God in a Christian box.....God is God and that is that. And people say God is Love and no matter what I do he will always love me...And this is 100% accurate God will always love you no matter what. But just like our Fathers God is the Father of all, and you misbehave or sin...God is not going to let you get away with that...Why? because he does love you. And just like our father. God the Father gives us laws to live by break the law and suffer the consequence. Does this mean that God doesn't love us....No it's just means you have to live as God wants not as you yourself want...Is that an easy thing to do....NOPE hardest thing ever...But it is the way it is. And logic it to death, call it so unfair, and say that can't be love. But it is... And no matter how bad you are....God is a forgiving God. And if you look at it like that instead of being selfish because you want to do whatever the heck you want to do......well again this is why God created us with freewill...He wants you to come to him of that freewill....And if you do and give yourselves completely to the Lord.....WOW you can't explain to someone what having the Holy Spirit or the Lord in your life means....You either have it or you don't. Does this mean that life is always a bowl of cherries, NOPE you will always have trials and tribulations in life. But I know at least for me that having the Lord in my life....I am so beyond blessed. We just had to close the doors of our company after 55 years in business.....Do I fear for what may happen....no I do not because I know the Lord will never forsake me and for whatever tribulations come along..there is always a purpose and always to glorfy God. First of all yes, it makes perfect sense that we evolved from a primate state to what we are today and that there are still monkeys. Again that is the religious lie. And anyone that that understands evolution would know that. And then you say that if we "sin" which could mean being a generous and kind person that helps others and is loveing and careing our entire lives we will burn forever in pain and torment because we did'nt believe in that god. O.K. you call that loveing, I call it insanity. It's like my kid getting strait A's in school and I beat him severly because he did'nt praise me for bringing him into the world so he could get those A's. |
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didn't darwin propose the monkey and man thing??? i guess i'm confused on other theories out there??? Darwin said that man and ape had a common ancestor, we share 96% to 98% the same DNA. And Chromosome #2 proves that we are related in that sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2_(human) Chromosome #2 is proof of evolution. It is not "proof" - it's conjecture. Until thy take an Ape and fuse two of it's Chromo's to get a man - it isn't proved. It's incredibly strong evidence. |
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ok seamonster....i think i'm understanding what you are saying (not my belief but that's ok...we all have different beliefs....obviously lol) ok (playing middle man for a second) people that believe in a higher power (whatever that may be to them) rely on faith in their beliefs....but can't explain where that higher power came from (an arguement of science) people that rely on science can't prove where the "dot came from" so at some point....it's unknown (an arguement of believers of a higher power) ***note...not all people that believe in a higher power believe in creationism. i'm just trying to make the above easier have i got this pretty close? yep. And even if the big bang and the singularity and all that is true, that does not mean that there is no god. It pretty much proves the christian god false, but there still can be a god of some sorts. |
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ok i'm off to bed.
And on a cool note my Jimmy Buffett tickets came today!! YAY!!! |
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so the new theory of evolution is dna???? Darwin's theory still holds strong. The DNA Chrom #2 just seals the deal. Like I said the only debate is how it works not if it does. We have transitional fossils and DNA that prove evolution, some people either can not or refuse to understand it or are just scared to try. |
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It's not updated ohhhhh they tried......it is dead...it is debunked....Even the schools took it out... actually none of that is true. Just another religious lie to try and save a dieing superstition. |
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Topic:
my tix
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why??? Because tellatubies on ice was sold out. What do you mean why? |
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Edited by
Seamonster
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Thu 02/26/09 07:44 PM
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didn't darwin propose the monkey and man thing??? i guess i'm confused on other theories out there??? Darwin said that man and ape had a common ancestor, we share 96% to 98% the same DNA. And Chromosome #2 proves that we are related in that sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2_(human) Chromosome #2 is proof of evolution. |
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so where did that dot come from? i know the big bang wasn't darwin's. i was listing it with theories the dot? Good question, Don't know. No-one does....yet. Also a good question is whats outside the dot if all space, time and matter is inside the dot? Again, Don't know. That's the cool thing about science. You get to say "I Don't Know, Lets Find Out." |
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Topic:
simple question
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I'm not picky.   Agreed, would need to be attracted to them.
Godfried's got personality. |
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my tix
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I just got my Jimmy Buffett tix today!!!!
Yay!! |
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it doesn't disturb me because I stated what I believe. I'm just trying to figure out what theory is being talked about. trying to understand is all. I know darwin had a theory, the big bang theory...i guess i'm not up to date 
Don't feel bad about not being up to date. Most people aren't. I certainly am not. But I am glad someone is out there gathering information and evidence about things. lol join the club. doesn't mean it will change my beliefs but i'm just trying to figure out the debate here. i guess i assumed the theory was darwin's...hey i've been wrong before lol The big bang is not Darwins. I believe Hawking is the real brain behind the big bang. The universe is expanding, we know this,we can see and study it. So if it is expanding it only makes sense that it had to start somewere. And that is called the singularity. All space and time is in a dot the size of a pinhead. Then BANG it explodes and starts expanding at great speeds. And then it starts to slow down. We know that it's slowing down. So, if it is slowing down then we can assume that it will probably stop. Thats where the big crunch comes in. all space and matter will start moving back to the singularity. To where it starts all over again. And who knows how many times it has happend before. Billions? Trillions? And if this is the case then it only makes sense that at some point it will spring life. And may have before. Thats it in a nutshell. |
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 I'm lost....which theory of evolution are we talking about??? darwin's or what???
evolution is a fact. how it works is where the debate is. Whether it be through natural selection or other means. |
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