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Hello Plainome..... Boy did you just Bite!!! Hahahaha!!! I find it fascinating that those that say they know, and decide for you what you know.... are usually the ones who are clueless.. 
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. We have no clue what unconditional love is. Dont lie to yourself. Excuse me?!? You may not know or understand, but to claim that No one does, is to claim to know all..........and you don't. I have experienced it more times than I can count on one hand. It is probably the only truth in a world full of lies............. P.S. Everyone "lies" to themselves until they are capable of seeing the truth........but being aware of that fact is the first step.........maybe instead of judging whether I do, you should take a hard look at yourself. There are always conditions to love...their is no unconditional love here. |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Sin/Evil is the opposite of God. The Ying and Yang if you will. The balance. I believe God has everything in balance. God is Balance and Balance is God. Just as God is Love. Evil is hate Love is God. Is God the balance or is he the good?? You can't both be the balance and the good. And you are wrong, the opposite of evil............is TRUTH! |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Sin/Evil is the opposite of God. The Ying and Yang if you will. The balance. I believe God has everything in balance. God is Balance and Balance is God. Just as God is Love. Evil is hate Love is God. Is God the balance or is he the good?? You can't both be the balance and the good. And you are wrong, the opposite of evil............is TRUTH! Evil is a 2x4 plank of wood floating in the perfection of the Pacific Ocean. Evil is a blemish on the rear end of a mosquito flying through the grand canyon of Gods perfect creation called the universe. In fact Evil to God is probably like a Q-tip that he uses to clean his left ear with. He would obliterate it if it wasn’t for his love for us. So, he loves us so much that he takes time out of his hectic schedule to crush it. Why? so that he can save us. As humans we really have a self important view of ourselves don’t you think. Gods Goodness ,His mercy and Love is greater than the greatest thing you can ever Imagine. We were his experiment in case you have forgotten. I mean he will crush and obliterate evil one day. He will do what he wants when he wants to do it. He is the BALANCE of all that is great and pure. We are not. |
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. What is the big deal here? All you have to do (to avoid hell) is tell God your sorry for your sins and ask for forgiveness through is sons passion for US! And mean it and genuinely and freely choose to love him. Wow...is that to much to ask??? I mean his son toke care of the hard part. Do what ya want after all its your funeral…Haaa haaaa. That would imply that I believe this being has the power to forgive me of sin, when imo, you can only sin against yourself........and therefore only you can grant yourself forgiveness. |
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. What is the big deal here. All you have to do(to avoid hell) is tell God your sorry for your sins and ask for forgivness through is sons passion for US! and mean it and genuenly and freely choose to love him. WoW...is that to much to ask??? Which god, am I supposed to ask? Your god, his god? her god? Their god? Which god? 
The one true God. The one who wants the best for you and all of your brothers and sisters. The God of love and forgiveness. The God of righteous anger and vengeance. The God who set everything in motion and created every atom that exist. I AM THAT I AM. The awesome dude who gave us everything. Not the one that wants you to hate and divide and debase yourself and others. Not the one who loves greed and anger and theft and lies. God is a male figure …so I don’t want to hear any crap from the fema –nazi’s party here. |
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GOD, a sadistic tyrant ?
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Sat 09/13/08 01:58 PM
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. What is the big deal here? All you have to do (to avoid hell) is tell God your sorry for your sins and ask for forgiveness through is sons passion for US! And mean it and genuinely and freely choose to love him. Wow...is that to much to ask??? I mean his son toke care of the hard part. Do what ya want after all its your funeral…Haaa haaaa. |
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. I dont want to change anyone here. I'm just given my view is all. |
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Exactly the same................you aren't going to change my mind. I know what unconditional love is.............and what it is not. We have no clue what unconditional love is. Dont lie to yourself. |
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After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he? God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make. God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.” Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes. Just my opinion. Duet 7:10 “For those who CHOOSE to hate him.” Making a choice to hate god. Free will. You chose to hate God you go to hell. Simple really. I bet God loves it when people listen to ac/dc I like the music and it hasn’t caused me to murder anyone yet or slit my wrist. See what I mean. Free will BABY!!!!!! THATS THEIR CHOICE. |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Sin/Evil is the opposite of God. The Ying and Yang if you will. The balance. I believe God has everything in balance. God is Balance and Balance is God. Just as God is Love. Evil is hate Love is God. |
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GOD, a sadistic tyrant ?
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Sat 09/13/08 01:48 PM
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right discussions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. If my child became a prostitute I would see it as her choice. I would wonder if it were due to a lack of money and out of necessity. I would wonder if she simply looked at it as a job.........I would not judge her, nor would I not be in her life anymore because she chose such a thing. If one or both of my children became child molesters, I would want to find them help as I believe it to be a psychological disorder, not necessarily a simple matter of choosing evil over good, but something that is deep seated that causes them to get sexually excited at the thought of another child. I would not judge them, or hate them, of kick them out of my life..........I would be concerned for them and try to keep them away from children. IF they became murderers I would wonder why?? What happened that made them feel that killing another was their only way out of something. I would not judge them for it, and would be by their side until I no longer could be. People who make these kinds of choices do so for reasons far beyond a desire to sin. What is sin?? Who decides what sin is, and if God created everything, he created sin then, no?? If he created sin, then he is capable of being in the presence of sin. As a matter of fact, one who creates can not create something that they do not identify with. So then, if you follow that logic, GOD KNOWS AND HAS SIN! Ok... what if your child murdered your wonderful husband and two of your other children and then raped you ...how would you feel then? God offers us help every minute of everyday its called our Conscience and the Bible and pain and regret etc. |
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After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he? God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make. God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.” Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes. Just my opinion. Duet 7:10 “For those who CHOOSE to hate him.” Making a choice to hate god. Free will. You chose to hate God you go to hell. Simple really. I bet God loves it when people listen to ac/dc I like the music and it hasn’t caused me to murder anyone yet or slit my wrist. See what I mean. Free will BABY!!!!!! |
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GOD, a sadistic tyrant ?
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After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he? God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make. God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.” Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes. Just my opinion. Duet 7:10 “For those who CHOOSE to hate him.” Making a choice to hate god. Free will. You chose to hate God you go to hell. Simple really. That is not true at all. You can love him and follow the beliefs of the wrong church and go to hell. You can not hate him and live a good life but not be religious and go to hell. Etc... There are alot of scenerios that do not call for hating god and get you into hell. So not true. Religions are not God. God is God. Religions are created to organize people. One God many religions. Watch a person’s actions that will tell you if they are with God or not. I do believe that Jesus is the son of the one true God. |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. If your child became a prostitute or a murderer or a child molester etc. You would despise their actions but would still love the child that you created. The loss of what might have been or became of your child if they had only made the right decisions would be the thing that would break your heart and make you weep. Not to mention God knows what awaits us in hell...we only have an idea. |
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and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10 Absolutely. If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period. Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd. Why would God be weeping? If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about. If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system. It's as simple as that. The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine. It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell. Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them. People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'? They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging. In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't. Hell is a void with out Gods presence. God can not have you in his presence if you are full of Sin. So you go to a place where God chooses not to be. He isn’t putting you anywhere you didn’t decide to go. |
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After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he? God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make. God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.” Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes. Just my opinion. Ok, BUT, IF and I mean "IF" God (of the Bible) is all powerful, all knowing, and created everything..............then that means he created hell, yes?? For what purpose?? And how does not believing that he is God, and not handing over our souls to him mean that we are jumping off a cliff?? You must believe in me, become my devoted servant, or else all is lost?? No thinking for yourself, no life of your own, I gave you life. You know what that sounds like?? It sounds like a mother who is frustrated with her child because her child has gained a mind of his own, and in order to control his behavior she plays the, "I brought you into this world, I can send you out." card. But really, it is an empty threat, she is simply angry because she has little or no control, and is using manipulation to get her way.........or just venting. Btw, the Bible claims that God gave us our souls and that all things will return to God, so how will our souls go to hell, unless he sends them there, and what choice do we have in the matter IF our souls go back to him or not??? And if he owns our souls, then your point about FREE WILL is a moot one. The way the world is now how everything is now...It’s not the way it was supposed to be. We live in this existence and experience it the way it is and we can’t really see that it was originally meant to be paradise. We are in a battle every day. It’s a spiritual and physical battle. We have it in us to be our own kings and Queens and we only have to love and worship the creator of EVERYTHING to be that. The battle that rages everyday is going on because of the strife between God and Satan. God wants his children back and the Devil is corrupting his children every day. God can not look upon sin or have it in his presence so when you choose to not follow Gods laws/rules to live by you turn your back on him. God has rules just like you and me. Everyone has a boss except God…I’m more than ok with that. |
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After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he? God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make. God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.” Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes. Just my opinion. Duet 7:10 “For those who CHOOSE to hate him.” Making a choice to hate god. Free will. You chose to hate God you go to hell. Simple really. |
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After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he? God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make. God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.” Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes. Just my opinion. wouldnt he be a tyrant for simply allowing such a place to exist? He gave free will to the Devil as well as Man so blame Satan for hell existing. God is so gracious he even gave the Devil his wish. He let Satan rule over hell. Careful what you ask for and/or demand ...right!!! God wanted us to have free will and the power to choose. Wouldn’t you rather have a real friend or lover than a robot that lacks emotion and the ability to choose? God wanted to commune with us. God wanted to walk and talk with us and to be our father. Satan and man screwed everything up as usual. Don’t worry though the good Lord always wins in the end and the beginning. |
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A loser in love
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The Joker is the only fool.... 
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