After all if you refuse to worship him, he will send you to a place where you will be riding and screaming in exquisite pain for ever and ever. So is he?

cool. hell has all the good bands

Hmm, I believe it is mankind that uses fear as a manipulation tool, not "God".

i love you

Before you can refuse to worship him you have to believe he exists.

Do you?

God doesn’t send you to hell...you send you to hell by the choices you make.

God says ”Hey I love you so very much …so please don’t jump off that 500 foot cliff” and some of us say “It’s all your fault and I’m jumping off .” Others say “ok…I love you too and I’m going to listen to you because you know a lot more about life than I ever will.”

Free will, humility and a strong trust in God is where it’s at my man.Take some personal responsibility for goodness sakes.

Just my opinion.

wouldnt he be a tyrant for simply allowing such a place to exist?

Ok, BUT, IF and I mean "IF" God (of the Bible) is all powerful, all knowing, and created everything..............then that means he created hell, yes??

For what purpose?? And how does not believing that he is God, and not handing over our souls to him mean that we are jumping off a cliff?? You must believe in me, become my devoted servant, or else all is lost?? No thinking for yourself, no life of your own, I gave you life.

You know what that sounds like?? It sounds like a mother who is frustrated with her child because her child has gained a mind of his own, and in order to control his behavior she plays the, "I brought you into this world, I can send you out." card. But really, it is an empty threat, she is simply angry because she has little or no control, and is using manipulation to get her way.........or just venting.

Btw, the Bible claims that God gave us our souls and that all things will return to God, so how will our souls go to hell, unless he sends them there, and what choice do we have in the matter IF our souls go back to him or not??? And if he owns our souls, then your point about FREE WILL is a moot one.

and if you have ever read the bible before, you would know that God does in fact send you there. Duet 7:10

He gave free will to the Devil as well as Man so blame Satan for hell existing. God is so gracious he even gave the Devil his wish. He let Satan rule over hell. Careful what you ask for and/or demand ...right!!!

God wanted us to have free will and the power to choose. Wouldn’t you rather have a real friend or lover than a robot that lacks emotion and the ability to choose? God wanted to commune with us. God wanted to walk and talk with us and to be our father. Satan and man screwed everything up as usual.


Don’t worry though the good Lord always wins in the end and the beginning.

Duet 7:10

“For those who CHOOSE to hate him.”

Making a choice to hate god. Free will. You chose to hate God you go to hell. Simple really.

You have to consider the source who created the gods we all know, man. When you consider this source and his desire for control, you can understand why there must be a dire result for not "following" the control pressed upon you.

Absolutely.

If an all-powerful God allows anyone to go to hell then he is sending them there. Period.

Some people even say that God weeps when someone goes to hell. But that's absurd.

Why would God be weeping?

If the person deserves to go to hell there's nothing to weep about.

If they don't deserve to go to hell then something's drastically wrong with the system.

It's as simple as that.

The idea that a God would allow any decent person to go to hell just because they didn't appease the arrogant Christians is the most asburd thing I can imagine.

It's much more likely that the arrogant Christians would be the ones are their way to hell.

Even Jesus said that there will be many who claim to know him but he will not acknowledge them.

People think they can 'save' themselves just by claiming to be a born again Christian. But they don't have the power to do that. Who are they to tell Jesus who he will or will not 'save'?

They are seriously kidding themselves when they start judging.

In fact, Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. So if Jesus tells the truth, then the Christians are in some deep sh't.

Abra I agree wholeheartedly.

I bet God loves it when people listen to ac/dc

The way the world is now how everything is now...It’s not the way it was supposed to be. We live in this existence and experience it the way it is and we can’t really see that it was originally meant to be paradise.

We are in a battle every day. It’s a spiritual and physical battle. We have it in us to be our own kings and Queens and we only have to love and worship the creator of EVERYTHING to be that. The battle that rages everyday is going on because of the strife between God and Satan. God wants his children back and the Devil is corrupting his children every day.

God can not look upon sin or have it in his presence so when you choose to not follow Gods laws/rules to live by you turn your back on him.


God has rules just like you and me. Everyone has a boss except God…I’m more than ok with that.

Hell is a void with out Gods presence. God can not have you in his presence if you are full of Sin. So you go to a place where God chooses not to be. He isn’t putting you anywhere you didn’t decide to go.

Our ancestors not only had their god-factories, but they made devils as well. These devils were generally disgraced and fallen gods. Some had headed unsuccessful revolts; some had been caught sweetly reclining in the shadowy folds of some fleecy cloud, kissing the wife of the god of gods. These devils generally sympathized with man. There is in regard to them a most wonderful fact: In nearly all the theologies, mythologies and religions, the devils have been much more humane and merciful than the gods. No devil ever gave one of his generals an order to kill children and to rip open the bodies of pregnant women. Such barbarities were always ordered by the good gods. The pestilences were sent by the most merciful gods. The frightful famine, during which the dying child with pallid lips sucked the withered bosom of a dead mother, was sent by the loving gods. No devil was ever charged with such fiendish brutality.

One of these gods, according to the account, drowned an entire world with the exception of eight persons. The old, the young, the beautiful and the helpless were remorsely devoured by the shoreless sea. This, the most fearful tragedy that the imagination of ignorant priests ever conceived, was the act, not of a devil, but of a god, so-called, whom men ignorantly worship unto this day. What a stain such an act would leave upon the character of a devil! One of the prophets of one of these gods, having in his power a captured king, hewed him in pieces in the sight of all the people. Was ever any imp of any devil guilty of such savagery?

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html

Each nation has created a god, and the god has always resembled his creators. He hated and loved what they hated and loved, and he was invariably found on the side of those in power. Each god was intensely patriotic, and detested all nations but his own. All these gods demanded praise, flattery, and worship. Most of them were pleased with sacrifice, and the smell of innocent blood has ever been considered a divine perfume. All these gods have insisted upon having a vast number of priests, and the priests have always insisted upon being supported by the people, and the principal business of these priests has been to boast about their god, and to insist that he could easily vanquish all the other gods put together.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html