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Thu 03/27/14 04:42 PM




is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!


that depends on the answer u want


The Truth!!!slaphead laugh


You can't handle the truth- Jack Nicolson


yep because most people want to hear what they want to hear. my ex called it selective hearing. to her that only applied to menlaugh

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Thu 03/27/14 03:48 PM

Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.



ni�hil�ism
[nahy-uh-liz-uhm, nee-] Show IPA

noun
1.
total rejection of established laws and institutions.

2.
anarchy, terrorism, or other revolutionary activity.

3.
total and absolute destructiveness, especially toward the world at large and including oneself: the power-mad nihilism that marked Hitler's last years.

4.
Philosophy .
a.
an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth.

b.
nothingness or nonexistence.

5.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the principles of a Russian revolutionary group, active in the latter half of the 19th century, holding that existing social and political institutions must be destroyed in order to clear the way for a new state of society and employing extreme measures, including terrorism and assassination.

Pilate was put in a position to where he had no problem with Yahshua. He was not a threat.

John 18:37-38

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth ? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
KJV

Yahshua is Truth he did not come to change anything. His perfect life and being murdered without fighting the evil that was present as he was a Threat to the Religious Elite who would tell the People what Truth was.
Truth was not what the Scriptures say it was what they said. They added all kinds of laws to the scriptures.

The same thing is happening today. Ministers do not say study shew yourself approved of Yahweh. This is what Yahshua did.

Pilate did not want to get in the Jewish law. Their law and he saw Yahshua did no wrong. Asking him what is Truth imo he was saying why do they Hate you?

nihilism is distructive. and the Elite wanted Yahshua Destroyed because the people saw he was for real. He was not like them. Sure nihilism was their but it was the ones who wanted Power and its no different than today. Ministers want Power and Fame


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Thu 03/27/14 12:19 PM





honeybees? lol... in the 4.5 billion years the earth has been around, countless insects/animals have lived and died out, it's called evolution... adapt or die out, that's how it works...

you religious folk crack me up...laugh laugh


you are right they have been around forever. But science for profits have modified seeds also. 90% of the grain belt has modified seeds to control weeds. make the plant stronger. If u research science says their is no way they know of to have none GMO seeds. we have seen this on the news people do not want GMO foods but its like we are to late to solve the problem. Bees if they continue to die out at the rate they are people will be starving all over the world by 2020. this is what our scientists are saying will happen if we continue to lose 30% of our bee supply.

When people start starving what happens. The scriptures tell us starvation will happen. How important are bees to us? believe or not. But it is believed science has caused this.

the 4th Horseman.

Rev 6:7-8

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
KJV

We loose our bees this prophesy will come true before our eyes. starvation will cause people to do whatever they need to do to eat.

to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.



i agree, science did cause it, GMO's from Monsanto, specifically...
but that doesn't mean a god has something to do with it... nature repairs it self, may take a few million years, but it always has...


I am not saying Yahweh is causing it. Man is causing it. Yahweh says he knows the end from the beginning. Man is saying like so many we do not need Yahweh we are the ones who know. We are told from Yahweh not to mix seeds, why? we have been messing with seeds, pesticides all in this generation. He says this generation of people will see these things come to pass. and we are. we throw out the scriptures like the Tower of Babel who said they did not need Yahweh we are doing the same thing. a huge change has happened in this generation and we have been told what will happen. starvation for one which will cause killings. growing cold to your neighbor. a me me me society who uses money as power more than any time in the world. the same ones getting rich like Monsanto are the same ones who are killing us.

I bet u see everyday in medicine commercials advertising a great new drug then u see a commercial for a medicine that has hurt and killed people. just a few years ago these lawsuits now were the science discovery that will heal us now we find out they kill us. Yet no one faults science but so easy to say the bible is a man made book. yet these things are told By Daniel for one would come about and it would not be understood his visions until the end but we still refuse to believe.. Like pork . why do we say we come from apes but pork heart valves are used and accepted by our bodies. not apes.

Now science are growing pigs for organ transplants for humans. because they believe our bodies will accept pig lungs, kidneys even hearts. whats does that tell us about pigs?

Science has said the insides of a hog is very close to a humans. Yahweh says pork if u eat it will be an abomination to u. yet we call it the new white meat. Its canabalism plain and simple. we even call fat people pigs. In The 30's Dr. Royal Rife who was the Tesla of his time among Drs. and yet few have heard of him said he found Pork is a main cause of cancer. He even developed a way to cure cancer. had 18 people who had been given less than 18 months to live examined by 7 Drs. from John Hopkins university. He used frequencies for each persons blood types and found by turning a magnetic frequency generator to a specific frequency for that type of cancer the cancer cells exploded no side effects what so ever. out of the 18 16 were determined by these same 7 drs. to be cancer free the other 2 within the 3 months. 100% cure rate. In the 1930's every headline in the country read " Dr. Royal Rife Cures Cancer" what happened? The drug companies went to the FDA and said he did not get their approval for this testing. The FDA because of the pressure from these drug companies put out federal warrants for him and his assistant Dr. Kimbal. Dr. Rife fled to Mexico to continue his research. Dr. Kimbal went to court. The Federal judge through out all the evidence he had that they had done nothing wrong and sent him to prison for 5 years. They also out lawed this cure and put pressure on England and then Europe to outlaw these procedures even though 18 people were still alive and had no side effects. the only country I know of in the world that allows it is New Zealand. Science and Big Money gets what it wants. They are making us sick knowing that food prices go sky high and the poor starve it will not affect them at all. congress always fights for the rich and these companies.

this science we have all depends on what our govts. decide will be allowed. The rich influence them. Its all prophecy. To get rid of the Bible. even believers when death hits them blames Yahweh. Just what the powers of this world want. us to be their slaves or starve. Equal weights and judgments have left this world. For a few to rule this world. so much can be seen is happening from the scriptures but our young our being told do what u want. Hitler said give me a generation of youth and they will do whatever I say. We are just using his play book. we brought his scientists over here to continue only the fittests survive or the rich. throw out morals the Bible tells us what is good and what is bad and these seeds, our sicknesses and everything get worse every year. Yahweh is letting us learn how wrong the world is on its own because we reject his Knowledge for our own


i eat bacon all the time... great stuff!

yea, well... only thing i can say ti that is if your god is pissed and wants to kill everyone off, then there is not much i can do about it, is there?

kind of odd how your god is "letting" us learn on our own and "allowing" it to happen... would you do the same for your children?

would you spite them because they didn't "learn" what you wanted them to?

god sets a lot of stipulations on people, where as his enemy doesn't have any stipulations at all...



we are stubborn children. How many times do u wish as u were growing up u would of listened to your parents?

we get ourselves in deep when we refuse to listen.

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Thu 03/27/14 12:17 PM





honeybees? lol... in the 4.5 billion years the earth has been around, countless insects/animals have lived and died out, it's called evolution... adapt or die out, that's how it works...

you religious folk crack me up...laugh laugh


you are right they have been around forever. But science for profits have modified seeds also. 90% of the grain belt has modified seeds to control weeds. make the plant stronger. If u research science says their is no way they know of to have none GMO seeds. we have seen this on the news people do not want GMO foods but its like we are to late to solve the problem. Bees if they continue to die out at the rate they are people will be starving all over the world by 2020. this is what our scientists are saying will happen if we continue to lose 30% of our bee supply.

When people start starving what happens. The scriptures tell us starvation will happen. How important are bees to us? believe or not. But it is believed science has caused this.

the 4th Horseman.

Rev 6:7-8

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
KJV

We loose our bees this prophesy will come true before our eyes. starvation will cause people to do whatever they need to do to eat.

to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.



i agree, science did cause it, GMO's from Monsanto, specifically...
but that doesn't mean a god has something to do with it... nature repairs it self, may take a few million years, but it always has...


I am not saying Yahweh is causing it. Man is causing it. Yahweh says he knows the end from the beginning. Man is saying like so many we do not need Yahweh we are the ones who know. We are told from Yahweh not to mix seeds, why? we have been messing with seeds, pesticides all in this generation. He says this generation of people will see these things come to pass. and we are. we throw out the scriptures like the Tower of Babel who said they did not need Yahweh we are doing the same thing. a huge change has happened in this generation and we have been told what will happen. starvation for one which will cause killings. growing cold to your neighbor. a me me me society who uses money as power more than any time in the world. the same ones getting rich like Monsanto are the same ones who are killing us.

I bet u see everyday in medicine commercials advertising a great new drug then u see a commercial for a medicine that has hurt and killed people. just a few years ago these lawsuits now were the science discovery that will heal us now we find out they kill us. Yet no one faults science but so easy to say the bible is a man made book. yet these things are told By Daniel for one would come about and it would not be understood his visions until the end but we still refuse to believe.. Like pork . why do we say we come from apes but pork heart valves are used and accepted by our bodies. not apes.

Now science are growing pigs for organ transplants for humans. because they believe our bodies will accept pig lungs, kidneys even hearts. whats does that tell us about pigs?

Science has said the insides of a hog is very close to a humans. Yahweh says pork if u eat it will be an abomination to u. yet we call it the new white meat. Its canabalism plain and simple. we even call fat people pigs. In The 30's Dr. Royal Rife who was the Tesla of his time among Drs. and yet few have heard of him said he found Pork is a main cause of cancer. He even developed a way to cure cancer. had 18 people who had been given less than 18 months to live examined by 7 Drs. from John Hopkins university. He used frequencies for each persons blood types and found by turning a magnetic frequency generator to a specific frequency for that type of cancer the cancer cells exploded no side effects what so ever. out of the 18 16 were determined by these same 7 drs. to be cancer free the other 2 within the 3 months. 100% cure rate. In the 1930's every headline in the country read " Dr. Royal Rife Cures Cancer" what happened? The drug companies went to the FDA and said he did not get their approval for this testing. The FDA because of the pressure from these drug companies put out federal warrants for him and his assistant Dr. Kimbal. Dr. Rife fled to Mexico to continue his research. Dr. Kimbal went to court. The Federal judge through out all the evidence he had that they had done nothing wrong and sent him to prison for 5 years. They also out lawed this cure and put pressure on England and then Europe to outlaw these procedures even though 18 people were still alive and had no side effects. the only country I know of in the world that allows it is New Zealand. Science and Big Money gets what it wants. They are making us sick knowing that food prices go sky high and the poor starve it will not affect them at all. congress always fights for the rich and these companies.

this science we have all depends on what our govts. decide will be allowed. The rich influence them. Its all prophecy. To get rid of the Bible. even believers when death hits them blames Yahweh. Just what the powers of this world want. us to be their slaves or starve. Equal weights and judgments have left this world. For a few to rule this world. so much can be seen is happening from the scriptures but our young our being told do what u want. Hitler said give me a generation of youth and they will do whatever I say. We are just using his play book. we brought his scientists over here to continue only the fittests survive or the rich. throw out morals the Bible tells us what is good and what is bad and these seeds, our sicknesses and everything get worse every year. Yahweh is letting us learn how wrong the world is on its own because we reject his Knowledge for our own


i eat bacon all the time... great stuff!

yea, well... only thing i can say ti that is if your god is pissed and wants to kill everyone off, then there is not much i can do about it, is there?

kind of odd how your god is "letting" us learn on our own and "allowing" it to happen... would you do the same for your children?

would you spite them because they didn't "learn" what you wanted them to?

god sets a lot of stipulations on people, where as his enemy doesn't have any stipulations at all...


Can u make anything out of nothing? we are small children.

I take it u tell everything to your child and do not let him experience it on their own?

Good way to get Burn't as u grow and mom and dad is not watching your every move

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Thu 03/27/14 12:14 PM

.. more hoping and wishing I see...lol

we are a product of what the internet and tv news tells us. the truth is no concern. Hitlers plan was just the beginning. he did not need to go to war. our Govt's have learned this. bring in this killing in the back door and tell man he is alone to defend for himself. that the poor are lazy. it is a trap to train our minds to do as we are told. to not question science. yet science gets it wrong everyday. on purpose or believing they are the true elite. the Knowledge Bearers. u can not see because u refuse to study. u claim u know when they do not know. yet the rich know. they know what is happening. it's their corrupt minds who could care less about us and look for power.

to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Eph 2:2-3

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
KJV


Here is what we are seeing. U do not believe this is happening in our own country?

Eph 6:11-16

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers , against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
KJV

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Thu 03/27/14 11:56 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Thu 03/27/14 11:59 AM



honeybees? lol... in the 4.5 billion years the earth has been around, countless insects/animals have lived and died out, it's called evolution... adapt or die out, that's how it works...

you religious folk crack me up...laugh laugh


you are right they have been around forever. But science for profits have modified seeds also. 90% of the grain belt has modified seeds to control weeds. make the plant stronger. If u research science says their is no way they know of to have none GMO seeds. we have seen this on the news people do not want GMO foods but its like we are to late to solve the problem. Bees if they continue to die out at the rate they are people will be starving all over the world by 2020. this is what our scientists are saying will happen if we continue to lose 30% of our bee supply.

When people start starving what happens. The scriptures tell us starvation will happen. How important are bees to us? believe or not. But it is believed science has caused this.

the 4th Horseman.

Rev 6:7-8

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
KJV

We loose our bees this prophesy will come true before our eyes. starvation will cause people to do whatever they need to do to eat.

to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.



i agree, science did cause it, GMO's from Monsanto, specifically...
but that doesn't mean a god has something to do with it... nature repairs it self, may take a few million years, but it always has...


I am not saying Yahweh is causing it. Man is causing it. Yahweh says he knows the end from the beginning. Man is saying like so many we do not need Yahweh we are the ones who know. We are told from Yahweh not to mix seeds, why? we have been messing with seeds, pesticides all in this generation. He says this generation of people will see these things come to pass. and we are. we throw out the scriptures like the Tower of Babel who said they did not need Yahweh we are doing the same thing. a huge change has happened in this generation and we have been told what will happen. starvation for one which will cause killings. growing cold to your neighbor. a me me me society who uses money as power more than any time in the world. the same ones getting rich like Monsanto are the same ones who are killing us.

I bet u see everyday in medicine commercials advertising a great new drug then u see a commercial for a medicine that has hurt and killed people. just a few years ago these lawsuits now were the science discovery that will heal us now we find out they kill us. Yet no one faults science but so easy to say the bible is a man made book. yet these things are told By Daniel for one would come about and it would not be understood his visions until the end but we still refuse to believe.. Like pork . why do we say we come from apes but pork heart valves are used and accepted by our bodies. not apes.

Now science are growing pigs for organ transplants for humans. because they believe our bodies will accept pig lungs, kidneys even hearts. whats does that tell us about pigs?

Science has said the insides of a hog is very close to a humans. Yahweh says pork if u eat it will be an abomination to u. yet we call it the new white meat. Its canabalism plain and simple. we even call fat people pigs. In The 30's Dr. Royal Rife who was the Tesla of his time among Drs. and yet few have heard of him said he found Pork is a main cause of cancer. He even developed a way to cure cancer. had 18 people who had been given less than 3 months to live examined by 7 Drs. from John Hopkins university. He used frequencies for each persons blood types and found by turning a magnetic frequency generator to a specific frequency for that type of cancer the cancer cells exploded no side effects what so ever. out of the 18 16 were determined by these same 7 drs. to be cancer free the other 2 within the 3 months. 100% cure rate. In the 1930's every headline in the country read " Dr. Royal Rife Cures Cancer" what happened? The drug companies went to the FDA and said he did not get their approval for this testing. The FDA because of the pressure from these drug companies put out federal warrants for him and his assistant Dr. Kimbal. Dr. Rife fled to Mexico to continue his research. Dr. Kimbal went to court. The Federal judge through out all the evidence he had that they had done nothing wrong and sent him to prison for 5 years. They also out lawed this cure and put pressure on England and then Europe to outlaw these procedures even though 18 people were still alive and had no side effects. the only country I know of in the world that allows it is New Zealand. Science and Big Money gets what it wants. They are making us sick knowing that food prices go sky high and the poor starve it will not affect them at all. congress always fights for the rich and these companies.

this science we have all depends on what our govts. decide will be allowed. The rich influence them. Its all prophecy. To get rid of the Bible. even believers when death hits them blames Yahweh. Just what the powers of this world want. us to be their slaves or starve. Equal weights and judgments have left this world. For a few to rule this world. so much can be seen is happening from the scriptures but our young our being told do what u want. Hitler said give me a generation of youth and they will do whatever I say. We are just using his play book. we brought his scientists over here to continue only the fittests survive or the rich. throw out morals the Bible tells us what is good and what is bad and these seeds, our sicknesses and everything get worse every year. Yahweh is letting us learn how wrong the world is on its own because we reject his Knowledge for our own

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 03/27/14 11:08 AM

honeybees? lol... in the 4.5 billion years the earth has been around, countless insects/animals have lived and died out, it's called evolution... adapt or die out, that's how it works...

you religious folk crack me up...laugh laugh


you are right they have been around forever. But science for profits have modified seeds also. 90% of the grain belt has modified seeds to control weeds. make the plant stronger. If u research science says their is no way they know of to have none GMO seeds. we have seen this on the news people do not want GMO foods but its like we are to late to solve the problem. Bees if they continue to die out at the rate they are people will be starving all over the world by 2020. this is what our scientists are saying will happen if we continue to lose 30% of our bee supply.

When people start starving what happens. The scriptures tell us starvation will happen. How important are bees to us? believe or not. But it is believed science has caused this.

the 4th Horseman.

Rev 6:7-8

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
KJV

We loose our bees this prophesy will come true before our eyes. starvation will cause people to do whatever they need to do to eat.

to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

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Thu 03/27/14 10:35 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Thu 03/27/14 10:38 AM

Very interesting discussion. got me into thinking about the times we are in :)

As for the question of what the wine and oil represent in the third seal, i have a believe that the wine represents the gospel message and the oil represents the anointing.

I believe the tribulation is a way of God showing mankind his judgement after putting up with our ignorance and sinful nature, i believe in its happening, many people on earth might realize that truly there is God and the bible is true, as though a father is chastening his child into correction.

But i think the lesson also affects the heavenly and the beings in the underworld since the command of the first four seals being broken comes from Jesus himself

As you pointed out that the 3rd seal is connected to the beast system, i believe its true for they own most of the world(earthly)
already

what i ponder most is that if we look closely at the state of earth, arent the first 4 seal broken already or active in a sense ?


yes I believe they are. The 4th seal I believe is just beginning. Bees in America for the last 7 years we have lost 30% of them each year. They can not find them and science has no explanation why they are disappearing. Bees are very important for the world food supply

watch this doc. about Honey bees and our food supply. Bees dying off could be the 4th Horseman starting imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wO_6EagjvA

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Wed 03/26/14 10:56 AM

Great Thread Guys

Fighting the beast system wont be as easy, its deceptions are well calculated, i believe the final steps are being put in Place, remember from Daniel and Revelation, there has to be 10 kings controlling the whole world, we are heading there.

Our strength lies only in prayer to Jesus Christ,remember the beast who looks like a lamb (might appear honest and true, perhaps many people will support this "person") and he will bring in the mark and since many people will already believe in him, it will be easier for people to take it, remember he won't force it on anyone but rather make people view the mark as "acceptable"

am not very indepth with when the tribulation begins but i believe the first four seals and its horsemen are on earth.

Revelation 13.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,




I agree that does seem like where we are. The world wonders where this Beast system is. How can we tell what it is and where it is coming from?

Rev 18:1-3

After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying,"Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury."
NKJV


Today who would the world see this as? Who is making the world Drunk in her sins? They look up to her for all things. The world police. The Babylon that seems to have everything. Even the worlds money is based on her. yet the World loves her. She is a great trader. She preaches peace when their is no peace. Only in the Beasts mind and her people believe they are bringing Peace.

She comes to anyones aid she is a Gem among nations. A Daughter of a Great Kingdom who agrees with her at all times.

Babylon is here now. The world tries to come to her for a better life. Yet what is it this policeman is turning into nothing? What is it she says is old and a New World order with a thousand lights will Dream of its mercies?

Rev 6:5-6

When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine."
NKJV

Scales? What does scales represent? equal measurements. We see the Voice ( Yahshua) in the midst as this Horseman rides give instructions that says Harm will come at this time.

Their is equal weights and measurements and at the same time he says " do not Harm"

The Oil and the wine. What do these symbols mean? These symbols are not to be harmed. The voice has commanded it.

IMO the 3rd seal is basically over whom this Beast System being the Bright and Shining Star who has made the world drunk in her sins.

The 4th Seal. we see on the News warning it is coming. What are we being told is happening to this world?

Rev 6:7-8

When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see." 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
NKJV

Even Being the Pale Horse gives us many clues to what and who is coming

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Tue 03/25/14 07:20 PM

Clearly we are in the last days. I saw a television program which showed a picture of a palm and it said that this spring they would have readers to read the lines in your hand instead of using credit cards to make purchases which looks to me as if its leading up to the mark of the beast. How soon do you think the one world order will be in effect? And what will you do and where will you go for safety? Will you stay in the state or country that you are in or do you think it would be safer to move to a new country?


no need to try and hide. and the world order is already in effect. who can fight against the Beast?

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Sun 03/23/14 06:44 PM








How do the scriptures suite the purposes of the emperors? It's not like the scriptures say obey the government without question or giving them any specific power over any specific person(s).


you know why... control by fear... the same way your church controls you..


There is absolutely no control by fear, control by fear is impossible in this form of obedience. It's a choice to be obedient or not, and in the end we will be judged on how we lived. One has to believe first in this before it has any form of control or effect on them in any way possible.

And my church doesn't control me. If a church said to do this or that and or possibly behave this way or that way I would tell them no and just do as God has informed us how to be. Not saying I'm pure and obedient 100% of the time, I fail my God daily unfortunately. But nevertheless it's God I listen to, not some church or "organization".


really? is that so... where do you go if you don't follow what your preacher says god wants?


Through prayer and the bible, a book that contains the knowledge needed for the knowledge to please our Lord.

God only wants us to love everyone. Outside of that there is very little to no "instructions".


since you sidestepped the answer, i'll answer it for you... hell...
if god only wanted us to love everyone, the hell concept wouldn't be around...


Hell is for Satan and his following angels. Hell is not for man. Hell is the grave. Thus why hell will give up the souls therein for judgement.

Revelation 20:13
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Notice, the "sea" and "hell" gave up the dead. Doesn't say the sea and the ground or anything of that nature, says the sea and hell.

Hell is merely a temporary holding place. So again where is the lack of love?


hell is translated from the grave. hell is a pagan concept. the sea and the grave give up the dead. everyone who has died and were not in the 1st resserection

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Sun 03/23/14 06:26 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sun 03/23/14 06:28 PM


I am also not impressed by the horrible reputation of Saul as apposed to Paul, nor am I impressed by his alleged transformation. He went from persecuting believers to persecuting non believers. He was a murderer and a fanatic.
I second that!
He Hijacked that Jewish Sect and made a global Religion out of it!Strange that Paul is quoted more than Peter who after all was supposed to be The Rock,the head of Jesus' Community!


Paul was a Chosen Vessel. He had so much zeal. Paul never changed anything he was one who was so Physical in the Law he could not see the Spiritual. his blinding for 3 day ( a symbol of death and coming back to life) was taken to the desert and taught. After Judas hanged himself they chose Mathias as the New apostle yet we do not hear of him again. Paul was chosen to be a light to the Gentiles and peter was to the Jews. Pauls knowledge gave him great insight into the Spiritual meaning of the law. he was hard to be understood then as he is now. His life is also an example Yahshua chose for the Gentiles (US)

a really good example Paul gave us is he did not preach for money . He worked as a tent maker for his income. Preachers should learn this example

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Sun 03/23/14 01:22 PM

is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!


that depends on the answer u want

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Wed 03/19/14 11:09 AM

Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.


John 18:37

Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth . Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."
NKJV

He is from Yahweh and His words and deeds are truth. He is a King because he was appointed King for he is truth as he says.

John 14:6

6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth , and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
NKJV


The Truth is every word that proceeds out of the Mouth of Yahweh. Yahshua is Truth because he did not speak his words but the words of his father.




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Thu 03/13/14 02:59 PM

Just watch all the lawsuits on TV. These were all science theories that they said was safe for us. Take the mixing of seeds. The scriptures says do not mix them yet look at what Monsanto is doing with our seeds. This is Frankenstein science. just take a look a real look


PS.. Here is a place to start. Look into the disappearing bee population. For the last 7 years in the southeast at least we have lost 30% of our bees per year. if this continues your scientists say the world will be in real trouble with starvation by the year 2020. yea scientists will not listen. They are the Authority. Like Congressfrustrated



Here is what science has done for us to make us sick and its getting to late/

More Frankenstein science.....

https://news.yahoo.com/u-food-companies-going-39-non-gmo-39-163206343--sector.html;_ylt=AmQ3muF69aNEHX4YjiL00vbQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBsOTJoYjVyBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM2BHNlYwNzcg--


U.S. food companies find going 'non-GMO' no easy feat

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Reuters
By Carey Gillam
February 18, 2014 11:32 AM


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The General Mills logo is seen on a box of Cheerios cereal in Evanston, Illinois, June 26, 2012. REUTERS/Jim …

By Carey Gillam

(Reuters) - U.S. food companies are rushing to offer consumers thousands of products free of genetically modified ingredients but are finding the effort costly and cumbersome in a landscape dominated by the controversial biotech crops.

The hurdles are so high that the growing "GMO-free" trend could result in a price spike for consumers, industry experts say. Eighteen years after GMO crops were introduced to help farmers fight weeds and bugs, they are so pervasive in the supply chain that securing large and reliable supplies of non-GMO ingredients is nearly impossible in some cases.

Just ask General Mills .

As one of the world's largest makers of consumer food products, the Minneapolis-based company has hefty buying power in the marketplace for corn, soy, sugar, oats, and other commodities needed for its packaged food products.

But when the company announced last month that its 70-year-old "yellow box" Cheerios would be made free of genetically modified ingredients, the effort capped more than a year spent tracking down ingredients that have undergone no genetic modification. Cheerios is primarily made with oats, for which there are no GMO varieties. But even securing small amounts of non-GMO corn and sugar used to sweeten the cereal was a challenge, officials said.

General Mills said it spent millions of dollars installing new equipment for processing non-GMO ingredients and setting up distinct transportation and handling facilities to keep non-GMO supplies from mixing with biotech supplies.

General Mills is not raising prices for its non-GMO Cheerios right now. But the company sees labeling the cereal as free of ingredients that many consumers associate with health or environmental risks as helping gain market share.

The change came after outside pressure from activist groups who oppose biotech crops. But Tom Forsythe, General Mills' global communication executive who met with the critics about their concerns, said the company's decision was an independent one.

"We did it because we think consumers may embrace it," said Forsythe. "But it is a sizeable investment. And it wasn't as easy as people think. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to do the same with our other products."

NON-GMO SURGE

General Mills is only the latest of many food companies making the shift. Post Foods said last month that it was altering ingredient sourcing for its Grape-Nuts cereal. Companies making baby foods, baked goods, frozen dinners and pet food are among those offering non-GMO versions.

"A lot of food manufacturers are looking at switching over to non-GMO. The demand is out there," said Aaron Skyberg, director of SK Food International, a North Dakota-based bulk ingredient supplier to U.S. and foreign food companies. "But it is a huge learning curve for them."

There is no federal standard for non-GMO labeling, so many companies, like Post, are signing up for a third-party verification program known as the Non-GMO Project.

The Non-GMO Project, started by natural and organic food retailers in 2007 in Bellingham, Washington, grants manufacturers a license to use a seal signifying their products have been audited to assure that they contain no more than 0.9 percent GMO.

The number of such non-GMO "verified" products surged to 14,800 in 2013, up from 4,000 in 2011, and 1,000 more products are in the verification pipeline, according to the Non-GMO Project Executive Director Megan Westgate. Sales last year of verified products hit $5 billion, up from $1.7 billion in 2011, she said.

"We get about 80 new companies enrollment inquiries every week. People want non-GMO," Westgate said.

A key catalyst for the growth, Westgate said, was grocer Whole Foods Market . The eighth largest U.S. food and drug store said last year that food sold in its North American stores must contain labeling about GMO content by 2018.

Another push came when Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc , said last year that it was switching to non-GMO ingredients in its chain of 1,550 restaurants.

PRICE SPIKE AHEAD?

More than 90 percent of the corn and soybeans now grown in the United States are GMO strains. This means the pipelines for harvesting, storing, transporting, mixing and purchasing the commodities are awash in the biotech supplies.

To supply conventional crops, farmers must plant non-GMO seeds, prevent pollen or other contaminants from drifting in from neighboring fields, and store and transport the grain separately from GMO crops. The separation must be maintained all the way to the finished product.

Partly because of the pipeline headaches, non-GMOs typically come at premium prices. Non-GMO corn, a key ingredient in many packaged foods, is especially scarce because virtually all corn in the United States likely has at least some slight contamination, experts say.

"All the non-GMO seed we sell has some level of GMO in it," said Mac Ehrhardt, president of the Minnesota-based Albert Lea Seed company. "Corn is a big problem. It is really really difficult to produce seed corn that would meet the current non-GMO verified label."

Indeed, even as General Mills labels its Cheerios as "not made with genetically modified ingredients," it adds a disclaimer that "trace amounts" of genetically modified material "may be present." The company would not say how much GMO it allows in the corn and sugar for its non-GMO Cheerios.

The difficulty of supplying large quantities of non-GMO commodities is such an urgent problem that in December three dozen representatives of grain and food groups formed the "Non-GMO Working Group" to try to expand the non-GMO commodity supply chain.

"If you want to secure your supply of non-GMO corn or corn syrup, you really need to be contracting ... lock in your supply," said Russ Gaskin, a consultant to the working group.

The supply crunch spells a likely spike in prices for consumers, Gaskin said.

Chipotle officials have already said they are planning to pass along the higher costs they are seeing when switching from GMO soy oil to non-GMO sunflower and rice bran oil by midyear.

The market moves have caught the eye of some investors. One, San Francisco-based Equilibrium Capital Group, is looking at investment opportunities in grain storage, transportation and converting farmland to non-GMO crop production.

"There are significant infrastructure issues, but there is real demand," said Equilibrium principal Rob Hurlbut, a former food industry executive.

As the supply chain seeks its own solutions, many say the federal government must set a national standard to apply evenly across state lines and products. Companies like General Mills say a federal standard would level the playing field and provide consistent expectations for consumers.

"We need a national solution," said General Mills' Forsythe.

(Reporting By Carey Gillam in Kansas City; Additional reporting by Lisa Baertlein in Los Angeles; Editing by David Greising, Christine Stebbins and Jonathan Oatis)



GMO"S yea Bible Wrong we SMART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!frustrated

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Thu 03/13/14 02:39 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Thu 03/13/14 02:46 PM
Just watch all the lawsuits on TV. These were all science theories that they said was safe for us. Take the mixing of seeds. The scriptures says do not mix them yet look at what Monsanto is doing with our seeds. This is Frankenstein science. just take a look a real look


PS.. Here is a place to start. Look into the disappearing bee population. For the last 7 years in the southeast at least we have lost 30% of our bees per year. if this continues your scientists say the world will be in real trouble with starvation by the year 2020. yea scientists will not listen. They are the Authority. Like Congressfrustrated

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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach.


Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise


Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers


The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality.


What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others.

Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers




Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show


Please do enlighten us where we are told judging is to be done in the church. Now keep it in context as well, just because the word "judge" is used does not mean it's used in the same context of that which we speak of. In this particular discussion and or how it started anyways is judging others to be sinful or not, or if their sin is deadly, if they'll make it to heaven or not, and so forth.

Because the verses/instructions I provided state "judge not". Doesn't say only judge those in the church, ect.

Scripture on judging yourself -

1Corinthians

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

And where did we get into "judging"? Nobody said a specific person will or won't go to Heaven. No one's made a judgement that I have read in that context.


For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

Judging ourselves. does not say judge yourself.

Since you think within the church we should not judge.

Tell me if your preacher is having sex with his secretary and it is found out to be true. What do you do? Since we do not judge within the church shouldn't we just keep quite and let our ministers sin all they want while they tell you that adultery is a sin?



Tell me if your preacher is having sex with his secretary and it is found out to be true. What do you do? Since we do not judge within the church shouldn't we just keep quite and let our ministers sin all they want while they tell you that adultery is a sin?


Yes, it is a sin. And I would go to the preacher and discuss it with him in the same manner as this.

Luke 17:3
3 Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.


absolutely. you judge him in his sin by going to him out of love. then forgiveness comes and a change of heart. if you do not go to him then he will be judged for that sin by Yahweh. Judgment within the church is to bring about repentance and Yahweh forgives him then.

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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach.


Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise


Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers


The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality.


What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others.

Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers




Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show


Please do enlighten us where we are told judging is to be done in the church. Now keep it in context as well, just because the word "judge" is used does not mean it's used in the same context of that which we speak of. In this particular discussion and or how it started anyways is judging others to be sinful or not, or if their sin is deadly, if they'll make it to heaven or not, and so forth.

Because the verses/instructions I provided state "judge not". Doesn't say only judge those in the church, ect.

Scripture on judging yourself -

1Corinthians

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

And where did we get into "judging"? Nobody said a specific person will or won't go to Heaven. No one's made a judgement that I have read in that context.


Judging is for within the church.

1 Peter 4:17-18

17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
NKJV

Peter was telling them judgment is on the believer 1st in this day and age and judgment for the unbeliever Yahweh will do the judging by their works as Rev 19 says. They did not all of a sudden stop judging in the assembly when Yahshua died.

These verses Yahshua tells us how to judge within ourselves.

Matt 18:15-20

15 Dealing with a Sinning Brother


"Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

18 "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."
NKJV


3 steps of judgment and if u read on it speaks about forgiveness.

1 go to your brother 1 on 1

2. if he will not listen bring 2 or 3 more to speak to him about his sinning.

3 Let the church talk to him ..

4 if he will not listen to what he Promised Yahweh he would do u let him go. says let the devil take ahold of him so he will come to his senses.

apparently it is speaking of a rebellious brother. likes his sinning.

This is judgment between the brother and the assembly as a whole.

people who refuse the scriptures and actually hate them some say they are evil. they will have to answer to Yahweh. we do not judge their heart.. who can know it?



1 Peter 4:17-18


Is not talking about an instruction for us, it is talking chronologically informative for us.

Prophecy of the judgement, notice who gets judged first, the faithful followers of God.

Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


Matt 18:15-20


Is not talking about judging another, is talking about if one sins directly against you. To confront that person and talk about it.



apparently it is speaking of a rebellious brother. likes his sinning.

This is judgment between the brother and the assembly as a whole.


This is not a "judgement". How was he convicted? What was his punishment of the judgement.

Keeping words in context as well here please. We're talking about a judgement as in being charged for a crime. Not talking about a judgement as in an "opinion" or that you judge something to taste good. Not that form of judgement again a crime form of judgement.


this is whats wrong with religion. they just want it easy. no condemnation. Did Yahshua condemn the leaders? Is he not our example. Was Magnus not judged when he wanted the Holy Spirit for power? Math gives us instructions from Yahshua himself about a sinning brother. He is given 3 chances to repent and change before the church lets him go. why do you think it says that?

Matt 18:17
7 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
NKJV

The church the people are to treat him as a Heathen and no one liked the Tax collector then either:smile:

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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach.


Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise


Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers


The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality.


What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others.

Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers




Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show


Please do enlighten us where we are told judging is to be done in the church. Now keep it in context as well, just because the word "judge" is used does not mean it's used in the same context of that which we speak of. In this particular discussion and or how it started anyways is judging others to be sinful or not, or if their sin is deadly, if they'll make it to heaven or not, and so forth.

Because the verses/instructions I provided state "judge not". Doesn't say only judge those in the church, ect.

Scripture on judging yourself -

1Corinthians

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

And where did we get into "judging"? Nobody said a specific person will or won't go to Heaven. No one's made a judgement that I have read in that context.


For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

Judging ourselves. does not say judge yourself.

Since you think within the church we should not judge.

Tell me if your preacher is having sex with his secretary and it is found out to be true. What do you do? Since we do not judge within the church shouldn't we just keep quite and let our ministers sin all they want while they tell you that adultery is a sin?

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I find it easy to love the sinner and hate the sin. After all no one is guiltless while on earth.


In my opinion it's a sin to love the sinner just only because it's an EASY task for u,because by loving the sinner

1. we set a bad example for the society by loving people after they committed as sin.
2. Indirectly encourage the sinner to do more sin
3. Directly cause injustice to the victims before & AFTER too.


1. Only if you were committing the sin as well.
2. Again, only if you were participating with them in the sin in question.

Did Jesus not love the sinners? Does God not tell us to love everyone?


"god" also says don't judge others, that's the "gods" job, not anyone elses...


Yahshua will Judge. We are to judge also. Our judgements come in many forms. We judge in our courts everyday.We judge in our families parent to child.

The Judgement we have is a wake up call to the one who sins. Judgement is said to start in Israel. The believer who believes in the Scriptures. Mainly your own little group. We judge each other but 1st we tell them and why what they are doing is sinning.

Judgement within any group should always be personal. Then if they do not see thier sinning then take 1 or2 more believers to discuss this with them.

The bible says if after 2 times you take it to the assembly and shun them. Kick them out so they will either really think about thier sins or they will go on thier way and we hope they come back.

Yahweh is the Great Judge we are little ones within our own group who judge each other because it is always better to confess to your friends who love you and will forgive you than to say end up in the court house and have to answer your charges strictly by the law.

Judging each other in love and by the scriptures you need a rule book for every one to abide by.

Judging is required when you see sin and so is forgiveness.I would rather stop what i am doing by a friend judging me than him to not care and i end up in prison.

Love one another not judging a friend or family matter shows no love in the long run. they will just get worse. Notice Yahshua waited untill only him and the adulter were left when he spoken to her. this also goes along with gossip.

If yur friend see you doing something wrong would you prefer them to come to you are gossip about what you did?


what is wrong? just because i think something is wrong doesn't mean my friend does...

religious people make more judgements on what is right or wrong more than anyone, because they are blinded by the bible and a god. just because they think they know what gets people into heaven doesn't mean others have a different idea of what happens to them after death... people should worry about themselves, not others


So you're telling everyone to be selfish and not give a rat's B-hine bout others?


no we should about others but we are told how and when to care about others. If they do not want to believe you. Pray for them but leave them alone.

James 1:22-25

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
NKJV

actions speak louder than words. show love, help when u see help is needed. Be humble and remember who u really r

May I ask you to elaborate on why you specifically used that verse(s)?. Because those verses are not talking about judging. James 1:22-25 is basically saying practice what you preach.


Because it is also telling you to take a look at yourself. that we are human and sin. To Judge don't be a hypocrite any people are. Looking in the mirror and see if you have a right to judge. It speaks of the Perfect law of Liberty and that is judgement, Justise


Please point out the verse that points to "judging". Because to sum up this who verse(s) It's telling us to be doers of the word not just people that talk of the word. Nothing at all bout judging another to be sinful, evil, or otherwise.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers


The supplied James verses are telling us not to be hypocritical. The verses in themselves do not display anything bout homosexuality.


What do you see when he is talking about looking in the mirror and then when he goes away forgets what kind of man he is. It is a part of where judging comes from. If you see no fault in yourself then you are judging others not to be like you. Your judging yourself to be better than others.

Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show someone where they are going wrong. James verses refer to everyone. Judge not look at yourself but this is the outside world Yahweh will judge them. homosexuality is just one sin. The sin of not being Hospitabal was a grave sin and still is. Notice what Abraham and Lot treated strangers




Judging is to be done in a church with church members. It is love to show


Please do enlighten us where we are told judging is to be done in the church. Now keep it in context as well, just because the word "judge" is used does not mean it's used in the same context of that which we speak of. In this particular discussion and or how it started anyways is judging others to be sinful or not, or if their sin is deadly, if they'll make it to heaven or not, and so forth.

Because the verses/instructions I provided state "judge not". Doesn't say only judge those in the church, ect.

Scripture on judging yourself -

1Corinthians

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

And where did we get into "judging"? Nobody said a specific person will or won't go to Heaven. No one's made a judgement that I have read in that context.


Judging is for within the church.

1 Peter 4:17-18

17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
NKJV

Peter was telling them judgment is on the believer 1st in this day and age and judgment for the unbeliever Yahweh will do the judging by their works as Rev 19 says. They did not all of a sudden stop judging in the assembly when Yahshua died.

These verses Yahshua tells us how to judge within ourselves.

Matt 18:15-20

15 Dealing with a Sinning Brother


"Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.' 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

18 "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."
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3 steps of judgment and if u read on it speaks about forgiveness.

1 go to your brother 1 on 1

2. if he will not listen bring 2 or 3 more to speak to him about his sinning.

3 Let the church talk to him ..

4 if he will not listen to what he Promised Yahweh he would do u let him go. says let the devil take ahold of him so he will come to his senses.

apparently it is speaking of a rebellious brother. likes his sinning.

This is judgment between the brother and the assembly as a whole.

people who refuse the scriptures and actually hate them some say they are evil. they will have to answer to Yahweh. we do not judge their heart.. who can know it?