Topic: "What is truth?"
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Wed 03/19/14 04:14 AM
Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 03/19/14 05:50 AM

Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.


I do believe it was mockery because Jesus was claiming to be king. But here Pilate was crucifying Jesus.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 03/19/14 11:09 AM

Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.


John 18:37

Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth . Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."
NKJV

He is from Yahweh and His words and deeds are truth. He is a King because he was appointed King for he is truth as he says.

John 14:6

6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth , and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
NKJV


The Truth is every word that proceeds out of the Mouth of Yahweh. Yahshua is Truth because he did not speak his words but the words of his father.




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Thu 03/20/14 07:14 AM
"Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question:
'What is truth?' (((John 18:38)))
There are traces of nihilism even way back then."



Red6mist, yours is an interesting analogy.
I have to assume that you are familiar with nihilism.
Nihilism is chaotic and destructive, casting doubt on all things morally good/ God-ordained.


Here are a few basic synonyms & antonyms of that philosophy
for the sake of the readers of your thread.

Synonyms of nihilism include:

abnegation, agnosticism, anarchy, atheism, denial, disbelief,
disorder, lawlessness, mob rule, nonbelief, rejection,
renunciation, repudiation, skepticism, terrorism.



While antonyms include:

belief, faith, obedience, optimism.



As pertaining to mankind, nihilism was introduced in and has been evident since the Garden of Eden.
When the wicked one tempted Adam and Eve to doubt Yahweh.

In John 3:38, Pilate was attempting to confuse The Son of God to
justify himself for the future judgment he was to allow to be passed upon Him.



Interesting thread. flowerforyou






SGuard1's photo
Sun 03/23/14 10:16 AM
Truth is evident in creation and in you as a creation through Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is the King of Kings, that meaning he has rulership in all political and spiritual worlds... but how many of our leaders now or even back then would want to accept that ? Look at our world today doesnt it feel as though we are living in days of the law ? Yet we should have adapted, mercy and forgiveness since 2000yrs ago...

I must agree interesting thread :)

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:06 AM
is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 03/23/14 01:22 PM

is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!


that depends on the answer u want

SGuard1's photo
Thu 03/27/14 04:39 AM
well lets be frank, looks like people will keep denying the truth, for if they crucified him who came to save the whole earth, who are we that they should hear it again ...

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Thu 03/27/14 04:43 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 03/27/14 04:44 AM


is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!


that depends on the answer u want


The Truth!!!slaphead laugh

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 03/27/14 03:48 PM

Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.



ni�hil�ism
[nahy-uh-liz-uhm, nee-] Show IPA

noun
1.
total rejection of established laws and institutions.

2.
anarchy, terrorism, or other revolutionary activity.

3.
total and absolute destructiveness, especially toward the world at large and including oneself: the power-mad nihilism that marked Hitler's last years.

4.
Philosophy .
a.
an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth.

b.
nothingness or nonexistence.

5.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the principles of a Russian revolutionary group, active in the latter half of the 19th century, holding that existing social and political institutions must be destroyed in order to clear the way for a new state of society and employing extreme measures, including terrorism and assassination.

Pilate was put in a position to where he had no problem with Yahshua. He was not a threat.

John 18:37-38

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth ? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
KJV

Yahshua is Truth he did not come to change anything. His perfect life and being murdered without fighting the evil that was present as he was a Threat to the Religious Elite who would tell the People what Truth was.
Truth was not what the Scriptures say it was what they said. They added all kinds of laws to the scriptures.

The same thing is happening today. Ministers do not say study shew yourself approved of Yahweh. This is what Yahshua did.

Pilate did not want to get in the Jewish law. Their law and he saw Yahshua did no wrong. Asking him what is Truth imo he was saying why do they Hate you?

nihilism is distructive. and the Elite wanted Yahshua Destroyed because the people saw he was for real. He was not like them. Sure nihilism was their but it was the ones who wanted Power and its no different than today. Ministers want Power and Fame


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Thu 03/27/14 03:58 PM

well lets be frank, looks like people will keep denying the truth, for if they crucified him who came to save the whole earth, who are we that they should hear it again ...

truth is a perspective... not everyone's truth is the same... thats why so many people are killed over religious truths...

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Thu 03/27/14 04:04 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 03/27/14 04:05 PM
[Consider the catch phrase:] It may be true for you, but it's not true for me. What is the meaning of the concept truth? Truth is the recognition of reality. (This is known as the correspondence theory of truth.) The same thing cannot be true and untrue at the same time and in the same respect. That catch phrase, therefore, means: a. that the Law of Identity is invalid; b. that there is no objectively perceivable reality, only some indeterminate flux which is nothing in particular, i.e., that there is no reality (in which case, there can be no such thing as truth); or c. that the two debaters perceive two different universes (in which case, no debate is possible). (The purpose of the catch phrase is the destruction of objectivity.)

Philosophy: Who Needs It

Philosophical Detection,

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/truth.html

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Thu 03/27/14 04:29 PM



is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!


that depends on the answer u want


The Truth!!!slaphead laugh


You can't handle the truth- Jack Nicolson

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 03/27/14 04:42 PM




is anyone going to answer the Question?
Doubt it!


that depends on the answer u want


The Truth!!!slaphead laugh


You can't handle the truth- Jack Nicolson


yep because most people want to hear what they want to hear. my ex called it selective hearing. to her that only applied to menlaugh

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Thu 04/03/14 12:03 AM


well lets be frank, looks like people will keep denying the truth, for if they crucified him who came to save the whole earth, who are we that they should hear it again ...

truth is a perspective... not everyone's truth is the same... thats why so many people are killed over religious truths...


So what you say is 'Truth'?

regularfeller's photo
Fri 04/04/14 09:14 PM

Why did the Roman soldier (Pilate I think) ask Jesus the question: "What is truth?" There are traces of nihilism even way back then.


i believe the inference is that this character was scoffing at the word truth in a fashion similar to a millionaire saying, "what's a few bucks". not so much a statement of nihilism as perspective. truth (like the value of money) is not universal.