Barbie...seems a bit hippocritical to call this a Holy War...
can you point out a bible reference that says we should
bomb babies while they sleep ..in the name of god...
or that we nuke another country...in the name of god...

maybe your god is the image of a large owl?...I doubt that
a real christian that values life would lend support to the
slaughter of the innocent...

as far as slapping a democrat...At one time I was a democratic
officer in Minn....until I realized that there is no difference between
the parties....I could just as well be saying the same about the GOP..
no difference to me...I'm independent....

Nerve gas in my hometown?...ridiculous fear mongering that doesnt
work on this former marine...sorry...

bring the troops home now...

ahhhhhh...I was being sarcastic.....

Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
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I have a candidate....

For clarification:

Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

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What I admire about Ron Paul is his consistency....he measures all legislative activity against the constitution...if it is in violation of the constitution he says no...

The Democrats who enable Bush
By HELEN THOMAS
HEARST NEWSPAPERS

WASHINGTON -- President Bush has no better friends than the spineless Democratic congressional leadership and the party's leading presidential candidates when it comes to his failing Iraq policy.

Those Democrats seem to have forgotten that the American people want U.S. troops out of Iraq, especially since Bush still cannot give a credible reason for attacking Iraq after nearly five years of war.

Last week at a debate in Hanover, N.H., the leading Democratic presidential candidates sang from the same songbook: Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York, and Barack Obama of Illinois and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards refused to promise to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq by 2013, at the end of the first term of their hypothetical presidencies. Can you believe it?

When the question was put to Clinton, she reverted to her usual cautious equivocation, saying: "It is very difficult to know what we're going to be inheriting."

Obama dodged, too: "I think it would be irresponsible" to say what he would do as president.

Edwards, on whom hopes were riding to show some independence, replied to the question: "I cannot make that commitment."

They have left the voters little choice with those answers.

Some supporters were outraged at the obfuscation by the Democratic front-runners.

On the other hand, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., are more definitive in their calls for quick troop withdrawals.

But Biden wants to break up Iraq into three provinces along religious and ethnic lines. In other words, Balkanize Iraq.

To have major Democratic backing to stay the course in Iraq added up to good news for Bush.

Now comes a surprising Clinton fan.

President Bush told Bill Sammon -- Washington Examiner correspondent and author of a new book titled "The Evangelical President" -- that Clinton will beat Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination because she is a "formidable candidate" and better known.

Sammon says Bush revealed that he has been sending messages to Clinton to urge her to "maintain some political wiggle room in your campaign rhetoric about Iraq."

The author said Bush contends that whoever inherits the White House will be faced with a potential vacuum in Iraq and "will begin to understand the need to continue to support the young democracy."

Bush ought to know about campaign rhetoric. Remember how he ridiculed "nation building" in the 2000 presidential campaign? Now he claims he is trying to spread democracy throughout the Middle East.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is another Democratic leader who has empowered Bush's war.

Pelosi removed a provision from the most recent war-funding bill that would have required Bush to seek the permission of Congress before launching any attack on Iran. Her spokesman gave the lame excuse that she didn't like the wording of the provision. More likely, she bowed to political pressure.

Is it any wonder the Democrats are faring lower than the president in a Washington Post ABC approval poll? Bush came in at 33 percent and Congress at 29 percent.

Members of Congress seem to have forgotten their constitutional prerogative to declare war; World War II was the last time Congress formally declared war.

Presidents have found other ways to make end runs around the law, mainly by obtaining congressional authorization "to do whatever is necessary" in a crisis involving use of the military. That's the way we got into the Vietnam and Iraq wars.

So what are the leading Democratic White House hopefuls offering? It seems nothing but more war. So where do the voters go who are sick of the Iraqi debacle?

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So what is the underlying message of this?....Maybe that there is no difference between the 2 parties....if you think that a vote for a democrat will get us out of the Iraq mess you are being played...big time...
Ron Paul makes no bones about it...he would get out immediately....Out of Iraq as well as all the other places we have troops...

I find the admission from Bush that he has been sending messages to Clinton a bit alarming...but not surprizing since the Bush's & Clintons have been arm in arm for years now..

hmmm..that secret sauce on the big macs...not so secret anymore eh?

Look at Ron Pauls record.....it speaks for itself


Tsunami...In Bush's pockets?....really doubt that

sorry adj4u...haha....keep taking herbs...and I dont mean the
kind you smoke...

youre right rambill...there is a growing list of successes...but there are some
that end up like the Browns...the issue is pretty clear however..need to have
a game plan...and the resources..

youre right rambill...there is a growing list of successes...but there are some
that end up like the Browns...the issue is pretty clear however..need to have
a game plan...and the resources..

we've already discussed all that fanta...you dont grasp the concept so have your little laugh at the expense of the Browns.....whatever man....

sorry...too busy sobbing over Brittany losing custody of her kids...
the world is going to hell....

S'pose it would help to see the policy that the security people were operating
under...like most over blown agencies there was probably an overlapping of
policies...their own company security operations & homeland security...another example
of a bloated government agency that does not communicate.....her responsibility
to "behave" is not the question...my question is: where did the authority for their
response come from...
and was it a policy...or something made up?..


and for anyone devoid of compassion....keep that in mind when you are elderly riddled
with altzheimers and strapped to a bed in 4 pt restraints and left for 8 - 12 hours at
a time...in a world without compassion that is the future for many...

I'm psychic...

the money we'll save will be needed to bomb the hell out of Iran...its all about priorities...our's is war...

thesaurus definition: holocaust - an act of mass destruction and loss of life

many holocausts...here's a few

Stalin...USSR...approx 50 million people
Germany...approx 6 million jews...(and assorted gypsys, undesirables)
Khmer Rouge...cambodia ...2- 3 million...
Darfur...estimated 400,000
Iraq..by US ...approx 600,000 since 2003
China...during communist century..approx 30 million
Rwanda...1994 alone 800,000

actually I have projectile vomit over the media....never believe a word they say

we agree philosopher...

I worked at a state hospital for 12 years...saw many many mental disorders
in the clients there....very humbling work...and if you didnt have compassion
you would not last in that job...

leaving her alone has no defense...

ron paul

what is apparent in most of the responses to this thread is the general lack of compassion....
oh yeah...alcoholic..so she deserves what she gets...lets label them & forget them...