Infiltrated !

dang girl(dragooon) I read it in the first post that you put up, you didnt need to bring it in to this one as well.

redundancy department of redundancy.... doesnt mean i will read anything else into it.

so he's in the navy? got it.... yeah commanders like to wipe.
boat tours are different than tours in theatre, they havent changed much about them since wwII, 9 months or something like that, but they do port in to habors around thir areas of responsibility, and get shore leave, its not like flying home, ut for most it works... my nephew is on a boat anchored out of japan, but they put in to port all over.

you know when i wrote this i forgot i wasnt talking to dragonitch, sorry bout that , but it is a double posting of the same copy and paste job- easy to see why i forgot.

a lot of it does hold true tho, you might be the hippie chick i was refering to.

I'll send you a copy of my LES, 75 days, 30 use or lose, 18 already lost.
I am talking about the army here, which is pretty much the leader in the way things work at the dept of defense.
the unit I am with is a combat unit, not support, we train all year round when we're not in a combat zone. the support units have it easier with regards to leave than most others. the army is a very 9 to 5 job, except the hours arent 9 to 5, its more like 5 to 9 most times, and never weekends unless there is training going on or you happened to be the unlucky one that has weekend duty.
I dont know what your ex or your kids dad does or who he works for, but sounds like something isnt right there.
as for me am in the 101st airborne division.

I agree with Adj... I would pull all my products out of their markets and not supply them with any more technologies.

They want, they want, they want.

when they find themselves out paced by others who are paying for the technology then they will back off and shut up.

I never did understand the anti trust thing here either, hell it isnt just bill gates doing software programs, its steve jobs at apple and other companies too. but thats what you get for being successful in this country, cant have anyone shine.

then the government steps in to say " hey look at us, we're still relevant."

you think?

the ones that were in vegas were partying it up and gambling at the casinos, i think many common folk do that as well, i know i have.

hired goons, yeah maybe. but most of them are employeed by US companies that hire out body guards.

and have to say something? what like they were here in an effort to oversee the operation to bring the towers down? come on man...

much like the company or corporation you work for, if you left tomorrow, they would miss you sure, for about a day when they filled your vacancy. the military is no different than a lot of other things in the country, biggest difference is that they do provide support for families if they want it. they do give time off, mandatory 30 days a year(not including the holidays and weekends- and of course thats back in the states, when your deployed, and in the army, it is 25 days out of a combat zone) and your male friend going over for five ties, must not have been in the army where 1 year tours are mandatory, but in some other branch where tours arent even close to that long.

I hear all the time from marines and navy and air force that there would be no way they could do a year or more like the army does, in 6 months they are back home with their friends and family and wont deploy again for at least another 6, the airforce gets 15 months between their deployments of 4 to 6 months. guess the army is just more disposable.

lets not forget the very most important part of this whole conversation,,,,,,, every man and woman wearing a uniform are doing so by their own free will, no one held a gun to their head and said enlist now or die. take no pity on them, we dont want it anyway.

the problem, and not picking a fight but trying to get some knowledge and understanding of the dynamics, is that...

as much as people want for things to be equal everywhere and on all fronts of any given issue, they simply are not. different ideals and morals in parts of the world are so vastly different so as not to promote cooperation.

things that westerners hold dear and sacrid are sometimes the very things that lets just say the muslim world revolts against. there can not be or should there be an expectation that the will agree to some standard of ours and us to them. if we adapt to them is there any guarentee that they will do the same? NO.
Pretty soon the only ones doing any movement towards the middle is us, the more we move the more they want us to move.

we hold ourselves to a higher standard and because of that we are the envy(most of the time) of the world. Higher standards of life, higher standards in equality, higher standards in a lot of areas, including freedoms.

Race relations in this country are the best in the world bar none, no matter what you believe, we have to be, there are so many different types of peope here with so many ethnic backgrounds that you can longer say he is pure anglo or pure this or that. And it gets better every single day. in stark contrast to the ethnic cleansing going on in multiple parts of the world, or the contant jew arab squabbles, or arab turk squabble. or now more recent the arab west squabble (past few decades, if you want to call that recent in relative history terms) the only speaking any racist comments is SMO.

we are not perfect that i will readily admit, but damn we are the closest thing on the planet to it. we're inclusive believe it or not, there are no travel advisories put out for any body traveling within our country, muslim, jew, black, latino, or otherwise.

yes we kill murders, we dont discriminate based on age. is that extreme, yeah sure. are we like other countries and chop off hands for theivery, or shot them in the head for drunk driving, stone a woman to death for an extra marrital affair, or for writting a book or for drawing a cartoon, do we lock them in a hole with only another hole to pee in, no we give them cable tv and three meals a day.

4.9 % as of january 08

5.4% in nov 2004 when george was reelected

3.9 % in may of 2000 when george was elected

5.3% in 1996 when they reelect slick willy back into ofice

7.3% in 1992 when slick was elected


so what was the reason again?

your postings are of isolated issues that you morph into "its happening everwhere". they are full of peoples opinions that you scew into making believe they are fact.

if you have issues with someone pointing that out then maybe you should talk to, not read, real soldiers who have done the things that you say are illegal and immoral. the issues I have are not mental issues unless getting aggrevated at liars is a mental one.

how about you post something with which you are the subject matter expert on, because lady I know more about this particular topic than you do,,, thats not boasting, it is FACT.

personal insults? what because i disagree with the crazy propaganda that spews forth from you copy and paste finger tips. where is the everyone is invited to the democrat party inclussiveness that I hear so much about, all veiws excepted...NOT

Well lets see here for a second,,, the saudis were flown out of the country because of the backlashed the government felt was surely going to happen. they didnt want another japanese incident like right after pearl harbor.. a fact supported by your own posting here saying they "escaped"

funny how you mention johnny's plane ride but not the lavishness of the edwards or gore or pelosi or obama or clinton. whom have all done similar things and are still doing similar things..

would love to know all the dirt on all the yayhoo's but we dont and are likely to never know. like fienstien and pelosi investigations into defrauding the government and supplying their contractor husbands with huge multi million dollar contracts without going through the normal vetting processes. but thats another article all together.

this is the first sensible comment I have seen from you, the one about the real world, not the having kids sexually oppressed.

since this is a duplicate thread let me copy and paste here what I just wrote to Dragonitch..


Wed 02/27/08 03:26 PM
you mean we're at the breaking point? I didnt get the memo.....

The articles that you post serve a purpose for someone I guess, but Im not real sure who that is.

Funny thing about the mental health professionals in the army, it is really simple to fake PTSD to the point of absurd. The things that mental health people LET pass thru their doors as bonafide would amaze and shock you to the point where you would find another long article to copy and paste on here entitled "soldiers fraud".

Did you know, of you course you dont, that all a male soldiers has to do or say to mental health to get out of the army is..... I cant get it up anymore. They dont need to prove it, just say it,,,, it's the new Im gay stratedgy used by those who joined for college money, since the Im gay thing doesnt work anymore.

Being a combat medic, I am the first person one of these soldiers, sick or faking, has to see.... I have personally taken a soldier to a suicide watch ward at a mental facility and stayed with him all day and nite until the real docs made me leave.

I have no doubt that long deployments hurt. they hurt marraiges (when the wife or husband back home decides to turn into a sl-t) it hurts moral in the middle of a deploymet to hear that they just tacted on 3 more months, especially knowing that the wimpy air force only does 4 months and sometimes extends to 6, that the gay navy does 6 and sometimes extends to 8, and the wanna be killer marines only do 6..... it isnt the fact that we are deployed that gets us down, its the fact that we are the only ones seriously doing the heavy lifting and pulling more than our share.

Beware of articles written with an agenda, they are full of distortions and out right lies. Beware of an article written by someone who has only read other articles about some place he or she hasnt been. it would be akin to me telling you how child birth or abortion feels like because i read an article about it one time written by a nun who had never experienced either.

your thick headed, and for some that might be attractive, but the issues on which the thickness prevails makes you seem like you have no honest clue about what you are doing or saying, almost as a reach out and cry for help...... do you need to see our mental health providers or are you just faking it?

seriously, what do you think we are possibly doing to this country that would even compare it to the days after world war II when a hell of a lot more men died, and even more had mental issues (that oh by the way most were able to handle- without the aid of medicine and people like yourself)

Get over yourself already, you aint trying to save or help anyone, all you are attemptig to do is.... what exactly? bash on something that a lot of people are bashing on too? Are you this generations new make love not war hippie freak- give it a rest lady.

you mean we're at the breaking point? I didnt get the memo.....

The articles that you post serve a purpose for someone I guess, but Im not real sure who that is.

Funny thing about the mental health professionals in the army, it is really simple to fake PTSD to the point of absurd. The things that mental health people LET pass thru their doors as bonafide would amaze and shock you to the point where you would find another long article to copy and paste on here entitled "soldiers fraud".

Did you know, of you course you dont, that all a male soldiers has to do or say to mental health to get out of the army is..... I cant get it up anymore. They dont need to prove it, just say it,,,, it's the new Im gay stratedgy used by those who joined for college money, since the Im gay thing doesnt work anymore.

Being a combat medic, I am the first person one of these soldiers, sick or faking, has to see.... I have personally taken a soldier to a suicide watch ward at a mental facility and stayed with him all day and nite until the real docs made me leave.

I have no doubt that long deployments hurt. they hurt marraiges (when the wife or husband back home decides to turn into a sl-t) it hurts moral in the middle of a deploymet to hear that they just tacted on 3 more months, especially knowing that the wimpy air force only does 4 months and sometimes extends to 6, that the gay navy does 6 and sometimes extends to 8, and the wanna be killer marines only do 6..... it isnt the fact that we are deployed that gets us down, its the fact that we are the only ones seriously doing the heavy lifting and pulling more than our share.

Beware of articles written with an agenda, they are full of distortions and out right lies. Beware of an article written by someone who has only read other articles about some place he or she hasnt been. it would be akin to me telling you how child birth or abortion feels like because i read an article about it one time written by a nun who had never experienced either.

your thick headed, and for some that might be attractive, but the issues on which the thickness prevails makes you seem like you have no honest clue about what you are doing or saying, almost as a reach out and cry for help...... do you need to see our mental health providers or are you just faking it?

flippin well done man.


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thats the cutest joke ive heard in a long time. thanx for the laugh.

Shot? what shot? Im a medic in the army, we give shots, i dont recall there being a shot batch that had been believed to be jacking up people. No links anyways that I have heard about, and believe me, we would have been discussing it at length. Of course the word discussing it can be substituted with some other verb.

Great posting, obviously I am not a democrat (disclaimer) and I approved this reply....

wow, from the mouths of their own the house of cards have fallen.

And poor edwards left out dancing with himself in the rain, the only canidate that could have even challenged for the whitehouse, seriously thank you new york crime syndicate for returning the whitehouse to us without us even having to grease your pockets, of course now there should be coming soon to a news channel near you, how the republicans stole the new york election. hahahahaha and they say democracy isnt dead.

Rainy down under, thats awsome- right?


anyway, its cold, cold, cold, and white.. dont know what that amounts to in temperature,,,,, lets call it two pair of thermals and a heavy coat.

I think that if anyone is suggesting that there was inpropriety going on that the safe money is on the clinton camp,,,, this is how they operate, and it has been done time and time again over the years, kneecapping anyone who stands up against them.... and to think that some crazy people were going to try to elect her as the next bill,,, wow, dodging bullets arent we.

Politically speaking, a senator has the juice to inquire about that sort of thing to the irs. not saying she's guilty but it wouldnt surprise me any.

I personally dont think that the church should be investigated based on the fact that a man, one man, gave a speech, it borders on infringement of free speach- doesnt it..... i mean i cant stand the guy but his is a voice that like any other deserves to be heard.

A side note; how about investigating all politicians by the IRS, crooked S O Bs.... ladies included. oooops women included