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amusing positions
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Amusing positions: We believe in an ancient myth. We should teach it to your children in our schools. We believe in an ancient myth. We should denounce science and believe in the myth instead. We believe in an ancient myth. We should reject all those who don't believe it and call them rebels. We believe in an ancient myth. We should put it into law and not let people love each other based on gender. We believe in an ancient myth. We should label anyone who gives a reason for not believing it to be a negative person. We believe in an ancient myth. We should denounce everyone who doesn't believe it and call them 'non-believes' and treat them as though there is something wrong with them and give them no respect. We believe in an ancient myth. We own it. You have no right to speak about it in a negative way. It has nothing to do with you except that if you don't believe it you will be labeled as rejecting God and being a bad person. We believe in an ancient myth. It has nothing to do with you. You should step aside and let us put it into law. We can proselytize our ancient myth and we will call that 'positive'. If you counter the proselytizing efforts by giving legitimate reasons why you don't believe it, we will call that 'negativity' There will be no more freedom of speech. There will be no more honest opinions. Either agree with us, or shut up. Don't say why you don't believe it. It's not permitted to say why you don't believe it. That's considered negativity. Just sit back and allow us to assimilate others without any resistance from reason. The Dark Ages shall prevail over freedom of speech and honest opinions. We will tolerate no more observations from people who don't believe in our myth. We sell it, if you aren't buying just move along so we can sell it to the next person in line. Don't say why you aren't buying. That's not permitted. That's considered to be negative. We can and will control freedom of speech by claiming that your opinions are negative if they don't agree with ours! You are not permitted to say why you don't believe "our" myth. The myth doesn't belong to you and it has nothing to do with you. You have no right to give your opinions of why you don't believe "our" myth! You're a bad, bad, negative person. No go away! TLW wrote:
As far as I'm concern there is not much of a difference between a rebel and a fool which is the most amusing thing ever. So if someone doesn't believe in a myth they are a rebel and a fool? Smiless wrote:
In the long run sometimes disobedience and being a rebel for a good cause is a great way to ensure some of our freedoms. Our forefathers were no different in times of the Revolutionary War or the War of Independence. I would never call these fine men fools for being a rebel for a good cause. I am thankful that they existed to help those understand the value of human life. The United States of America was founded by rebels. Were they fools? There has to be a way to speak out against anything that a person believes to be determental to humanity, even if the object of negativity happens to be a very popular religion. Many people romanticize the religion, and they don't like to see it questioned. However, there are many things about the religion that are not very romantic at all. Especially when taken in it's full context of being a Mediterranean religion. Just look at the hostilities that are being caused by the clash between Christianity, Judaism and Islam. That is a very negative affect on humanity. People are being killed. Innocent women and children are being hurt and killed in the crossfire. Speaking to the issue of whether or not the religion has merit, and asking people to consider why they continue to support it is a very postive issue. Sure, it's being "rebellious" against the religion. But is it being rebellious against humanity? Where do we lay down the standards of 'rebellion'? Anytime anyone is reblling there must be something they are rebelling against. There are always two sides to the coin. I stand for truth, and humanity. I see these ancient religions as being deterimental to both truth, and humanity. I stand up for what I believe to be the greater cause. I try to show people why these religions cannot possibly be true. And I do hold that position. It's not meant to be disrepectful. Just as the religous people see no 'disrespect' toward others when they want to teach creationism in public schools who tell people who they should or should not love. It's a two-way street Miguel. The religion is trying to tell people who they must live their lives. For people to tell there religion why they don't believe it has merit is fare game in any open society that has free speech. To repress that free speech in the claim that it is 'negative' is to return to the Dark Ages where unwelcome views are silenced in favor of proselytizing beliefs that must not be questioned! To me, that does not respresent anything but religious oppression. you are so circular. when I think there is no other way to put the same old argument in different ways you just amaze me when you use different words to say exactly the same thing over and over again. You should have been a lawyer. |
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Topic:
amusing positions
Edited by
TheLonelyWalker
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Wed 08/27/08 06:19 AM
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So it seems to be that God is some sort of slave master. (amusing statement, indeed).
It seems that some say they have freed themselves of some sort of imaginary slavery that has been around since the world is world. (amusing statement, as well). It seems that SOME OF (check the caps) those who have freed themselves are in some sort of mission to free the rest of us. (even more amusing). It seems that there is some kind of authority which is quite hard to understand. well what is a world without some sort of authority to give order to things. Let's say for instance: there is a sign in the road which says that the speed limit is 45 mph, but i decide to be rebellious [disregard to authority under normal conditions (not extremes as some like to use as examples)], and drive at speed of 60 mph. A cop is around and I get a ticket for speeding. There is an authority which is sign that says that I HAVE TO DRIVE AT 45 MPH, and I just don't do it, I feel like a free rebel. A free rebel who has to pay a ticket, and get points in the driver's license, and pay more in car insurance. As far as I'm concern there is not much of a difference between a rebel and a fool which is the most amusing thing ever. TLW |
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Topic:
The Dangers of Obedience
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It is time to be your own authority. You know what is right and what is not right. Your conscience is your guide. Ultimately, you will pay for your acts and it makes no difference whose orders you were following. JB Me being my own authority. Nah!!! too much arrogance. I know what is right and what is not because I'm image and likeness of my Heavenly Daddy, thus I can distinguish between good and evil. Yes, I will pay for my own acts, due to divine justice. |
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The Dangers of Obedience
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How does one obey a God that they can't even define or see or prove even exists? He is very well defined as far as I'm concern. You can't see it, your life. The fact that I'm breathing air, and I'm alive is more than enough proof for me of His existance. You can't see it, your life. |
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Topic:
a question for the faithful
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As far as I'm concerned it's all or nothing. it seems that before leaving christianity you were brought up within a fundie context that you have not been able to freed yourself of. |
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Topic:
futile statements
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Yes that's it dedicate yourself to me because i am a much more realistic god than any of the other fictional mythological creations that are being called religion. religion is carefully worded to entice the weak minded and troubled people so that they may be sucked into a never ending loop of slavery and never be allowed to realize the true meaning of life, it is religion that is destroying our world and creating ignorance among people. Hurricanes are a natural event occurring as a result of certain weather conditions evident on many different planets they are not the result of any diety whatsoever this has been proven and until one of you nutcases comes up with a better explanation than "its the all mighty gods work" which is the same as saying "its magic" perhaps you need to go to las vegas and learn what magic actually is. I don't know what is worst arrogance or ignorance? |
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a question for the faithful
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It is through the questions and realizations of the pain and suffering of the world the lack of women's importance in the bible where I suffer from the inability to believe in Christianity. First, why should be God's fault the misinterpretations men have in the Bible. We start with the tale of Adam and Eve in Genesis, when the Genesis was written the male supremacy was already there. Is the christians fault? I don't think so. Second, since the male supremacy was already there when the Genesis started getting together men made God a male. God cannot be either a male or a female because He is a pure spirit. Sexual differences just come into being when matter is present. Now since we are on image and likeness of God, that means both man and woman have one portion of the whole nature of God. Thus, we can define God as father and mother at the same time. then again, is God at fault for the man's misinterpretations? I don't think so. Now what is christianity's fault is not to realize the value of women on an earlier time. Do I have to judge christianity or even worst God for mistakes committed by man way before the Genesis was written? I'd be a fool if I do so. (Please I'm talking about myself here. Don't get offended.) |
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Topic:
Accents...
Edited by
TheLonelyWalker
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Tue 08/26/08 03:04 PM
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Topic:
Accents...
Edited by
TheLonelyWalker
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Tue 08/26/08 03:04 PM
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Topic:
Accents...
Edited by
TheLonelyWalker
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Tue 08/26/08 03:04 PM
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oops
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Topic:
Accents...
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accents? que cosa dijo???????? Los acentos hispanos SOMOS POCOS PERO LOCOS BRO!!!!!! |
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Topic:
The Dangers of Obedience
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Furthermore, if there is any danger in obedience to a all loving God like my Heavenly Daddy. It's just for those who can't comprehend His real nature. That does not mean they are good or bad. Just shortsighted, that's all. And I feel this philosphy is shortsighted so now what? I respect your position. what else can i do? each one to his/her own. |
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Accents...
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accents?
que cosa dijo???????? |
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Topic:
The Dangers of Obedience
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Furthermore, if there is any danger in obedience to a all loving God like my Heavenly Daddy. It's just for those who can't comprehend His real nature. That does not mean they are good or bad. Just shortsighted, that's all.
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Topic:
The Dangers of Obedience
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I agree. Matthew 10:16 King James Bible "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." When I first got converted I had it backwards. Cause I was wise as a dove and harmless as a serpent. And what happened was I was the wolf in the midst of sheep. A friendly Atheist helped me with it though when she told me that there no absolutes. I really miss Alex. I miss the sweet Alex. |
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Topic:
The Dangers of Obedience
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then I wonder why the world is so chaotic.
The examples cited in this thread are the extremes. Obviously with the clear intention to diminish religious belief systems. Such strategy lacks of validity since uses the extremes within the data instead of the average. This strategy wery well used in biased statistical analysis in order to render results which follows an agenda instead of informing. All this ridicule attempts to attack something for the simple fact that is not understood. It is like when a person is drowning, and he/she so desperately moves his/her arms trying to keep his/her head above the water when he/she knows he/she is already lost. |
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flavius josephus didn't even speak, read, or write aramaic.
gosh, the further I research the more ridicule this theory becomes. |
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Topic:
futile statements
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A creator is responsible for what it creates. are you really a mathmatician and kind of a scientific? that is fifth grade logics? |
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very funny and amusing. accepting such theory is the same as to say that all reality is just a projection of light within some sort of hollographic matrix. how could the romans have invented something which they fought so intensely for so many centuries. come on now!!! just one question: what are the qualifications of the person who wrote all this? Its funny how you will immediately question the author of this book, who questions the author of the New Testament, and yet you accept the New Testament without ever having questioned who the author might be or what their qualifications are or were. JB 2000 years of solidity are more than enough qualifications for me. The secularization of the 19th century and on is what have brought all these puerile ideas. |
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Edited by
TheLonelyWalker
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Wed 08/20/08 10:35 AM
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further how can the romans could have invented the N.T. when the first Gospel (St. Mark) was written in aramaic. A language which the romans did not speak.
Professor Bauer only valid assertion is that most of christian custom have a lot of similarities with roman and greek culture. duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's quite obvious since the jews rejected Jesus Christ and the Apostles what was the obvious reaction of the Apostles. Well, reach the pagans. Romans and greeks. Ergo, they needed to adapt the teachings and practices to culture where they were preaching in order to reach the population. That is what the Church has been doing for 2000 years. Evolving and adapting according to the socio-cultural characteristics of the intended audiences. It would be very stupid to think that the Church will have the same practices in USA than in South America. Or with philipinnes and native american christians. The Church have to utilize the richness of the place and culture where it is. That is what happened at the beginning, and that is what is happening nowadays. Professor Bauer theories are just that, theories. If there is any factual basis to support his conjectures, please provide them. TLW |
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