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Sat 04/21/07 02:13 PM
So, from a pragmatic sence- we win. How do we NOT win? There's nothing
an animal can do that we cannot. And plenty that we can do that no
animal can. Of course, there's plenty of things neither of us can do.
But the proving point was "superior"- not "perfect". 1 is superior to 2.
And 3 to 2. But there's an infinity out there that dwarfs them (and us)
all.

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Sat 04/21/07 02:11 PM
No, I've been given statements that are irrelevant.

Some stuff about all things being subjective- fun philosophy, and if
true, it could be a point. But humans cannot live in subjectivity.
Things lose any valuable meaning subjectively. The fact that you're
expecting me to defend myself proves you're not in pure subjectivity. In
a subjective world, there's no reason for anyone to defend anything.

As to the environmental stuff. Ecosystems. Biological differences. Etc.
I pointed out our technology. Which, as it's ours, counts as part of us
and gives us advantages far beyond any life-form.

The spiritual front was the easiest, of course. We have souls- true
divine spirits- animals don't. Unless you don't believe in that stuff,
in which case, it's a moot point. See arguments one and two.



Sorry, I have to play the entire field. That requires some jumping
around.

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Sat 04/21/07 02:01 PM
Give me a question worth answering. Give me a reason we're NOT
superior. And mentioning biospheres is a limited approach. We can move
to other biospheres. Most species can't do that.

I've given plenty of examples of how we're top dog in this little
corner of the universe. Beholden of course to things like Gamma Wave
Bursts and the odd planet-killing solar flair.

But we're not asking if humans are superior to STARS here. We'd lose
that contest. We're asking about the rest of the organisms on our happy
little rock. In which case, we win. Actually, she just said organisms.
And I stated that if we run into extraterrestrial beings- or create or
own sapient genetic experiments- then we'll have competition. But for
the time being, humans are winning.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:54 PM
What I don't get is how ALCOHOL could be legal. But marijuana is not.
Booze is more addictive by far. It causes much greater innebriation. And
it can actually kill. It's almost impossible to die from smoking pot
alone.

Granted, some people are allergic to the chemicals in marijuana (not
the drug, just the herb properties). So smoking pot in any public place
should be illegal. Or driving under the influence. Or any of the many
other issues at hand. But other than that, I don't see the inherent
issue.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:48 PM
Although, if we really work at it- we might be able to get global
warming to build a NATURAL waterway through central america.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:46 PM
You do have a point there. So. Shall we ignore bear and wait until a
credible conspiracy theorist wanders along to play? Or until he actually
does as a debater is supposed to do and address his opponents' issues.
Whichever happens first.


Wait a second. I know someone else who loved to ignore his critics and
spout incomprehensible mumbo jumbo and recycled rhetoric! President
Bush. Remember how he used to love to skip over media questions that
made him uncomfortable?

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Sat 04/21/07 01:41 PM
That much is certainly true enough. But we'd have to go back to....
huh.... who WAS in office back then....

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Sat 04/21/07 01:40 PM
On that, you may have a point. But don't forget our immune system kills
quite a few trillion of them (more, in fact, than will be produced upon
our deaths) during our life.


Plus, the food chain only applies to predation or parasitism. It
doesn't count if something else killed the food before you got to it.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:31 PM
I know it's not quite on the subject. But will the other people who
post in this thread kindly back me (or him, if you wish) on this one?
Whichever of us is wrong, it'd be nice for him to know that he might fix
said personality disorder.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:26 PM
I already did. Go back up about half a page.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:24 PM
First of all- I don't like bush any better than you do. But I'm not
going to sit around making stuff up in order to make him look bad. I
rather think he does a good enough job of that without my help.


And second- you're still not addressing our points in any manner that
could be considered remotely relevant. You have no defences, no ideas of
your own, and thus you resort to sarcasm and insults.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:22 PM
And yet, you're the one who started all this crap. Seriously. Grow up.
Act your age. Act HALF your age. Act MY age, if you like.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:20 PM
What part of "post your own freakin' ideas" are you missing?

What part of "respond to our points if you want us to respond to yours"
isn't getting through to you?

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Sat 04/21/07 01:17 PM
Our ecosystem, whichever we're in, doesn't have any bearing at all on
our relative position in the universe. Be it spiritual or pragmatic.

And I'd like any evidence at all. We have a superior military to any
other nation on earth- we haven't destroyed all that many of them. Just
because something is better, does not mean other, lesser, things cannot
co-exist with it.

In the wild, sharks are faster, stronger, more powerful and more
effective in every way to the rhemora. And yet they get along quite well
with one another.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:12 PM
Wow. You're really good at this "ignoring the obvious truth" stuff,
aren't you?

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Sat 04/21/07 01:11 PM
And you've not responded to much of anything we've said. Including the
statement "prove any of it".


I've shown you more telling evidence than you've shown me. I've
addressed much of yours. You've addressed NONE of mine.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:09 PM
I might like the "dog" reference. Loyal, intelligent, strong, beloved
by people.

Although a wolf would be more my style. Proud, aloof, no one's pet.


One thing I don't share with the canines is a pack mentality. I am
*MINE*- no one and nothing else's. Except, of course, afformentioned
Creator. And since He or She or whatever hasn't seen fit to give me any
direct instructions, that's a moot point.

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Sat 04/21/07 01:04 PM
Well, the "we can see that in your posts" comment was obvious sarcasm.

And the "if the government says it's true" line.

And the "bow to who you bow to" was condescension at it's finest. And
most blatant.



Sarcasm is mockery, and you don't mock things you think are right.

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Sat 04/21/07 12:59 PM
Oh. I'm not saying (all of them) are lying. But the site's creators
could be. And they can make up any scenario they like.

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Sat 04/21/07 12:57 PM
Ok, so, in this thread it's just sarcasm and dismissals of established
points without good reason. But I was refering to your general behavior
towards me.

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