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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time But on the flip side of that, no form of life (human vs. animal) probably perceives time the same way. Of course there's no way to actually prove that (unless you could read the minds of animals, plants, et all.) but that's my theory.  see my post on top of yours. I don't think "time" can be measured. Mankind put labels on time frames for clarification and to make things easier
Well obviously I missed that. 
shame on you squirrel man
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December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. In awe. I've heard of us going into a new ice age before, but I seriously have my doubts that it will be in any of our lifetimes. Wow. 
I'm sorry, are you disagreeing with my post or in "awe" of it haha. Is it that unbelievable, we face the axis switching on earth at this current point in time. 2012 is when it is thought that this axis will fall off, thus forceing us into the sun either bringing a new ice age (side not faceing the sun) or an internal melt-down (side faceing the sun). Temperature either rises or falls dependant on which side you inhabit at the time this does occur. |
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I believe as long as there is life...then time exists. otherwise nothing to appreciate time But on the flip side of that, no form of life (human vs. animal) probably perceives time the same way. Of course there's no way to actually prove that (unless you could read the minds of animals, plants, et all.) but that's my theory. No human perceives time the same way. Each is said to have their own space time field. This is true. But unlike animals (again in theory) each human relates time to a common frame of reference. (i.e. clock or calendar) |
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Are you thinking that an ice age might happen before December 21 2012?
If the earth continues to tilt, the north pole will probably melt. I think things could get pretty rough. I hope it's not an ice age. I don't like cold. |
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December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. In awe. I've heard of us going into a new ice age before, but I seriously have my doubts that it will be in any of our lifetimes. Wow.
I'm sorry, are you disagreeing with my post or in "awe" of it haha. Is it that unbelievable, we face the axis switching on earth at this current point in time. 2012 is when it is thought that this axis will fall off, thus forceing us into the sun either bringing a new ice age (side not faceing the sun) or an internal melt-down (side faceing the sun). Temperature either rises or falls dependant on which side you inhabit at the time this does occur. Given that the weatherman has trouble predicting what will happen in 12 hours I hold it highly suspect. How is that? 
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ok i need my sunbed back
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I'm lost now. weren't we saying about time frames being irrelevant and time doesn't have a label?
so who's to say that date or any dates of the end of the earth will be on that date? |
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December 21st, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. However this is a truly extreme speculation, the Mayan's may have not been able to tell what happens after that end of the baktun (which will be 13.0.0.0) also take into consideration that the Mayan calendar has been spot on with the moon and sun rotations this adds speculation to the end of the calendar. However, I do not truly believe that the world will end at the end of the 12th baktun but rather before due to the magnetic field generated from the sun to earth thus pulling the earth off it's magnetic field and sending us into a new ice age. In awe. I've heard of us going into a new ice age before, but I seriously have my doubts that it will be in any of our lifetimes. Wow.
I'm sorry, are you disagreeing with my post or in "awe" of it haha. Is it that unbelievable, we face the axis switching on earth at this current point in time. 2012 is when it is thought that this axis will fall off, thus forceing us into the sun either bringing a new ice age (side not faceing the sun) or an internal melt-down (side faceing the sun). Temperature either rises or falls dependant on which side you inhabit at the time this does occur. Given that the weatherman has trouble predicting what will happen in 12 hours I hold it highly suspect. How is that?
Considering a weatherman studies a map for maybe a week versus a ecologist that studies it for decades I think the difference is quite clear...perhaps the reason the weathermen can't predict weather correctly but ecologists have nailed severe weather within a month time period. |
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Exactly. And I highly doubt it will be due to another ice age. If anything it will be due to a nuclear winter as the bible (I know I know) refers to Armageddon as the Earth being engulfed by fire.
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I'm lost now. weren't we saying about time frames being irrelevant and time doesn't have a label? so who's to say that date or any dates of the end of the earth will be on that date? Time is irrelevant by the end of man, nothing to do with the date and/or time the end comes (if it does indeed come). This topic was started to explore people's thoughts on the end of time, not to discuss the relativity of time to that fact. |
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Exactly. And I highly doubt it will be due to another ice age. If anything it will be due to a nuclear winter as the bible (I know I know) refers to Armageddon as the Earth being engulfed by fire. Or to be precise, some sort of man made weapon used against man to destroy man. (Maybe not necessarily a nuclear device, though that is the current doomsday threat.) |
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Exactly. And I highly doubt it will be due to another ice age. If anything it will be due to a nuclear winter as the bible (I know I know) refers to Armageddon as the Earth being engulfed by fire. I'm not a follower of the bible nor do I claim to be apart of any religion, however I do find this to be interesting...Earth being engulfed in fire? Perhaps the one side closest to the sun? |
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Fear-
How are you a nihilist if you're continually stating beliefs about time and the end of the world as your own? |
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I'm lost now. weren't we saying about time frames being irrelevant and time doesn't have a label? so who's to say that date or any dates of the end of the earth will be on that date? Time is irrelevant by the end of man, nothing to do with the date and/or time the end comes (if it does indeed come). This topic was started to explore people's thoughts on the end of time, not to discuss the relativity of time to that fact. I was commenting about the dates that people say will be the end of time. if time does end then the dates are really irrelevant. it was a question because I was really lost about the posts recently and wanted clarification. wasn't meant to debate |
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Edited by
wiley
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Tue 03/18/08 01:33 AM
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Exactly. And I highly doubt it will be due to another ice age. If anything it will be due to a nuclear winter as the bible (I know I know) refers to Armageddon as the Earth being engulfed by fire. I'm not a follower of the bible nor do I claim to be apart of any religion, however I do find this to be interesting...Earth being engulfed in fire? Perhaps the one side closest to the sun? That could be a possibility. But the book of Revelations refers to two great armies massing together and fighting the battle of all battles prior to the Earth being consumed by fire. Which leads credence to a war/nuclear device theory. "And the meek shall inherit the Earth" takes on a whole new meaning after reading that.
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Fear- How are you a nihilist if you're continually stating beliefs about time and the end of the world as your own? When did I state them as my own, much less when did I state a time the world will end? I'm theorizing the possibility not putting a "matter of fact" time down on it. |
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I'm lost now. weren't we saying about time frames being irrelevant and time doesn't have a label? so who's to say that date or any dates of the end of the earth will be on that date? Time is irrelevant by the end of man, nothing to do with the date and/or time the end comes (if it does indeed come). This topic was started to explore people's thoughts on the end of time, not to discuss the relativity of time to that fact. I was commenting about the dates that people say will be the end of time. if time does end then the dates are really irrelevant. it was a question because I was really lost about the posts recently and wanted clarification. wasn't meant to debate Wasn't debating, sorry if you got that feeling. Was just explaining my reasoning behind starting the topic and takeing it as far as it has gone. |
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I'm lost now. weren't we saying about time frames being irrelevant and time doesn't have a label? so who's to say that date or any dates of the end of the earth will be on that date? Time is irrelevant by the end of man, nothing to do with the date and/or time the end comes (if it does indeed come). This topic was started to explore people's thoughts on the end of time, not to discuss the relativity of time to that fact. I was commenting about the dates that people say will be the end of time. if time does end then the dates are really irrelevant. it was a question because I was really lost about the posts recently and wanted clarification. wasn't meant to debate Wasn't debating, sorry if you got that feeling. Was just explaining my reasoning behind starting the topic and takeing it as far as it has gone. I didn't think you implied that hun...sorry I was just asking because I tend to get lost sometimes. I love a good debate and seeing other beliefs (not judgements lol) |
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Fear- How are you a nihilist if you're continually stating beliefs about time and the end of the world as your own? When did I state them as my own, much less when did I state a time the world will end? I'm theorizing the possibility not putting a "matter of fact" time down on it. You seemed to be very sure that time is essentially dependent on change and motion. But if no beliefs can be justified, why believe in anything? |
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why does there have to be proof on beliefs?
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