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missy51970
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Im not one to easily forgive...anything
I can honestly say (and I dont feel bad about it) that it isnt even within my range of thinking or being to forgive the man that did such horrid things to my daughter.. No one can say TRUTHFULLY how they would react or wouldnt react unless theyve been put in the position. I would never say to anyone try to imagine it happening to your son or daughter, because i can tell you you CAN NOT imagine how you would feel.. CAN NOT.. IMPOSSIBLE... JMO |
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^]
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] I agree. |
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Edited by
missy51970
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Mon 03/17/08 11:42 AM
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] I dont think that th way I feel makes me anywhere close to being as bad as a CHILD RAPIST!! |
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I agree with the OP. Save the animals, use these people instead. It's a way for them to repay their debt to society.
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I disagree. As much as we might dislike what these people have done, (or allegedly done) we cannot take away their human rights. Only their freedom. To say that one human life is worth less than another is judgmental. To say the actions of a human are vile... is appropriate. People are not always what they do. Bad people do bad things, and sometimes good people do bad things. People are not defined solely by their actions. I disagree here. Murderer's, child molestor's and rapists are very much defined by their actions. The life of an innocent child or any other victim is worth much more than the life of any of the above. jmo I believe it should be "an eye for a eye". Sounds archaic, but our prison system is anyting but punishment. Inmates are fed, provided clothing, watch tv, work out, and my personal favorite get an education while in there. This is punishment for murder or rape? How can they not be judged by their actions. If you do inhumane things then you shouldn't have any human rights. I disagree, good people don't commit murder and rape. Have you ever been to prison? If there are no priviledges to take away how do expect to keep inmates in line? As I said a while back, prison is hell & running a prison is a science;^] |
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] I dont think that th way I feel makes me anywhere close to being as bad as a CHILD RAPIST!! Veangance is veangance, and yes I am one who does in fact understand the situation;^] |
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] Then let your tax dollars pay for their trials, incarceration and eventual execution (20 yrs later). I for one don't want mine paying for it, and I'm sure the families of the victims don't want their money used for it either. |
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] I dont think that th way I feel makes me anywhere close to being as bad as a CHILD RAPIST!! Veangance is veangance, and yes I am one who does in fact understand the situation;^] Guess they should have thought about vengeance before they rape children or murder them or molest them.. |
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listen guys...in theory, this works... but our justice system only works in theory... what human rights do you have when you stoop to be in-humane? what would you do if your child were raped? would you be so willing to forgive? tell me someone who can do a thing like that deserves any rights....
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And I can assure you , you putting me in the same category as a child rapist show exactly how good your judgement is...
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] I dont think that th way I feel makes me anywhere close to being as bad as a CHILD RAPIST!! Veangance is veangance, and yes I am one who does in fact understand the situation;^] Guess they should have thought about vengeance before they rape children or murder them or molest them.. |
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Edited by
Turtlepoet78
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Mon 03/17/08 11:53 AM
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] Then let your tax dollars pay for their trials, incarceration and eventual execution (20 yrs later). I for one don't want mine paying for it, and I'm sure the families of the victims don't want their money used for it either. I'm happy to pay taxes for the prison system. As for what these people deserve, as according to the consitution, is a fair trial, life, and humane treatment. Once we cross that line from justice to veangance we have become likewise, criminals of a sickening extent. They're in jail they can't hurt the innocent, that's justice, no more no less;^] |
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I am not surprised that so many of you think you have the right and ability to judge others. I think I'm only surprised that you admit it so readily. I do not have the right to judge anyone. Nor am I better than anyone... regardless of what they did. That is just me.
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And I can assure you , you putting me in the same category as a child rapist show exactly how good your judgement is... I never said you, way to twist my words. I said to act on those feelings is just as bad. Don't think I haven't been there, but these American ideals of fair treatment are in place for a good reason;^] |
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I would have to disagree with the topic's main post.
*IF* you are a murderer - society should take your life. You took one from society. There should be the initial trial, an automatic review if the death penalty is invoked, and a third final review to make sure the first two did their jobs as they should. At the end of that third check - the sentence is carried out. This shouldn't take 10 to 20 years. *IF* you are a rapist - society should determine your consequence. Violent one probably deserve to die, other than that..jury of peers. *IF* you are a serial child molester - my personal feelings is that you prey on weaker humans - and should probably be put to death. *IF* you commit a crime that removes the rights of life or liberty from another person in society - society should judge you and sentence you to a consequence - not play out the sense of revenge. As a society - we should use the legal system to try and determine the truth of each person. Unfortunately - there is no way presently to be 100% sure each and every time - so we must do the best we can to *as a society* dispassionately judge those accused and make the best choice we can. FearAnd - I agree - there are mistakes made, and since humans will always judge humans (and should, since we alone have the capacity for reason and compassion) it will likely always be flawed. But that does not mean we should halt all processes of removing life and liberty from those who would do so to others. The other option - is anarchy. While some would prefer this, I doubt most would find it a healthy society. |
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No one can say TRUTHFULLY how they would react or wouldnt react unless theyve been put in the position. I would never say to anyone try to imagine it happening to your son or daughter, because i can tell you you CAN NOT imagine how you would feel.. CAN NOT.. IMPOSSIBLE... I am very sorry your Daughter has had that experience..As I am for any other child who has suffered at the hands of another. Yet.. somehow you seem to have put yourself on a pillar over her tragedy. How do you know you are not speaking to people who have not lost a loved one, or had a crime perpetrated on their child, member of their family, or themselves? Just because some do not agree? Just because some see it differently then you do? I'm sorry to say.. That is extremely presumptuous. |
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It's shocking how many people would do away with the bill of rights. Getting them off the streets is one thing, but to deny them their right to life and humane treatment would make us just as bad as them;^] Then let your tax dollars pay for their trials, incarceration and eventual execution (20 yrs later). I for one don't want mine paying for it, and I'm sure the families of the victims don't want their money used for it either. I'm happy to pay taxes for the prison system. As for what these people deserve, as according to the consitution, is a fair trial, life, and humane treatment. Once we cross that line between from justice to veangance we have become likewise, criminals of a sickening extend. They're in jail they can't hurt the innocent, that's justice, no more no less;^] |
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I am not surprised that so many of you think you have the right and ability to judge others. I think I'm only surprised that you admit it so readily. I do not have the right to judge anyone. Nor am I better than anyone... regardless of what they did. That is just me. I hope for your sake your never in a position where the judgement you say you dont have for other people comes out to rear its ugly head.. I never thought of myself as the kind of person to judge other people either. Just like you said in a post before good people do bad things sometimes and bad people do bad things... Your right on so many different levels when you say we have no right to judge. But it isnt so easy when it hits home directly in front of you .. when its your child. Lillith I think youre an intelligent woman, I read your profile you work for th CJ system so you deal with this stuff on a regular basis I think your opinion is valid just not the same as mine. I have my bachelors in CJ and Im 6 months from my Masters, I know it isnt my right to judge people,but it isnt easy to tell your 10 year old daughter "honey im sorry that man raped you, took your innocence,made it so that your still at 17 years old afraid of the dark, you now have an inheriat mistrust in men, but you really need to forgive him, and dont judge him" as a mother i could never do that.. i hope he rots in prison, dies there and spends eternity in hell |
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No one can say TRUTHFULLY how they would react or wouldnt react unless theyve been put in the position. I would never say to anyone try to imagine it happening to your son or daughter, because i can tell you you CAN NOT imagine how you would feel.. CAN NOT.. IMPOSSIBLE... I am very sorry your Daughter has had that experience..As I am for any other child who has suffered at the hands of another. Yet.. somehow you seem to have put yourself on a pillar over her tragedy. How do you know you are not speaking to people who have not lost a loved one, or had a crime perpetrated on their child, member of their family, or themselves? Just because some do not agree? Just because some see it differently then you do? I'm sorry to say.. That is extremely presumptuous. Youre right it was presumtuous.. read mylast post before this one.. thanks for pointing it out |
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